The site does not show the actual generator but they sell plans to build one. Is this a scam? I just would like to sort of know before spending money that may be a con. The price is like $50 dollars for the plans and it is suposed to come with tech suport. I am not in any way trying to sell these plans. This is not a trik, just an honest question.
Here is where the site is... http://www.magniwork.com/?hop=holtebook2
Peace,
Oscar
I haven't bought the plans, but...
1. If you go to youtube and search for magniwork, you'll see they are desperatelly trying to sell the plans by exploiting other peoples videos. You will not find an original video of the divice. This is NOT OK, and smells like a scam.
2. OscarMeyer you say you are not trying to sell anything but you include an affiliate link to your post.
Just my 2cents.
Regards
MAGNIWORKS IS A SCAM !
Don't buy those plans and dont send them money.
MAGNIWORKS SCAM CON FAKE
It's a scam. The plans were looked at by a few people in the radiant_energy yahoo group. Turns out they're just mini rotoverter plans that have been available on the internet for years. There are no photos in the plans either (well, one photo of a metal plate) and I doubt very much that the scammers have built it themselves.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org http://wsminfo.org
Yes, you are all right. Its a Bedini SG or SSG.
I found this on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATdKNQuUqlg&NR=1
Quote from: Dave45 on July 15, 2009, 12:00:38 PM
I found this on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ATdKNQuUqlg&NR=1
Isn't that the Steve Marks video? Many here have seen it many times over the years. The gall, overlaying the magniworks web address on the video.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org http://wsminfo.org
Quote from: Steven Dufresne on July 15, 2009, 01:07:57 PM
Isn't that the Steve Marks video? Many here have seen it many times over the years. The gall, overlaying the magniworks web address on the video.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org http://wsminfo.org
that is correct, that's the Steven Mark TPU device, which has nothing to do with what this scammer is selling .
if you google the scam site, the first result will be the real story
http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Magniwork
most of the rest of them are fake reviews posted by the scammer himself, and hijacked YouTube videos of other devices with links to his site, and most of the comments on those pages are disabled .
geee... I wonder why LOL
Never spend money on plans to build any free energy machine. They are scams in virtually all cases and Magniwork is no exception.
Not only is Magniwork not an exception, they are definitely a scam. Please look at the material on PESwiki concerning them. The logo overlay, the Bedini plans, all of that are typical of their strategy to separate you from your money.
What you get for your 50 bux is information that is easily available for free, and it will enable you to save a bit on your utility bills. It contains stuff like "turn out the lights when you leave the room." 'Unplug vampire appliances when not in use."
And instructions to build and install a meter-tricker (probably illegal where you live--it is where I live) and a legitimate power factor correction unit. Which you could build yourself for less than the cost of the plans to these people.
Look at their site, but keep your wallet in your pocket at all times.
What concerns me even more is how a couple of folks are purchasing the latest revisions just to prove that the new plans are still a scam.
Quote from: GiorNell on July 15, 2009, 02:04:44 AM
I haven't bought the plans, but...
1. If you go to youtube and search for magniwork, you'll see they are desperatelly trying to sell the plans by exploiting other peoples videos. You will not find an original video of the divice. This is NOT OK, and smells like a scam.
2. OscarMeyer you say you are not trying to sell anything but you include an affiliate link to your post.
Just my 2cents.
Regards
GiorNell,
First of all, I am NOT an affiliate of this company nor have I ever purchased any plans or products from this company or their website. This is the reason I asked people’s advice here!
Secondly, I found out about this company through OVERUNITY.COM as they are a current sponsor and advertiser on here so that would be Stephan’s (the site owner’s) affiliate that he has chosen to accept their money from in order for them to advertise professionally on this site! Which is why I am extremely confused about? Is Stephan whoring us out? Why is he allowing us to be scammed right on his own site?
Anyways, thank you people who were able to steer me away from spending money on the scammer’s site.
Regards,
Oscar.
as morally aprehensible at it may seem,
$$ is $$, if stephan has to take $$ from a scammer, to keep this site running, that thats what has to be done..
i would hope that he gets rid of their link ASAP, but
just in case that doesnt happen i'll give my 3 cents....
The magniwork people are showing videos and pictures of OTHER PEOPLES devices. ALL of what they have shown is OTHER peoples work.
Furthermore - the people listed in the so-called "testimonials" are completely FAKE - these people do NOT EXIST.. at least not on any major database that i have access to from my job.
and, EVERYONE is on these databases. so ,. they are FAKE testimonials.
They are taking money for instructions to build a product that does not exist. IF they even sent you ANY plans at all, they will be either for a non-working device, or copied from SOMEONE ELSES plans.
Do not buy anything from this company. period.
Oscar has a point.
While the link to Magniwork has been removed, there is still one called "Magnet_Energy" on the left Products pane. This links to this site:
http://www.magnet4power.com
This is probably the same fraudulent crap as Magniwork.
Stefan's ads may be done the same way as the ads on my website. I signed up with Google's ad program, they gave me some javascript, I inserted it wherever I want the ads to go, and they then supply the ads. The advertisers bid for ad placements, not always knowing which specific websites the ads will go do but using other criteria, and then an automated systems places the ads based on individual webpage content matching the advertiser's criteria.
A few times I've looked at the ads on my webpages and saw an ad that looked like it was from this scammer. Each time it wasn't though.
Stefan, you might want to contact whoever feeds your ad box in your left pane that has Magnet_Energy listed and tell them it's a scammer. I just clicked through and looked at their webpage and it's definately them. They make the claim that for as little as $200 you can send power back to the power company. That's how I know it's them.
-Steve
http://rimstar.org http://wsminfo.org
I don't think the links in question are fed by Google's AdWords. They are just static links on the forum that can added or removed at will.
@Xaero_Vincent,
Holy cow, View Page Source shows they are just static links. Looks like Stefan is supporting these scammers, though I doubt he realizes it. Stefan, are you reading this thread?
-Steve
http://rimstar.org http://wsminfo.org
This one has been around lately
has anyone here tried it
Only takes 4 hours to build with ten thumbs :o :o
http://www.johnsonmotor.org/
If anyone has their information pack let us know how you got on.
Thanks
http://freeenergynews.com/Directory/Howard_Johnson_Motor/
Quote from: Xaero_Vincent on July 15, 2009, 04:16:14 PM
Never spend money on plans to build any free energy machine. They are scams in virtually all cases and Magniwork is no exception.
And I agree with the Member's consensus. I just looked at the first site in the thread, and I said to myself,
"This is crass commercial-ism unless someone can get beyond this crap and build and improvement to it." But a rotoverter? It's hard to overcome the natural laws of physics with a simple rotoverter. A really simple concept.
(I added the dash to "commercial-ism" to the plaintext to get it to print. It previewed something different, otherwise. It's about the easiest way to write the word. The OU.com software always truncates the plaintext word.)
--Lee