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Title: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on August 20, 2009, 11:50:02 PM
   
    ...you can find,as a basic drawing at :   www.geocities.com/iacob_alex
   then click on "Inertial Drive".

        All the best! / Alex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: Cloxxki on August 21, 2009, 06:39:49 AM
http://www.geocities.com/iacob_alex/Inertial_drive/TractivePendulum.jpg

Nice drawing!
Did you build it?

Seems easy enough to "lego"?
Wish I hadn't stashed my old supply so far away..
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on August 21, 2009, 01:05:01 PM

        Hi !

  Really,the name of this drawing is "Tractive Pendulum".

  It was proposed to "Invent-Tech"/FL (11-18-2004) as "Centrifugal Pulsatory Tractive Vector".

  The answer was: "at this point,we are unable to offer any further assistance to you..."

  I have no comments...

  By the way,there is  a natural widespread " index prohibition " ,regarding some topics,as perpetuum mobile or inertial propulsion.

  We can understand easy this situation...after so many failures and impostures,but the hope is the only one our walking dream.

  At   www.evert.de/eft377.htm   you can see Felix Wuerth's test with a simple pendular arrangement :his problem is with stability,motion control.

         All the best! / Alex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 21, 2009, 09:03:29 PM
The only thing I see with the Inertial Drive system is one is trying to get a train to fly, in space or the air it won't work, it has no foot hold to kick off of. it is also inefficient at covering distance.

That's just what I see, have fun anyways.

Jerry
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on August 21, 2009, 10:06:00 PM

         Hi !

  Firstly,the inertia is everywhere:it's the basic law of  mechanics...

  Everything is immersed in this property ("something" if you like).

  A simulation (but nothing more..) of inertia drive ,you can see at :
   www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbGHp01eh1l

  A real performance ( a promising one!) ,you can see at :
   www.youtube.com/watch?v=a49d5cJOGQ0

  With one more step,in my opinion,we can enter into reality with a side axis stable tractive vector,in the line of the inertial drive.

      All the best! / Alex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 21, 2009, 10:18:58 PM
Quote from: iacob alex on August 21, 2009, 10:06:00 PM
         Hi !

  Firstly,the inertia is everywhere:it's the basic law of  mechanics...

  Everything is immersed in this property ("something" if you like).

  A simulation (but nothing more..) of inertia drive ,you can see at :
   www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbGHp01eh1l

  A real performance ( a promising one!) ,you can see at :
   www.youtube.com/watch?v=a49d5cJOGQ0

  With one more step,in my opinion,we can enter into reality with a side axis stable tractive vector,in the line of the inertial drive.

      All the best! / Alex

It only stores energy, I might say, inefficient at that. no OU nor could it fly. without a big prop that is. I would love to see this device in a car and then race it against the White Zombie!

pretty neat though, I think the designer did a good job.

Gyro's only store energy.

Jerry ;)
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on August 21, 2009, 10:52:15 PM

      Hi Jerry !

  So,we meet a "tragediante-comediante" situation...

  The optimist believes that we live in the best of all possible words,but. the pessimist fears this is true.The real life ,usually is something between these limits.

  Ok! You say "no".Then,why are you visiting this topic?

  Have you a web site,or a proposal regardind "New propulsion technologies"!?

  Maybe,for some people ,to forbid something...arouses the desire,for the others.

       All the best! / Alex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on August 21, 2009, 11:45:02 PM
Quote from: iacob alex on August 21, 2009, 10:52:15 PM
      Hi Jerry !

  Have you a web site,or a proposal regardind "New propulsion technologies"!?

  Maybe,for some people ,to forbid something...arouses the desire,for the others.

       All the best! / Alex

So what are you saying? you would like some Honeycomb and some fish? I know you won't understand what I am saying but maybe in the years to come.

The only problem with this propulsion system is that the world is to much at war and there is to much violence to even think about giving things away right now. I know I wouldn't want N. Korea having it and you'd better hope so too. if N. Korea got it, they would slaughter the world and you wouldn't even see the enemy!

enough said, Cheeri'O

Jerry ;)
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on August 24, 2009, 02:18:30 PM

    ...it's simply ,to make use of an one-way inertial vector.

      The two-ways inertial vector (mechanical vibrator),is well known and used.

      So,have we ,just another small step,only?

      As in electricity :AC vs. DC ?!

          All the best ! / Alex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on August 05, 2013, 11:07:40 AM
.....as an out of blue , unexpected brief interplay of the rotational inertia with gravity , at:


  www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff8oqoYxD7U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ff8oqoYxD7U)


   For a short time , as a "sparkle" of inertial drive ,it's like the rotational inertia acts as a temporary , mobile / floating... fulcrum / support for the dumping waves of the spinning  chain (out of rotational driver...) in the same manner as a bouncing ball in gravity.


So , with a "floating fulcrum" (as a life-belt , or a raft), can we "swimm " in some manner inside  the  inertial ("water" )  property of space ?


Here , it's natural to make a connection with some commonly visions of people (so-called ufo) : "floating fulcrums"?

   Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: SkyWatcher123 on August 05, 2013, 02:47:21 PM
Hi alex, thanks for sharing.
Built one of those asymmetric capacitors (condenser) in the past using a flyback for TV as input.
These asymmetric capacitor are probably inertial drives also, though solid state and hard to discern its propulsive force.
Though we do know, that the biefeld/brown effect works even better in a vacuum, so it is no ordinary aero or hydrodynamic effect (ion wind).
Closest thing to lifting yourself up by your own bootstraps that am aware of.
peace love light
tyson :)

Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on August 06, 2013, 06:12:41 AM
   Hi Tyson !
If you type "spinning top toys" on net , you can visit a multitude of things about this subject , and as a return....a multitude of suggestions ,also  related to your intentions.


  Al_ex.
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on November 12, 2015, 10:54:53 AM
.....as a project , at : https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXx-Hzj3tc (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ezXx-Hzj3tc)
     It's a "liquid state" engine proposal , face to :  http://jnaudin.free.fr/html/TIE.htm
     Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on May 23, 2016, 10:29:19 AM
.....if we evolve an up-down ( to and fro ) vector , we can see at :
     http://solutionsinmotion.clevelandvibrator.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/RE-Rotary-Electric-Principles-copy.jpg (http://http://solutionsinmotion.clevelandvibrator.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/RE-Rotary-Electric-Principles-copy.jpg)
     www.hajtech.hu/vibromotor.htm
.....into an up ( to ) vector , at :  www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text020.jpg (http://www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text020.jpg)
     That is a two ways common vibratory principle , into an one way vector...or a centrifugal pulsatory  tractive vector !?

     Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on May 25, 2016, 12:50:59 PM
.....this time as an application of a simple inclined pair of eccenters , to a lateral vehicle parking , at :
     http://file.scirp.org/Html/3-1860094_31639.htm (http://file.scirp.org/Html/3-1860094_31639.htm)
     A possible application for transportation , with a synchronized pair of variable , at :
     www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Some_Drafts/text020.jpg
     Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on May 26, 2016, 04:22:20 AM
.....as an experiment , at :  https://youtu.be/DlxBVP93cXQ (https://youtu.be/DlxBVP93cXQ)
     (Full Explanation:2012 Inertial Wheel Project)
     Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on May 26, 2016, 12:47:52 PM
.....proposal , at : www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Inertial_Drive.html
     Usually , a little experience ( design ) upsets a lot of theory ( words ) .
     Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: Smann on August 19, 2016, 03:49:34 AM
Hi. Inertial drives could be possible with three motors and three axes of rotation - I imagine...
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on February 09, 2018, 05:49:36 PM
.....starting with a common image of a drone (four syncro counter-rotating blades) playing air :
     https://www.wired.com/2017/05/the-physics-of-drones (https://www.wired.com/2017/05/the-physics-of-drones)
     but as a "replica" , replacing the blades with an arrangement of four syncro double counter-rotating weights/eccenters , so to obtain a pulsatory tractive summary vector in a semi-space...or the real freedom of motion anywhere !
     Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on February 12, 2018, 09:07:39 AM
.....in a short vectorial "expression ", can be the next "missing" image (FIG.3...) , at :
     www.reductor-motor.com/hun-theory-bolygo.html (http://www.reductor-motor.com/hun-theory-bolygo.html)
     www.venanzetti.it/default.aspx?mid=8301
     If the mass is the "car" , simply we need to evolve the centrifugal "horse/s" pull(omni,to and fro,TO...).
     Maybe , it's not a waste of time...thinking about a possible centrifugal pulsatory tractive vector , as a result of a double syncro rotation of four identical eccenters.
     Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on February 13, 2018, 11:34:27 AM
.....as a lot of starting point (designs) , at :
     www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Inertial_Rotors.html (with variable angular velocity )
.....as a diversity of "small size" experiments ,at :
     www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Disclosed_experiments.html
     Their common point is to play the rotational inertia , so to obtain a tractive centrifugal acceleration ( one-way thrust ).
     Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on March 29, 2018, 06:03:32 AM
.....with a proposal of syncro motion of masses at :  https://youtu.be/snZ1rWhpZxo
     Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on February 06, 2019, 06:23:33 AM
.... as a propulsive effect of an eccentered rotating mass , at :
     http://www.perpetualmotion21.blogspot.com/2014/07/the-todeschinidi-bella-device-part-i.html
     An arrangement of four di Bella mechanism , can develop a controllable one-way pulsatory "tractive" vector...a kind of inertial "sails" ...or inertial "horses"...
     Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on February 12, 2019, 02:06:32 PM
.....as an unidirecțional resulting motion , at :
     http://conf.uni-ruse.bg/bg/docs/cp14/2/2-1.pdf
     Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on January 27, 2021, 05:08:50 PM
.....as a new proposal , at :
     https://youtu.be/XXfJwcriE7s
     Simply , four syncro rotating masses on a Viviani trajectory have as a result an one way variable vector...or a possible semi-space tractive vector...a kind of "inertial horses" or "sails" , if you like.
     A Todeschini/di Bella patent (1965) implies a single double rotating mass , playing the centrifugal effect...but as a "wild horse".
     The proposal up-here plays four syncro double rotating masses ( with the same Viviani curvature /path in a semi-space ) intended to have as a result an one way variable vector.
     We can play planar rotational effects ( acceleration ) via variable angular velocity.
     We can play spatial rotational effects ( acceleration ) via constant angular velocity , but with multiple axis rotations .
     On the same line , some old proposals , at :
     www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/stanga.html
      Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on March 17, 2021, 10:12:25 PM
.....if we start with a common principle (two synchro contrarotating planar masses ) , as :
     https://solutionsinmotion.clevelandvibrator.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/RE-Rotary-Electric-Principles-copy.jpg (https://solutionsinmotion.clevelandvibrator.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/RE-Rotary-Electric-Principles-copy.jpg)
.....we can play vibration as a "TO and FRO" (linear) vector.
     Now , we need a TO ( tractive...) vector , only...
      Let's make a possible simple transition to spatial  vectors...
     If we introduce one more ( equal ) rotation , as :
     www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Disclosed_experiments/grab0060.JPG (http://www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Disclosed_experiments/grab0060.JPG)
....we play a circular semi-space vector (summum of two Viviani curves ).
      If we add a similar synchro rotating pair , can we play a "clean" stable , pulsatory TO vector ?
       Al_ex
Title: Re: Inertial drive...
Post by: iacob alex on March 18, 2021, 09:35:30 PM
.....has an idealized trajectory of the summary vectors ( 1:04 to. 1:45 ), in a semi-space , at :
     https://youtu.be/GyPaRTy-RII (https://youtu.be/GyPaRTy-RII)
......but we can obtain it playing double of :
     www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Disclosed_experiments/grab0060.JPG (http://www.geocities.ws/iacob_alex/Disclosed_experiments/grab0060.JPG)   (1999)
.....something simplified , but alike :
     https://youtu.be/XXfJwcriE7s (https://youtu.be/XXfJwcriE7s)
     Anyway , the starting point is Alfio di Bella patent (1967) :

     https://youtu.be/lyUemImHU3Y (https://youtu.be/lyUemImHU3Y)
     and Viviani trajectory curvature ("smooth " double rotating...) in a semi space ( sphere ):
     https://mathworld.wolfram.com/VivianisCurve.html (https://mathworld.wolfram.com/VivianisCurve.html)
     Al_ex