Overunity.com Archives

Mechanical free energy devices => mechanic => Topic started by: Butch on March 03, 2006, 10:46:15 PM

Title: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: Butch on March 03, 2006, 10:46:15 PM
Open Source Energy Network offered to edit and compress the file I sent them Tuesday. I have left many messages on office and home phone voice mail Thursday and today including emails and Skype messages. They have not replied to my messages as of 9:30 tonight.
I am sending the file to Stefan Hartman if he accepts it for editing and compression. I will let you know the second I get it from Stefan.
Thanks,
Butch
Title: Re: Update on self runner video, from Butch
Post by: hartiberlin on March 04, 2006, 03:31:41 PM
Okay Butch, I emailed you the FTP information.
Just drop it in my FTP upload site.
Many thank for making it available.
Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Update on self runner video, from Butch
Post by: Omnibus on March 04, 2006, 04:29:13 PM
Stefan, I know you're waiting for Butch to post it but did you really see the self-sustained motor in that video (unless you don't wanna reveal that prior to Butch posting it first)?
Title: Re: Update on self runner video, from Butch
Post by: hartiberlin on March 04, 2006, 08:57:01 PM
Haven?t yet received the file,
waiting for Butch to upload.
Thanks.
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: hartiberlin on March 07, 2006, 09:45:07 PM
Okay, here are now the 2 Files:

http://www.overunity.com/snyder (http://www.overunity.com/snyder)

They are in Microsoft MPEG-4  V2 and GSM 6.1 Audio codec.

In the first part the inventor Wesley Synder shows another invention
an airpowered motor on a magnetic bearing.
At the end there is shown the magnet motor in a bigger size.

The second part of the video shows the inventor Synder showing the
magnet motor, but only in his hands and I don?t know, if he does
not push the parts so that he adds energy to the system
simularto what Howard Johnson did earlier with his motor
when demoing it to the patent office.

So until I see a stationary motor of this kind accelerating
without manual touching it, I am still skeptical about this design.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: Omnibus on March 07, 2006, 10:05:33 PM
Thanks, Stefan. I'm downloading it now. In the meantime I wanna ask you, how do you mean Howard Johnson was holding the motor in his hand while showing it to the Patent Office officials? Is there anywhere a report of what Howard Johnoson did at the Patent Office?
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: hartiberlin on March 07, 2006, 10:17:34 PM
Howard Johnson did get his motor only patented, cause he was holding
the banana magnet stator in his hand and the rotor was turning beneath it.
He just fed mechanical energy via his hand motion to it.
With a static fixed banana stator it did not work, at least not that I heard of.
JL Naudin had done several simulations about it, but I guess the simulation software
also has bugs and in the real world nobody to my knowledge has ever got the Howard
Johnson motor to work. Simular to the Minato video, where he holds
the stator magnet and"pumps" this way energy into the system.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: Omnibus on March 07, 2006, 10:30:45 PM
That is quite strange, indeed. Johnson must have been doing quite an exercise. I can't fathom how slight, invisible motions of a hand (appearing stationary to the observer) could supply the energy needed and make the rotor turn. Even if he starts to wave his hand I don't see what special motions must he do (unles he circles around with the stator) to make the rotor run. If he had circled around it would've been outright fraud. It's unbelievable that the Patent Office could tolerate such fraud. Anyway, I'm still downloading. It's not a small file.
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: Omnibus on March 07, 2006, 11:15:32 PM
Thanks Butch for supplying the video and Stefan for rendering it for the web. This is really amazing. I don't see how energy can be supplied to the device just by holding it. I think this is it. As far as I know, this is the first public demonstration of a self-sustaining magnetic motor.

Do you have any contact information for Wesley Snyder?
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: Omnibus on March 08, 2006, 12:17:30 AM
Does anyone know if Howard Johnson is still with us (I really hope he is) and what his coordinates are? To my knowledge, he was the one who started it all.
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: hartiberlin on March 08, 2006, 11:48:49 PM
Here are a few pics from it,
got them from Butch !
Thanks !
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: hartiberlin on March 08, 2006, 11:49:45 PM
next picture
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: hartiberlin on March 08, 2006, 11:50:35 PM
next picture
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: hartiberlin on March 08, 2006, 11:51:12 PM
next picture
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: hartiberlin on March 08, 2006, 11:52:27 PM
next picture
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: hartiberlin on March 08, 2006, 11:53:32 PM
next picture
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: hartiberlin on March 08, 2006, 11:54:11 PM
next picture
Title: Re: Snyder self runner magnet motor video, from Butch
Post by: Omnibus on March 09, 2006, 12:15:48 AM
Butch or maybe Stefan, does anyone of you know how one can get in touch with Wesley Snyder?
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: hartiberlin on March 09, 2006, 07:03:01 PM
Here are 2 WORD DOC files from Mr.Snyder as he was showing his
unit to the university in Houston,Texas.
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: hartiberlin on March 09, 2006, 07:04:07 PM
Here is the next doc file.
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: Dude on March 11, 2006, 01:26:30 AM
Is there any more design info or specs so that others can replicate this device?
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: nvidovich on March 12, 2006, 05:34:23 PM
it was interesting that whoever was filming the video referred to the one piece as where 'the magic' happens... are patents pending? even so, what would be the benefit of hiding the details?
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: hartiberlin on March 18, 2006, 07:09:54 PM
I just received thisinfo from Mr. Dennis Diehl:

Wes and I want to thank you for presenting his work on your site. The video that you have was only intended for my son, William Diehl who is VP of manufacturing and advertising for Gateway and E-machine computer companies in California. He is interested in looking for investors to by the project. I should have taken the time to make another video for your web site. I was unaware of your site until Butch advised me that it would be a good idea to have it posted there. We feel that Wes is so close to success that we have been waiting to make the new video. Butch has agreed to help with our communication with your site. Wes and I are both very busy and it really is a great benifit for us to have Butch who has spent a lot of time communicating with us. The motor will run with a static stator! Not a doubt about that. The problem is that the rotor is very hard to control and adjust to run when hanging. As you look at the video, you will not see any hand movement. You can hold hold
the rotor as steady as you possibly can by bracing your arms. however your hand will unnoticeably to you, return the rotor ever so slightly back to the center of the stator field, there by compensating for the eliptical ocilation of rotation. Wes has built a new gantry for demonstration and vewing seperate from the alternator. He is also working with a newly constructed spiral compensator that will help control the pendulum and rotor orbit. The static stator is a non issue. The stator was only being held because we did not have a gantry tall enough to enclude shownig the power of the motor by doing work and turning the transmission. I believe that Wes is on the right track. I think that it is not a matter of if, but when. I did forward a picture of the new gantry to Butch. I was wondering if Butch forwarded a copy of a picture of the first public demonstration of both devices given at the University Of Houston on Dec 16, 2005 ? If not, I will ask him to forward that to you.
The motor has only been running since Dec 6, 2005. Wes has named his work, the Ezekiel 16 Magnetic Motor Project. A wheel within a wheel as the passage describes it. We have absolutly no intention of over stateing the device. I will not permit that to happen and would correct any misstatement on the spot when I see it . I will not knowingly have my name involved in anything of that nature, and Wes feels the same way. The alternator according to Wes, is a step beyound magnetic bearings. He indicates that the rotor sets at zero g, and the magnetic fields of the rotor are not affected by the surroundeing fields. This is why that it is so efficent and requires very little energy to activate. We will do a write up on the alternator to help define its' value and potential. Personally, I am more excited about the alternator at this point than I am about the motor. The alternator is ready for R&D to bring it to market. If you have any quetions you can feel free to call or e-mail me
if you wish. We will continue to undate Butch as things develop. I was with Wes for several hours last night. Sometime during the day Saturday, he expects to start experiments with the the new rotor compensator, and the new gantry. My first observation is that the new compensaor may be a little soft magnetically and have to be beefed up somewhat. We will see shortly.

                                                Dennis Diehl :)
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: hartiberlin on March 18, 2006, 07:19:07 PM
New picture from Wes?s new stator stand.
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: hartiberlin on March 18, 2006, 07:25:09 PM
another pic
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: hartiberlin on March 18, 2006, 07:36:34 PM
yet another picture
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: hartiberlin on March 18, 2006, 07:37:03 PM
another pic
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: Omnibus on March 18, 2006, 08:11:05 PM
Thank you very much for the update. I?m a little concerned about this sentence:

Quotehowever your hand will unnoticeably to you, return the rotor ever so slightly back to the center of the stator field, there by compensating for the eliptical ocilation of rotation.

but the design you show in the last pictures will put all doubts to rest once it starts independently working (without being held by hands).

Keep up the good work and please keep us posted.
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: hartiberlin on March 18, 2006, 08:24:25 PM
Another update from Dennis:

Butch! Here are some photos of the gantry that Wes is building. I was there about 3: PM and Wes asked me to shoot you a progress report. It looks as if he will finish the gantry this evening sometime. I expect it will be around 8 or 9 : PM. We hung the new rotor in a temporary fashion for the photo. As you look closely you will see that the Hanging and adjusting mechanisms that raise and lower the Pendulum and rotor is not installed as of yet. If you can see, there is a centering magnetic post mounted in the bottom of the device to replace what will be part of the drive and transmission that will transfer power to the alternator. Well, this is the plan at this stage. The red colored attachment hanging the rotor is a combination pendulum and limiting positioner for the spiraling oscillations in the rotor as it rotates in the stator field. Wes describes the spiraling as the effect of Newtons law and cannon ball theory. This is according to Wes, the theory used by NASA or anyone when figuring launch configurations for sub or orbital launches. Well it sounds good anyway. :-)  I will keep you informed. I still believe that the positioner will need to be strengthen to be completely effective. We shall see very shortly.
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: Jdo300 on March 19, 2006, 01:07:01 PM
Hi,

I'm wondering if this motor has any correlations to the David Hamel motors? Any comments?

God Bless,
Jason O
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2006, 07:03:49 PM
QuoteI'm wondering if this motor has any correlations to the David Hamel motors? Any comments?

I don?t think so. In Hamel?s demo the ball is not attached to an axis and soon escapes from the field after only a few turns. Besides, it is crucially dependent on the adjustments by the hand holding the stator magnet. If such adjustments are acceptable (they are not) a few turns of the rotor can be achieved in many different ways, not only with Hamel?s device. On the other hand, Snyder?s claim is that he can demonstrate turning of the rotor while the motor is stationed on a table away from anybody?s interference. This is what everybody is waiting to see.
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2006, 07:10:09 PM
If I may post something off topic ...

Dennis, could you check please if it is in Ezekiel 16 or it is Ezekiel 1 who talks about the four persons with four faces each and wheels next to each one of them. These wheels represent the spirit of these persons and they are adorned with eyes (magnets ?) and their functioning involves wheel in a wheel concept. Ezekiel 16 seems to refer in some way to Jerusalem and the wheel in a wheel concept doesn?t appear to be there.
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: Nastrand2000 on March 19, 2006, 07:26:35 PM
Here you go omnibus..... http://www.thebookofrevelations.cc/AWheelwithinaWheel.html
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: Gregory on March 19, 2006, 07:36:28 PM
Yes, Book of Ezekiel, chapter 1, almost the begining of it. Four faces and four wheels, and wheels inside wheels. This is one of my favorite parts of that book. In my explanation that is some kind of machine, maybe a landing unit with four wheels rotating in different directions, wheel inside wheel.
Maybe this is off topic, but still interesting. It is also appear in other chapters of Ezekiel.
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: Omnibus on March 19, 2006, 07:40:02 PM
Thanks Nastrand2000 ...
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: hartiberlin on March 29, 2006, 04:07:53 PM
Here is more info from Mr. Diehl, the friend of Wesley Snyder:

Things are going slow at the moment. I have only seen the rotor running on 
it's own for a period of 20 minutes and very slow. It is so temperamental. Wes,
( Tex) as he wants to be called. Is working night and day, seven days a
week. I  was going to hold off putting out the first video, but Tex wanted to let 
everyone know what he was up to. Now he is under the gun as we call it, to
get  the rotor more stable and dependable hanging from the gantry. We have 8 
different rotors that we will show in the next video. Butch has agreed to get it
to you once he receives it. I have been holding off because I was hoping the
rotor would be running from the gantry any time now. I know that as soon as
it  is stabilized we will be sending out another video.
Title: Re: Snyder Self Sustaining Magnet Motor
Post by: Dude on April 03, 2006, 03:27:33 PM
Thanks Hartiberlin for keeping us updated!

I am fascinated with this and continuously watch this thread.

thanks again,
Dude