Why the governments of the developed countries are against of Free Energy sources, because
Free Energy will dramatically reduce our dependency on working people and increase the productivity in our society by tenfolds. In reality all those problems created by introduction of Free Energy: millions of unemployed people who will lose their jobs in sectors producing oil, coal, electricity etc. and in sectors which directly or indirectly connected with them; conflict of interest for rich people, who control those branches of productions - can be solved within the frame of the capitalist society without stepping on somebody’s toes among the rich people…. The future form of this capitalist society is called “Social capital†and described in the book “Capitalism today and Capitalism tomorrowâ€.
sites.google.com/site/socialcapital1/Home
The world is toast. Those watching us from high above can clearly see that our leaders are a malignant mass of self deceived arch villains. I fully expect their intervention before the "cretins that be" succeed in destroying all life on the planet via any of a number of devious technologies being currently toyed with at the expense of the remnant of sane people on the planet.
Pay attention,
It's about to get (even more) crazy down here. For a moment.
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If all those people get unemployed, who's going to sell me a free energy water heater, a free energy electrical power generator and a free energy car upgrade kit?
The point is that unemployment problem and conflict of interest for rich people who will lose their wealth as the result of introduction of Free Energy, can be solved by the capitalist society in the form of the "Social Capital". Under social capital rich people will be interested consciously to raise productivity of the social labour and for this reason they will be interested in introducing new technology, including Free Energy. You will find explanation for this metamorphose in the book "Capitalism today and capitalism tomorrow". It is the only book on the market that describes scientifically this transition for capitalist society.
I don't know what would be a negative social consequence for the rich. The only thing that would happen is the standard of living for everyone would be better. If anything more people could become "rich", "rich" completely becomes an oxymoron under a free energy society. Free energy solves war for energy- it does not stop the need for people to work to have. The efficiencies such as computer technologies will (and for the most part have) already eliminated the need for most work. Just look at the production capabilities of any facility, they far exceed the demand. In all honesty the social consequences mirror the current state of any typical day anyhow. We all drive our cars, use our boats, cook, chat on computers, play golf (or some other sport) and occasionally sip martinis. What it does is solve one of the largest ideological discrepancies that ever existed. The only thing left after free energy is Greed. When we need to produce we can, if we don't, then why bother? Money is only a useful tool when it actually has value. If we can not consume the goods we produce then money is not useful. twenty, million dollar homes sitting empty isn't very useful. Neither is 50 trillion dollars of supply that sits idle for years. This is one way of measuring the utility of money. When people are laid off the value of the money they posses should increase and they idealistically should be paid their pay checks even if they are not working. Furthermore advances in science and technologies rise when the challenges are faced. It is poor character to avoid the potential for advancement because of fear and it usually results in the most regrettable outcomes.
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An interesting 'what-if' exercise...but this is what I think would happen in the event of potentially ubiquitous FE devices:
Those that control the wealth also control industry, the law-makers and the government...they would never let a little thing like free-energy get away from them.
Control starts with legislation; the manufacture of FE devices would be strictly regulated and only licensed to a few limited companies.
Anyone caught bootlegging FE devices would have their property seized, confiscated and be subject to a prison term, much the same as those who manufacture or grow drugs illegaly.
Individuals who 'snitch-off' neighbors for suspected illegal FE use would be rewarded.
The use of 'whole-house' FE devices would be severely restricted, if not outlawed altogether, to allow a controlled transition-time from conventional power generation to FE.
Initially, licensed FE manufacturers would only be allowed to make FE 'components' for individual 'allowed' appliances.
This would be phased-in, allowing licenses for certain appliences on a pre-determined time-table: Stoves, washers, driers, computers, phones, etc.
This would result in the availability of 'powerless' technology, which would create a new job-market as well as a new technology-market.
Powerless-workers would also require special licensing before being allowed to take a job - government controlled unions would provide all training required. Training would be paid for with taxes (just as is done now in every state-subsidized union apprenticeship program).
Manufacturing quantities would be strictly controlled much the way interest rates are controlled by the FED in order to allow for growth but at the same time throttle inflation/deflation...so it would be with FE as it supplanted conventional energy production, this would keep the old jobs going while the new jobs were created and phased-in, thus stabilizing the economy.
Of course, we have to realize that, because the laws would favor those that control the legislative branches of governments, they would, in fact, wrest any individual control of FE devices from the public at large and see to it that those who control energy -now- would be those that control FE, -then-.
keep in mind, the only thing it takes to make something illegal is a 'law'.
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You are right about these possible measures that government can take in case if Free Energy generator will be on the market or its detail design will be on the Internet. But you forgot to mention couple positive moments that accelerate the production of Free Energy generators. Defence department will be interested very much in such devices, because they can be used in tanks to power their engines in military cars, ships, planes etc. By using them in above mentioned transportation, will create much saver environment during military operations for members of the crew and etc. Second, there are many countries in the world who's economy completely depend on the imported oil as main source of energy, and for this reason they will be the first one who will introduce Free Energy generators in their economy. And this will be a big advantage for them on the world market, because they will produce cheap commodities compare to the countries who create obstacles for the using free energy. Third, two years ago I discovered that "Aliens live in our Earth's atmosphere", and they use Free Energy for thousands years. When governments will realize that they will change their attitude to the free energy technology. Fourth, introduction of free energy will change the economic rules of the capitalist game: there will be no unemployment, economic crisis and working day will be reduced to 2 - 3 hours per day. See explanation for that in the book "Capitalism today and capitalism tomorrow"
Only if they get paid, get to cut ribbons and secure votes otherwise they consider you a tick and a pest.
No, I have no faith in governments.
No, I do not trust them or anything they say.
Yes, I am sane.
Yes, I am better than most citizens even if I am wrong because at least I am watching the wretches, like a hawk!
No, they are not good people. They lie about everything.
Free energy will happen because people here are doing their best to achieve it.
Keep the information flowing and we can rid this planet of Oligarchy rule and disobedience.
When we all have true independence from the kind of slavery that is energy + money then we will all have the time to simply live life, learn, grow and become a better people.
Quote from: Ilya Stavinsky on July 07, 2009, 12:31:23 PM
...they will produce cheap commodities compare to the countries who create obstacles for the using free energy.
Yes, and this will be all the more reason for any country's government-control of manufacturing, so it can be directed to markets that provide the most potential for both monetary and -political- advantage.
As you probably realize, no economy exists in a vacuum these days. Trade-agreements are enacted to provide for stability in a -Global- environment, that environment includes economic, political, military and intellectual components.
Also keep in mind that technology doesn't 'stop' with a single breakthrough, it 'leverages' the advances achieved by others, which requires that countries that want to 'achieve' more quickly, cooperate in development, implementation and regulation.
In a real-world scenario, there is more to be gained by those who hold the power in various countries forming cooperative relationships (alliances) than by attempting to 'go it alone'.
After all, FE isn't the -only- thing countries may need in order to remain economically or politically stable, international agreements will still serve to consolidate and maintain power even after FE.
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Quote from: pcjunkie on July 07, 2009, 01:01:19 PM
When we all have true independence from the kind of slavery that is energy + money then we will all have the time to simply live life, learn, grow and become a better people.
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I completely agree, I doubt you would find many who would argue against that on this board.
I always keep in mind, though, that the first tenet of Power is to 'Remain in Power', all other issues being secondary. I would guess that any serious move to 'unplug' by any significant portion of the population would be met with some resistance.
Of course, it doesn't take FE to make that happen, but it would be quite an advantage, wouldn't it?
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Free energy, such as quantum vacuum energy, solar, geothermal, and wind power, won't eliminate our dependence on oil or coal.
It might drastically reduce or eliminate it as a source of energy but countless products and materials are made from petroleum--plastics, paint, and pesticides just to name a few. Natural gas or propane may still be used for cooking for grills, stoves, and gas heating. Free energy won't eliminate our demand for oil and coal as a raw material.
As for the government outlawing the possession of FE devices... it will never work. Laws don't stop millions of people in America who possess drugs (especially Cannabis); it doesn't stop them from piracy, nor did it ever stop alcohol bootlegging during the prohibition. Having FE devices on the market is not a crime in the moral sense, so it will be that much harder for greedy governments to condemn it.
Quote from: Xaero_Vincent on July 16, 2009, 01:20:02 PM
Free energy, such as quantum vacuum energy, solar, geothermal, and wind power, won't eliminate our dependence on oil or coal.
It might drastically reduce or eliminate it as a source of energy but countless products and materials are made from petroleum--plastics, paint, and pesticides just to name a few. Natural gas or propane may still be used for cooking for grills, stoves, and gas heating. Free energy won't eliminate our demand for oil and coal as a raw material.
As for the government outlawing the possession of FE devices... it will never work. Laws don't stop millions of people in America who possess drugs (especially Cannabis); it doesn't stop them from piracy, nor did it ever stop alcohol bootlegging during the prohibition. Having FE devices on the market is not a crime in the moral sense, so it will be that much harder for greedy governments to condemn it.
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* All schoolbooks were made from hemp or flax paper until the 1880s; Hemp Paper Reconsidered, Jack Frazier, 1974.
* It was LEGAL TO PAY TAXES WITH HEMP in America from 1631 until the early 1800s; LA Times, Aug. 12, 1981.
* REFUSING TO GROW HEMP in America during the 17th and 18th Centuries WAS AGAINST THE LAW! You could be jailed in Virginia for refusing to grow hemp from 1763 to 1769; Hemp in Colonial Virginia, G. M. Herdon.
* George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and other founding fathers GREW HEMP; Washington and Jefferson Diaries. Jefferson smuggled hemp seeds from China to France then to America.
* Benjamin Franklin owned one of the first paper mills in America and it processed hemp. Also, the War of 1812 was fought over hemp. Napoleon wanted to cut off Moscow's export to England; Emperor Wears No Clothes, Jack Herer.
* For thousands of years, 90% of all ships' sails and rope were made from hemp. The word 'canvas' is Dutch for cannabis; Webster's New World Dictionary.
* 80% of all textiles, fabrics, clothes, linen, drapes, bed sheets, etc. were made from hemp until the 1820s with the introduction of the cotton gin.
* The first Bibles, maps, charts, Betsy Ross's flag, the first drafts of the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution were made from hemp; U.S. Government Archives.
* The first crop grown in many states was hemp. 1850 was a peak year for Kentucky producing 40,000 tons. Hemp was the largest cash crop until the 20th Century; State Archives.
* Oldest known records of hemp farming go back 5000 years in China, although hemp industrialization probably goes back to ancient Egypt.
* Rembrants, Gainsboroughs, Van Goghs as well as most early canvas paintings were principally painted on hemp linen.
* In 1916, the U.S. Government predicted that by the 1940s all paper would come from hemp and that no more trees need to be cut down. Government studies report that 1 acre of hemp equals 4.1 acres of trees. Plans were in the works to implement such programs; Department of Agriculture
* Quality paints and varnishes were made from hemp seed oil until 1937. 58,000 tons of hemp seeds were used in America for paint products in 1935; Sherman Williams Paint Co. testimony before Congress against the 1937 Marijuana Tax Act.
* Henry Ford's first Model-T was built to run on hemp gasoline and the CAR ITSELF WAS CONTRUCTED FROM HEMP! On his large estate, Ford was photographed among his hemp fields. The car, 'grown from the soil,' had hemp plastic panels whose impact strength was 10 times stronger than steel; Popular Mechanics, 1941.
* Hemp called 'Billion Dollar Crop.' It was the first time a cash crop had a business potential to exceed a billion dollars; Popular Mechanics, Feb., 1938.
* Mechanical Engineering Magazine (Feb. 1938) published an article entitled 'The Most Profitable and Desirable Crop that Can be Grown.' It stated that if hemp was cultivated using 20th Century technology, it would be the single largest agricultural crop in the U.S. and the rest of the world.
Quote from: Ilya Stavinsky on July 05, 2009, 04:24:00 PM
Why the governments of the developed countries are against of Free Energy sources, because
Free Energy will dramatically reduce our dependency on working people and increase the productivity in our society by tenfolds. In reality all those problems created by introduction of Free Energy: millions of unemployed people who will lose their jobs in sectors producing oil, coal, electricity etc. and in sectors which directly or indirectly connected with them; conflict of interest for rich people, who control those branches of productions - can be solved within the frame of the capitalist society without stepping on somebody’s toes among the rich people…. The future form of this capitalist society is called “Social capital†and described in the book “Capitalism today and Capitalism tomorrowâ€.
sites.google.com/site/socialcapital1/Home
..and the way world is going on today, opening the opportunity for unemployment, is like beconning a 'free energy' emergence.
Capitalism has a foot stuck in 'evils' with no care. Rich people are also a sorrily abundant resource we can do without.
Free energy is about liberation and cleaning up our act as a species...as reflected in nature and NOT just mankind alone, up against nature.
mankind is adrift from nature....capitalism paves the way, as do the rich from the direction of natural living........
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A big fight is on the horizon...who will win? Nature or man? Money or knowledge?