1:
electricity is the movement of electrons, towards "positive magnetism".
(you would be appalled at how rarely this basic yet critical fact is considered.)
2:
electrons want to move away from the negative steel pyramid frame,
towards the positive/diamagnetic copper/saltwater/graphite, in the middle of the pyramid.
the above, is what generates MOST of the pyramids electricity/electron-movement.
but the above by itself, is NOT enough to start or maintain the electricity/electron-movement.
3:
the steel screw, is POSITIVELY MAGNETIZED, by the positive half of the magnet.
this causes electrons to move FROM the steel frame,
through the negative half of the capacitor,
through the device being powered,
through the positive half of the capacitor,
and TOWARDS the positively magnetized steel screw.
the above is required, for the polarities to be maintained.
so that electricity/electrons, will move.
4:
electrons build up, on the positively magnetized steel screw.
once the screw gains enough negative electrons, the screw become neutrally charged.
and the electrons overflow from the screw, like water overflowing from a cup.
the overflowing electrons CANNOT move backwards,
through the the capacitor and into the steel pyramid frame.
because the capacitor metal has little positivity, and the steel pyramid frame is VERY negative.
and electrons want to move AWAY from negative magnetism.
the overflowing electrons have no choice but to move towards the positive/diamagnetic copper/saltwater/graphite, in the middle of the pyramid.
because the positivity of those 3 things attract the overflowing electrons.
and because those 3 things have room to store the overflowing electrons.
5:
from the copper/saltwater/graphite, the electrons most likely flow into the steel pyramid frame
(into the pyramid peak. which is on the opposite side of the pyramid, from where the negative half of the capacitor is connected).
because by now, the steel pyramid frame has lost so many electrons,
that the electrons find the its positivity attractive.
the electrons most likely travel along a physical path, to do this.
but it is possible that the electrons travel through the air, to get back to the steel pyramid.
thomas thrawager claimed to not know how his pyramid worked. so it wouldn't be surprising if his pyramid had an air-circuit, and he didn't know it.
if there is an air circuit between the positive middle and the steel pyramid, it is likely from the copper loop, or the copper plates hanging in the middle of the loop.
6:
it is MOST LIKELY, that the steel screw is ONLY being positively charged.
that ONLY the positive half of the magnet, is influencing it.
but it is possible that the magnet was a horse shoe magnet.
and that the steel screw was being charged with BOTH polarities.
if this is true, than my above explanations are still true.
electrons will still flow from the steel pyramid frame, through both halves of the capacitor, through the steel screw, towards the copper/saltwater/graphite, and most likely back into the steel pyramid frame.
7:
there is the strong possibility that electrons are coming from and moving through the hydrogen/saltwater, which sits in the copper loop.
if the saltwater is being polarized, than that would definitely contribute to the overall flow of electricity/electrons.
but i cannot be sure how thomas thrawager electrically connected the saltwater to the rest of the system.
8:
from his poor design choices,
it was obvious that thomas thrawager was no master of construction.
from his inability to communicate critical concepts,
it was obvious that he was fixated on how things work,
and not why things work.
thomas thrawager had the kind of mind, that was orbiting a theoretical planet,
in some other solar system.
similar to that whacky college professor you might remember having a class with.
that kind of mind has produced never before seen inventions.
but you must NOT assume that every detail in the invention,
has an important purpose.
because that type of mind is very inefficient, and often badly broken in places.
so you must expect its invention to be very inefficient, and badly broken in places.
you must EDUCATED-GUESS what that mind was thinking, better than that mind KNEW what it was thinking.
if you want to replicate its poorly explained invention.
9:
i am not a person who focuses on "how" devices are built.
i am a person who focused on the concepts of "why" devices work.
i rarely ever build devices.
because to me, the concepts that make a device work, ARE the device.
if i already have the device's concepts in my memory, than i HAVE the device.
so why would i need to have a limited, poorly manifested physical expression of the device ?
when i already have the only part of the device that matters, in my mind ?
i have been criticized and rejected by persons on these forums,
because i focus on "the concepts behind devices",
instead of "building the devices".
yet my fixation on the concepts behind devices,
is the only reason why i was able to produce this post !
Quoteelectricity is the movement of electrons
, towards "positive magnetism".
Electricity is more complex than that. There is a long list of various conductors that have both electrons and protons flowing as well as ions. A battery is one of them along with the human body. Plus there is no such thing as positive magnetism. Magnetism runs clockwise or counter clockwise. Its neither positive or negative.
I understand where nittun is coming from.
Quote from: lltfdaniel1 on July 07, 2009, 06:54:21 AM
I understand where nittun is coming from.
Ah, but where is nitinnun
going, that is the question.
me and the progress of my research, are inching right along.
and the final goal keeps getting more visible.
THAT is where i am going.
and no amount of stinging ingratitude can stop me.
don't worry. when i get around to implementing my new knowledge, i'll share it.
for free.
and without thanks.
no matter how many random people have an unwarrented gripe-wrench to throw into my motivational drives sensitive gears and glass vacuum tubes.
hi all
nitinun i can see the reason for your thought on these things and there is allot of good information you have given but i cannot even imagine not doing certain tests of theory or just to confirm an idea.
in electrostatics the only state for repultion of energy is having the same value all other states form an attraction after much testing i am not in doubt of this at all so there are some things missing in your theory.
there is no substitute for doing it has a truly unique quality!
you cannot progress without taking a step back this truly pertains to energy and it's assumptions.
Martin
when you refer to repulsive magnetic flow are you refering to michel faradays currents in the same direction tend to gather and when flowing opposite tent to scatter or repell ?
if so then there is room for discussion of magnetics as flow which is derived from energy in motion not static kinetic but dinamic.
martin
electrons flow away from negative, counter-clockwise spinning magnetism,
and towards positive, clockwise spinning magnetism.
BECAUSE electrons generate counter-clockwise spinning magnetism. and because the electrons CCW magnetism, is repelled by other CCW magnetism.
and the electron is repelled from another source of counter-clockwise magnetism, along with t
paramagnetic/ferromagnetic atoms such as iron, have more electrons that protons.
so they generate more counter-clockwise magnetism, than clockwise magnetism.
so they repel electrons away harder, than they attract electrons.
diamagnetic atoms such as hydrogen, carbon, copper, silver, gold, and bismuth, have more protons than electrons.
so they generate more clockwise magnetism, than counter-clockwise magnetism.
so they attract electrons harder, than they repel electrons.
the pyramids 45 degree angles, abuse the 8 points,
at which clockwise and CCW magnetism are spat out, from all atoms.
the angles on the pyramid, force counter-clockwise magnetism to build up, around the base of the pyramid.
and force clockwise magnetism to build up, in the center and peak of the pyramid.
this causes electrons to be repelled from the pyramids base, and attracted towards the center/peak.
this electron movement, is electricity.
the hardest part of harvesting electricity, is providing freed electrons with polarized water, and providing physical metals/wire for the electrons to move through.
i have made great improvements in my understanding of pyramid physics, since someone showed me some of thomas thrawagers work, which i did not know existed until yesterday.
if there had been less rambling on the forums, and more prompting of thrawagers materials, than i might have had my new insights years ago.
instead of just now, when the world is worse off than it has ever been.
prompt the known information loudly and clearly, where everyone can see the information,
at all times.
THEN clog the forums, with what you think!
Quote from: TinselKoala on July 07, 2009, 11:35:58 AM
Ah, but where is nitinnun going, that is the question.
To be fair he does have a good idea..he just describes it in his own way and it makes it a breeze for someone like me to understand.
I understand that ions and static and the like interact with stuff like me..trees and the like.
Peter grandics proved that he got dc electric from static electric via the pyramid.
Other strange effects like accelerated growth of plants..strengthing of the immune system which from some russian result makes it much more likely for you to ward of infections and viruses and the like.
Some guy on this forum saying he knew of a us veteran who basicly confirms this.
Where he is going to well...hmm...being open minded with the obvious and being child like.
you think i'm incomprehensible ?
you think i'm childlike ?
it is most of humanity, who make everything harder, than it needs to be !
it is most of humanity, who wastes its time on dishonest, narrow minded bull****.
mankind lies when it does not have too.
mankind wastes 4 hours when it only needed to waste 1 hour.
mankind is a hampster running on a wheel. and the wheel isn't even attached to a generator.
if mankind did only what was needed, if mankind avoided dishonesty,
than mankind would have 20 or more hours of free time each day.
which could be spent on doing something useful.
the truth is very simple.
the details needed for anti-gravity, electricity from pyramids, and similar things, can be expressed in a handful of words.
you could train a monkey to build such devices, by teaching the monkey how to execute only the REQUIRED details.
to discover the truth (and those devices), you need simplicity !
you need to be capable of making things as simple as possible, without losing any of the importance.
only THEN, will you discover anything.
let alone understand anything.
because the more excess details your mind adds to the world,
the less you will understand the world !
too much complexity, will hide the truth.
if you make things too complicated, than you will NOT see the truth.
and making things more complicated than they need to be, is what most of the people on this forum do !
your messages have unnecessary complexity.
your concepts have unnecessary complexity.
your devices have even more unnecessary complexity, than your messages and concepts.
you overcomplexify simple things, and you oversimplify complex things.
and until you learn to correct it, you will wallow in a cesspit of low technology ignorance.
there are "aliens".
most of them look and feel like like we do. but they are there.
but none of them want to deal with humanity.
because everything that humanity touches, turns to diseased ****.
because humanity creates too much excess complexity, to understand the truth !
and it would cause nothing but problems and misery for the aliens, if they interacted with us.
........i post things on this forum, because i want my insights to help this wretched planet.
because i DO see part of the truth. from my perspective.
and what i see, shines with potential. like the sun.
shining potential, for saving mankind from extinction.
but if none of you can understand the potential i see, than i might be wasting my time sharing my precious insights with you.
because if you are going to demotivate me,
while not being able to understand what i give you,
than i cannot help you.
yet you are being a burden to my progress, and to my well being.
i do not think that your views about energy are wrong as have had them and held them some time back but have grown to see so much more bearden is becoming outdated as well.
the veiw you have will only carry you so far and then can become an obsticle to overcome.
if the currents allone drive the whole thing then how does voltage persist.
the paradox is almost always the door to some new understanding.
i eagerly await your responce to this query.
Martin
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the whole point of the pyramid, is polarizing water.
so you can steal electrons from the negative half of the water.
to use as electricity.
the builders of the pyramid, used 3 or 4 different sources, to polarize the water.
they polarized the water as much as possible.
to increase the voltage/amperage potential.
because the more polarized the water was, the harder the electrons wanted to leave the negative half of the water, to enter the positive half of the water.
if you connect a capacitor to a polarized body of water,
the electrons will fill up the negative half of the capacitor.
trying to reach the positive half of the capacitor.
then you disconnect the capacitor. and you have stolen all the waters spare electrons !
then you get some more neutrally charged water, and steal its electrons too.
and mother nature will eventually restore the electrons, to the positive, electron-robbed water.
if you leave the positive water outside.
yes i would agree that water has a high dipole moment and loves a negative charge and when spun can creat large magnetic moments and can be used in a electrophorus state as a medium but the change of charge by removal of negative ions will cause a change of state possibly to a vapor and it could recollect charge and condense allowing for an open or controled flow path haveing a passive action.
the real trick will be the control of the currents.
Martin
i am not removing negative ions.
i am moving electrons through a wire.
the rest of the water, stays put.
the water is trapped inside a container.
any vapor, would instantly merge with the water.
as it has no where to escape.
there is a large enough body of water, that constant vaporization would not disrupt the flow of the magnetism/whatever.