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Title: cheap selfmade DIY electrical conductive carbon graphite powder for batteries
Post by: hartiberlin on March 03, 2006, 03:10:23 PM
Hi All,
my girlfriend Heidi has made my day today,
cause she discovered a new process how to make cheaply conductive carbon powder
simular to conductive graphite powder.

As she still must heat her flat? with coal-heating she asked me to measure
the electrical resistance of a red glowing heated coal piece, like this one:

http://www.rottwinkel.de/brikett.jpg (http://www.rottwinkel.de/brikett.jpg)

and to our amazement it showed real good conduction
in the 10 Ohm range, when it has cooled down from the red heat !

So we can now use these "Braunkohle-Briketts" to enhance our saltwater batteries
for much more power output !
These "Braunkohle-Briketts" are NON-conductive before heated up,
but as soon as they are red glowing and then taken out of the oven before they
have totally burned up, the carbon in them is modified to a graphite,  which means, it becomes
very electrical conductive carbon !

This is now a very cheap process to get good conductive carbon which scales
up all batteries at least with a factor of 10 in power output !
As real graphite powder is pretty expensive and hard to get ,
just using short red heated "Braunkohle-Briketts" is a very good
and cheap substitute.

I am posting later a picture about the latest experiment.

Regards, Stefan.
P.S: As this discovery is now publically disclosed on the 3rd March 2006,
no one can patent it anymore
and this helps humanity to get better cheaper longer lasting battery systems.

Title: Re: Making cheaply electrical conductive carbon powder for batteries
Post by: hartiberlin on March 03, 2006, 04:12:08 PM
Here is now a picture of my experiments today.
It shows 4 of Walter Hofmann?s watercells connected in series
and lighting up 2 white LED in parallel.
In front of it is the carbon brikett powder used for the Tic-Tac Box cell at the side.
The Tic-Tac box cell? was used to verify the enhanced output via this new powder
versus just saltwater as the electrolyte.

Regards, Stefan.

Title: Re: Making cheaply electrical conductive carbon powder for batteries
Post by: pese on May 04, 2006, 09:49:24 AM
i use since years , old zink -carbon batteries, that will contain (opened)
over 3/4 carbon powder. 
old AA (mono) battries are cheap to find in any place of the world
 
Title: Re: Making cheaply electrical conductive carbon powder for batteries
Post by: hartiberlin on May 04, 2006, 11:02:54 AM
Hi Pese,
Zink Carbon Batteries are unfortunately hard to
find in these days, cause everywhere they only sell
Alkaline batteries in the supermarkets, so also
used up batteries are mostly only ALkaline batteries,
which don?t have Graphite powder in them...

My upper discovery is a cheap way to make yourself
cheaply conductive carbon ( graphite)
powder.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Making cheaply electrical conductive carbon powder for batteries
Post by: pese on May 05, 2006, 03:52:45 AM
shure, if you heat them in home , or if an dealer is bearby ...
moste people have ord batteries in home
or an suppermarket , that collect old battries
(and you ask or take some of them)

thonk about that stone-carbon
8steinkohle an koks  =german    = coke ?)
ca also very good used for "neutral" electrodes
ib hydrogen and galvanic experiences.
"koks"  hase an very low resistance and have
an greter "surface" to the liquids as other
materials, same sized.
Because bubbels are inside , material is lowerin weigth
and with greater surface .


Shur to make self  your  cobductiv carbon
from "all" , shugar wood ! Textiles is an nice
solution.

edison have made this first "bubs / lamps"  from

textile threads

also usefully are

reed bamboo frays !  (egypte pyramide blubs??)

after connecting . the material mustt only heatet up
to make carbon of them , after this procedure , all this
materials are electrical conducive.

Mit Textil und Naturfasern (F?den) werden nach Erhitzung , mit erkohlung)
elektrisch leitf?higige "Gl?hdr?hte oder Widerst?nde erzeugt)
Edison Kohlenfadenlampe , ist nach 100 Jahren immer noch erh?ltlich !
Zucker Holz Torf , Gartenabfall , alles wird nach "Wandlung" stromleitend.
Braumkohle , nimmt eine "Zwischenstellung" zwischen Torf und teinkohle
ein (d.h. die Natur hatte noch nicht die Zeit zum Endprodukt Steinkohle zu
kommen.


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Title: Re: cheap selfmade DIY electrical conductive carbon graphite powder for batteries
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on November 26, 2009, 01:35:44 PM
here is an idea I was pondering.

make a solution of liquid graphite and use a square sponge to soak up the graphite solution, next, take a pair of tongs and dip the soaked sponge into a tub of liquid refrigerant to freeze dry the graphite into the sponge.

test for conductivity and capacitance.
test to see if sponge can be compressed while saturated with graphite solution and then freeze dried into compressed state to promote higher densities of surface volume.

just my 2 bits
Jerry 8)
Title: Re: cheap selfmade DIY electrical conductive carbon graphite powder for batteries
Post by: Hope on October 26, 2016, 01:32:31 AM
and....... who did the experiment,  who is making use of this now??
grate stuff here,     hope someone is using this idea to build out next energy temp storage devices

Title: Re: cheap selfmade DIY electrical conductive carbon graphite powder for batteries
Post by: MasterPlaster on October 27, 2016, 04:02:31 AM
In England we have shops that sell anything for £1. They sell Zinc batteries. Also most Chinese products that include batteries are zinc batteries.


@Stefan, How do you put out the burning brikett? Do you put water on it?
Title: Re: cheap selfmade DIY electrical conductive carbon graphite powder for batteries
Post by: Paul-R on October 27, 2016, 12:12:14 PM
I can't really see what is going on in the pic in post #1.

Could we have a circuit or description?


Also, you know the cockpit voice recorder and flight data recorders fitted to aircraft. They have an underwater locator beacon on the end. This sort of thing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_recorder

The problem is the battery only lasts 30 days. Would you be able to create a battery which uses seawater which would then last a year or so? (Don't forget that it will need to be tested under the most appallingly savage conditions).