Dear all,
Please see the photo below. Does anyone agree this is a 9v battery for powering the oscillators?
Regards,
Dave.
Hi Dave.
I would have to disagree that this is a 9V (coppertop) battery.
If you use your imagination (zoomed in or not) it could appear to be one in this particular capture, but it looks like the space between the two white areas is empty or has something else there, rather than the black portion of the battery. Check some other frames too.
Also, isn't this the video (one of the two in the garage) where the cameraman boldly asks SM "Is there one?", referring to the device using a battery? It would have been difficult for SM to have said "No" with it in such plain sight, wouldn't you agree?
.99
Hi Poynt,
I would have to agree with you now, I have checked some other frames and here we can see a clear gap between the two white objects, whatever they are.
Regards,
Dave.
There's a battery in there somewhere though, no matter how small.
.99
Dave,
I had also ruled out a visible battery in that location. While examining the clips for a battery I recognized the two white objects are very possible pulse transformers. The case size, shape and light coloring match devices I see every day. I also decided there were two small transistors (maybe FETs) between the two possible pulse transformers.
My best opinion only.
i just took apart a cealing fan motor today .....
wow
bet it is similar to this unit ....
ist
@CTG
If you are interested in the OPTU, here is a PDF I made that has alot of the internals of the OTPU.
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Steven%20Mark/otpu/a-docs/OTPU-DOC1.pdf
Oh, just remember there is no leg No. 4.
Also, behind the circuit board, there is a toroid coil just like the center toroid in the FTPU. You can only see it in one or two frames. lol
More stuff here;
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Steven%20Mark/otpu
It is not 100% but there is a very good start.
All the best. I have always liked your work.
wattsup
QuoteThere's a battery in there somewhere though, no matter how small
Agreed P99, I recall reading somewhere during my research that a battery was not needed in the device... 'other than to get it started'!
So I too believe that there would at least be a button cell somewhere on the unit to 'kick' start the oscillating cct. After that I guess a simple feedback loop would suffice and the battery would be switched out of cct.
Hi Wattsup,
Thank for the document, certainly you have studied these photos in some detail. I will check it out more when I get home from work.
Regards,
Dave.
Quote from: wattsup on June 27, 2009, 08:38:58 PM
@CTG
If you are interested in the OPTU, here is a PDF I made that has alot of the internals of the OTPU.
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Steven%20Mark/otpu/a-docs/OTPU-DOC1.pdf
Oh, just remember there is no leg No. 4.
Also, behind the circuit board, there is a toroid coil just like the center toroid in the FTPU. You can only see it in one or two frames. lol
More stuff here;
http://purco.qc.ca/ftp/Steven%20Mark/otpu
It is not 100% but there is a very good start.
All the best. I have always liked your work.
wattsup
yes is there batery but i dont know where is placed
@gts see carefull and tell me wher is conected the 4 bifilar red wires in the open tpu
is posible the this coil red is not coneckted nowhere
;D
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wrong topic .
@ CTG,
nice to see you again here, I use to think the object is a battery, now I'm not so sure.
One curious observation, SM points to that circuit board underneath and says "we have coil action here", or something to that effect. Why didn't he point and say we have a small battery here, but don't worry it's not to produce the power we see....etc..., Do you see what I'm getting at? In other words, if there was a battery there he would have felt compelled to explain what it's doing there in plain sight.
EM
NO!
He actually says "Important coil operation in here"
And the nine volt battery is in the lower left leg.
To charge the capacitors by photoflash/CFL backilight inverter or the like and to power the electronics LC's
M.
hi everyone good day
i think we can choose an option of source
a) 9v bat, button bat
B) a fully charge caps
c) a radiant source (tesla), solar
d) a magnet ??? :-\
What do you think is the best or the real thing that really works 8)
for me i will use anything as long as we can make it free energy, for that is what we all here isn't it?
God Bless
otits
Just as a reminder:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=937.msg7034#msg7034
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on August 06, 2009, 09:05:28 PM
hi everyone good day
i think we can choose an option of source
a) 9v bat, button bat
B) a fully charge caps
c) a radiant source (tesla), solar
d) a magnet ??? :-\
What do you think is the best or the real thing that really works 8)
for me i will use anything as long as we can make it free energy, for that is what we all here isn't it?
God Bless
otits
It is sources not source.
The units started up from one or two nine volt batterys.
Mr. Mark has talked about this.
Quote
the units in the demo videos did in fact have one or two 9V batteries to provide a separate controllable DC source for the solid state control circuit.
The other source is the earth's magnetic field.
Quote
we believed very strongly that the power we converted came from the earth's magnetic field. We believed that mainly because it is the obvious choice. However please consider that we had no way of confirming exactly where the power comes from. I am not sure how anyone would confirm that at this point. And it isn't really important at this juncture.
I have also found it to be the Earth's magnetic field.
Marco.
@tito..
if is radiant energy or <high frek elktromagnet fild>
then is no need that magnet WAY BEACOUSE THE MAGNET IS ABLE TO RESPON AT THAT SPEED OF RADIANT ENERGY
NOW I LIKE TO SAY WHAT YOU THING HOW BIG IS THE DIFERENT OUT POWER FROM RADIANT AND <STANDARD 50HZ ELKTROMAGNET MOTION FILD IN SOME CORE>
RADIANT ENERGY OR HIGH FREK ELKTROMAGNET IS MORE EFICIENTY THEN CLASICAL
BUT
BUT
BUT
I SEE HERE ALL TIME GOOD OSCILATORS AND CONTROL COILS AND SETUP OF DIFERENT STRUCTURES
THAT IS EVERTHING OK ,,,,,,PULSES IS GREATED BUT
I DONT SEE THE GOOD RECIVERS COILS TO TUNE THE IN TO THE RESONANCE WHIT CONTROL COILS
@FOR ALL
I HAVE LONG TIME AGO I HAVE MADE SOME AND I HAVE MADE GREATED RECIVER COILS AND I HAVE TUNE MY COLECTORS COILS SO CLOUSE TO THE CONTROL COIL AND THEN I HAVE SEE ..... :o
AND CONCLUTION OF THAT IS THIS <NO IS NOT IMPORTANT HOW IS BIG THE ELKTROMAGNET IS IMPORTANT SPEED
OF THAT VER VERY LOW ELKTROMAGNET FILD WHIT MY TEST OF INPUT ENERGY OF <2,5WATT> ;)
:
IF ENY BODY MAKE THIS AND THEN WHILL KNOW ALL ABOUT MY ....<F.S.H.F> WHIT 2,5 WATT
:)
i have built your coil mac ...
never ran it tho ... i dont need 2 ;)
i understand how it works ...
but thats real magic .... ;D 8)
l8r
i know you understand marco ...
and i cant wait to see more of your reserch ...
peace x2
W
lol, i haven't been here in a long while. Anyway, i'm confused. Do you guys think its purely the electromagnetic field or the ionosphere that is powering the TPU? I'm asking this because the ionosphere has a lot of power. I heard that one square meter of ionosphere can power 5 computers. Or is it some method of distorting the EM field to channel the ionosphere energy into the TPU? It would have been nice of SM to tell us if it didn't work at night as that would have been a strong indicator that the power was some how related to that. I guess you could say the ionosphere is like a giant solar panel?
@CTG Labs
Between the layers at the hind leg, I can see with 98% certainty that there is a capacitor there that is about 1" diameter by 1.5" long. That is why SM only had to put a solid wooden leg, then he bundled all the slack wire there and taped it over the top then to the bottom of the leg then back up around a few times.
Also, on the top part of the circuit board there is what I think is a vacuum tube encased in a metal box. It is about 3/4" square by 1.5" long. You can see it when you look at the circuit board at the lower disk location. The top half is seen at one angle and you can see the bottom half at another angle.
Don't forget also there is a toroid coil that is taped behind the circuit board. The toroid and circuit is the right leg support, then you have the left leg with the removable sheath (convenient for battery changes) and the push button on/off switch on the left coil located between the layers, then you have the hind leg with the capacitor between the layers.
Hope this helps your effort.
wattsup
Added:
Oh yeh, one of the white leads leaving the toroid is going directly to output.
Quote from: -[marco]- on August 07, 2009, 01:20:23 AM
It is sources not source.
The units started up from one or two nine volt batterys.
Mr. Mark has talked about this.
The other source is the earth's magnetic field.
I have also found it to be the Earth's magnetic field.
Marco.
Hi sir marco
Thank you for correction! ;)
Sir can you demonstrate how to use this Earth's magnetic field?
how was it made possible? ???
or if anybody can, please demonstrate it ;)
i'm really wondering how this thing is being use as a source. sorry i'm new to this method.
God bless
otits
@CTGLabs and all
Here is an updated General Topography of the OTPU. It is in block form and sorry for the warped perspective but I wanted to show the components relative to a 3D view.
Notice the toroid is located on the back side of the circuit board. The black band going across the circuit is electrical tape that is used to hold the toroid on the back side of the circuit. The circuit is held by two brackets as you can see the two screws on the top of the top big round speaker terminal connector that he used to put his DM probes. One major major major clue to the toroid now is that given the placement of the toroid on the circuit board that is only held by tape wrap onto the circuit board and by the L-brackets on the speaker terminal, one would expect that given the weight of that toroid that is about 3.5" Dia. by 3/4" thick, knowing something about leverage motion, well you would expect that toroid to simply break the circuit board or create major waving movement as he turned the OTPU over so many times, but it does not. This tells me the toroid is not made of heavy mass otherwise that thing should have broken off with the speed of turning of the OTPU in the demo. Very puzzling.
Also, on the OTPU circuit board is a box with a round hole in the center (upper left) that looks like a vacuum tube square casing. In the FTPU, I think also there is a vacuum tube in the center of the spool. Both OTPU and FTPU used tubes. They only need 3-6 volts to run.
I think at the preliminary or birth stage of the TPUs, SM used vacuum tubes in his first two designs since they could easily be retrofitted inside each build. All you need is pulsed DC feed to the tube and a way to condense the HV output to a more usable lower voltage higher amperage output. That's all the first two TPU's are. Nothing magic, but SM portrayed these as free energy devices while what they were doing is normal but them engineers that did the TPU report had their brains up their ass and could not notice the working basis. These first two TPUs gave SM the initial investments he needed to start living the good life as Jack Durban explained to us. SMs mansion tells the rest of the money money link. Want to keep up the lifestyle, make a new TPU. STPU and 6TPU then the bigger ones.
Cutting away the core of the MTPU means nothing since he knew where he was cutting and showed nothing, because at that position in the core, there is nothing. I think in STPU he used regular tape wrap over the device and the hidden tube melted it away. He then found a new wrapping material for the bigger TPUs that has better heat resistance.
I think in the OTPU the four coil winds or quads are simply a way of wrapping a good enough length of multi strand wire that is only used to condense the HV tube output into lower voltage. That's why there is no winding on the top disk of the OTPU. That's also why only seconds after he put on them two magnets and pushed the on button, then before he lifted the OTPU he gave several hot feels to the lower disk where the 4 coils are. He knew they were going to be hot.
Oh about the two magnets, each of those magnets where placed on small boxes that hold a reed switch. One magnet/reed connects the two left windings, the other magnet/reed for the two other windings. Or, one of the magnets is simply a dud. If that is the case then I would say the right magnet is a dud but makes a better show. lol
Now take the STPU which is his smallest donut design. Look at how the outer tape wrap has melted. Look at the thickness of that TPU and you will understand there is enough room to place a tube in there but you will definitely have to live with the heat produced, enough to melt the tape wrap and more.
I did not label everything in the diagram below because I think guys already know their way around an OTPU. lol
I think @otto is right to say tubes, but if it is tubes, then SM was very definitely in this for the money and created these videos with great care to show something overunity. Remember what the guy said when SM put the 6TPU in his hands. Buzzing noise, vibration. Then SM pulled it out of his hands and gave his gyro shmyro distraction. Well anything that is buzzing and vibrating in your hands will give you a gyro simulated effect. There is nothing major there to even waste time on. Guys here just want to take the simple TPU design to the level of their own imaginations and advanced notions. Way more advanced then the TPU.
I think also that SM came back recently to say I did not ask you guys to spend so much time on this. It is his indirect way of saying look, the TPUs were not working in the extremely sophisticated way you guys have been suggesting and testing during these last years. SM was doing this for the shut up money. He knows his technology will never produce real OU and that is why in his last message he said "we still don't know the extent of danger of this technology". HTF can you spend 10 years with a TPU and not know any more then that. He came back to pull the plug on the TPU and save face at the same time. "I did not tell you to waste so much time". Hmmmmmmm.
I cannot believe that Jack Durban, a high level EE guy could not have seen all this when SM showed him the TPUs. Lame. Very lame.
I think I have enough understanding now to replicate the FTPU. Half of the design is show and distraction. The rings and wound coils do not need to be that way but it looks really snazzy. Snazzy distracts from true function.
wattsup
PS: Question. In Tesla's Ozone Patent shorting device method, instead of being motor rotary type or relay or reed or transistor type, what would happen if you used a pulsed tube with a return diode accross it. lol
@WUp,
Good investigation. I have watched you tear at this time and time again. It is enjoyable, no? Keep at it. I have my own tasks at hand concerning all the designs that I do not give up on.