Basically all we have is motion.We cannot control anything but ourselves.The cosmos moves,creates and destroys of it's own account and we cannot control it.We have become slaves to our minds and imaginations to the point where we are doing more harm than good.Time is passing and we are using everything up for our vain attempts of understanding and manipulating every possible thing.Now,the problem is control.If someone ingests a drug it is commonly said and thought that now the drug is in control.In the same way,to me it's the mind that we have become enslaved by.Curiosity killed the cat and it's killing us.So much of what we must have we don't actually need.The "energy crisis" is a construct based on the premise that all this bullshit is necessary.If we are not going to do anything then why do we need the energy to do it?Yes,"throw the baby out with the bath water.Everyone wants to get rich off toasters and shaving cream,cars,ect.Every day it continues.Where are we going?At what cost are we going there?I know in my heart of hearts that there was a time in history where people were on the right track as far as living in harmony with everything else.Are we past the point of no return?I thought about time travel and i came to the same conclusions as the sci fi movie made..."we are the undeniable result of our past...and that's why we can't change it."But motivation aside even if i could travel into the past i wouldn't want to because it's not the past that's the problem,it's every day that we live our lives according to what's been suggested to us,what's been implied,what's been shoved down our throats that we "need,need,need" all this fucking junk and all these dreams and the whole thing.What we need is to be on the same page,every last one of us.What is the majority thinking these days?I don't know about you guys but this world the way it is now just won't do.
Quote from: christo4_99 on August 28, 2009, 03:08:01 AM
Basically all we have is motion.We cannot control anything but ourselves.The cosmos moves,creates and destroys of it's own account and we cannot control it.We have become slaves to our minds and imaginations to the point where we are doing more harm than good.Time is passing and we are using everything up for our vain attempts of understanding and manipulating every possible thing.Now,the problem is control.If someone ingests a drug it is commonly said and thought that now the drug is in control.In the same way,to me it's the mind that we have become enslaved by.Curiosity killed the cat and it's killing us.So much of what we must have we don't actually need.The "energy crisis" is a construct based on the premise that all this bullshit is necessary.If we are not going to do anything then why do we need the energy to do it?Yes,"throw the baby out with the bath water.Everyone wants to get rich off toasters and shaving cream,cars,ect.Every day it continues.Where are we going?At what cost are we going there?I know in my heart of hearts that there was a time in history where people were on the right track as far as living in harmony with everything else.Are we past the point of no return?I thought about time travel and i came to the same conclusions as the sci fi movie made..."we are the undeniable result of our past...and that's why we can't change it."But motivation aside even if i could travel into the past i wouldn't want to because it's not the past that's the problem,it's every day that we live our lives according to what's been suggested to us,what's been implied,what's been shoved down our throats that we "need,need,need" all this fucking junk and all these dreams and the whole thing.What we need is to be on the same page,every last one of us.What is the majority thinking these days?I don't know about you guys but this world the way it is now just won't do.
Hi Christo.
Mankind has always been that way before and after he became up right.
back in the deep past there were horrible atrocities just as there is today.
the only difference between now and then is the technological era and population at hand. over population is the worst. religion will see to it that we really do over populate our selves and then billions will die from the collapse of the worlds resources. this may happen within the next 1 to 2 thousand years if we don't control the birth rates some how humanely.
there has never been peace in mankinds history on a global scale nor may there ever be a peace that lasts. it is the Human nature to dominate and survive that causes problems, there is not one species on this planet that mankind can not eradicate.
Man is more than just an animal, he is the most intelligent animal on Earth and that will always make man the most dangerous in history at any era.
the only solution to keep man from destroying this Zoo called Earth is to live in space. hopefully one day man will not need a planet or its resources to survive.
the Zoo called Earth would just be an attraction. nobody would live on it, just around it.
time will only tell.
Cherri'O
Jerry ;)
well,we all know how it has been in the past...and it's easy to say but painful to actually think about...what i'm saying is the time is now...for the change...people are realizing that all this is leading nowhere...i am talking about personal action and responsibility...shall we globalize in their way?...only to find out that it's just a different color of the same cage?it's all a construct so that they can pretend that they are something they aren't and we can wallow in the mud and be helpless swines.Either way there is no excuse for destroying it all.People should learn to be content because more is not always better.I am not here to discuss anything.I want you to think.I don't want a history lesson.It's not about the past "it's not the past that's the problem,it's every day that we live our lives according to what's been suggested to us,what's been implied,what's been shoved down our throats that we "need,need,need" all this fucking junk and all these dreams and the whole thing."I wasn't there and i really don't give a shit what "was."So i guess the world is really full of scared little men who don't empower themselves enough to want and produce the best that they can for their children,friends and families.No government is gonna do shit in this world except fight wars and collect money.I rest my case.Please, anyone reading:This isn't about educating me.I'm pissed.the truth is the joke is on you...yes,take it personally...that is the point.
Hi Christo.
My favorite Lyrics Band will tell you all about it, even about me, my life basically revolved around my favorite Band, RUSH.
The Tree's: By RUSH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvQ2JF-glvw
Enjoy!
Jerry ;)
I think there are two very important issues here, that are not necessarily related: Out-of control and unsustainable Consumerism, and Population Growth.
The first is a choice, pushed on us by our societal environment, by those who want to control us through economic slavery. To get us to stay on the hamster wheel on our own; they imprinted the need to always buy more stuff onto our psyches. This can be seen in many ways, but perhaps one very graphic way is in which women's fashions are viewed: Those who have not spent money on the latest "trends" stand out and are considered "inferior" by many (or even just in their own minds)... They are viewed as "poor consumers" and therefor should not rate "our" respect. This is of course silly, but there it is. Whether this was just Madison Ave through the help of and TV and Edward Bernais trying to make more money, or whether it was the corporations and those behind them doing it, can be argued... But the result is the same.
To solve this, only awareness is required. Our basic natures do not require rapid consumerism, it is an artificial construct that was pushed on us deliberately; and so it can be deliberately ended and brought back to sane proportions again.
The second question, Population Growth, is a core problem that revolves around our instinct to procreate versed the finite resources of the planet. It is trickier to solve, but the same social engineering that turned most of us into good little consumers, can be used into making us stewards of the earth... Via societal peer pressure. Because the more aware we are of our situation and actions, the less of a hold that animal instinct has over us. And there is clear proof and evidence that population growth is fully controllable via PERSONAL CHOICE. Those who are more educated, and prosperous, have far fewer children. This is fact.
Therefor the idea of Free Energy being "bad" for population growth; is disinfo bull shit meant to dissuade people from pursuing it. If even half of the money now spent on weapons and standing armies was redirected to positive means, a natural occurrence after the major reasons for war were removed (...ENERGY and scarcity), then the education and prosperity of these third-world countries with the large pop growth would come quickly on its own... Without the need for genocide or draconian laws. When Free Energy provides them the means to compete with the world and create a viable middle class, and so allows for proper education, their rapid growth will shrink to barely nothing (around 2 children per couple). THIS is why free energy, despite what many who's aim is to stop it may say, will actually SOLVE the Earth's population problem, not cause more of it.
There are many examples of this through history: The number of children per couple is related to the level of POVERTY.. Not religion or any other factor.
In who's interest is it to keep the vast majority of people on this planet ignorant and poor?
The same who's interest is to have us continue burning fossil fuels for as long as possible.
The watchers will end this system of things. The nations are being deceived and are taking up arms to do battle with the watchers. The watchers are from the heavens and will destroy this system of things.
GB
Hi GB.
the highest civilization is a type 4, these type 4 civ could also have come from elsewhere but there is an ultra high probability that the Human race also made it to type 4, if that is the case then type 4 humanoids have time traveled not to just one time period but according to a type 4 they would be in all time frames at the same time watching all of history if they so wish.
The Human race even with Atomic weapons stands no chance at harming a type 4 humanoid with their ability to read and plant thoughts into the minds of who they wish, this type of race has so much power they can alter stars, planets, solar systems and possibly galaxies because they don't have to deal with it on a macro scale like we do.
this type of civ can actually see through your own eyes, hear with your own ears, taste what you taste, smell what you smell, monitor your biological functions with out a whim, they would even know how many hairs are on your head and accounted for.
Their superior Computer technology can monitor every thought on this world at the same time and not even strain it.
now, hook somebody up to a Super Quantum Computer at the brain function level with passive abilities so as not to harm the computer host brain and one could have a Super Quantum Mind at hand.
then there is the probability that they are not even biological anymore but have surpassed this level of existence, maybe super droids that are super humanoid.
then again, it might be alien but that has its own probabilities.
I could go on but I think everyone has thought of this before so it isn't really a biggy.
remember, there is always a higher probability that our distant generations will come back to haunt us as a type 4 civilization.
we are currently a type .07 civilization as of 2009.
Type 4 civilizations are 'like' Gods.
if there is a type 5 then this would be the God of all Gods. in Physics there is no type 5 but that doesn't mean there isn't. it's all about probability.
to a type 4 or a type 5 if it exists this Earth would be nothing more than a Zoo for them to monitor and take care of or do whatever they wish in accordance to any possible paradoxes that they could easily avoid because they have all of history recorded and constantly monitored including the minds and all probabilities equated in their super quantum computer system.
they may even have mastered a way to not even need computers and simply self evolved themselves via dimensional and or biological changes.
you can not win at a game of chess no matter how deep the layers with an opponent that can read your every thought.
it's like the first one into the 11th dimension is God and the rest after that are all rotten eggs.
Jerry ;)
a pungent truth is welling up inside of me,an almost sadness from being aware of how simple a thing it is to live and accept all the crap of this world.the people who are controlling things on a political-corporate-economic level may sincerely think that they are doing the world justice with the control and institutions,military,idealistic eventualities and other "favors". and all one needs to do is study history and it would seem that these means nearly justify these ends.it is hard to see the whole picture but still,good intentions are a commodity while good results are scarce.erase all the lines on the map,the globe,even language itself if it should hinder comprehension of the truth.I am ready to make whatever sacrifice is necessary to take the next step whether it be psychological,spiritual,physical or whatever.I think this is happening all over the world.People are living on the edge of something radical.It's not about what "they" are doing because "that" is nothing new at all....it's about what "we" are doing.I can feel it.
Hi folks, It's good to see people seeing things more clearly and saying, 'Were not gonna take it, anymore'. ( Twisted Sister quote). Though I would disagree that there is and has ever been a population problem, that's exactly one of the world controllers agendas is to depopulate so as to have a more manageable number of compliant slaves, come now. Yes indeed, there exists many other forms of life in this universe and benevolent beings have been assisting humanity and calling them watchers or our star brothers and sisters is fine, however it surely wouldn't be needed for them to destroy any human systems on earth since the systems are designed to do that on there own as most about now are noticing. Stay centered in peace, no matter what my friends.
peace love light
Tyson :)
I dont think overpopulation is a problem. We have plenty of unused space, not counting underground, in the ocean, and so forth. Perhaps we have a mismanagement of land, but thats a different problem. In fact I think we should develop ways to stop aging itself. Just imagine if we had anti aging before Einstein died, he might be here now still helping us. And reconsider just what age does to a person, the older one gets the smarter one gets, and the more wiser, there are exceptions but more so then not right. Take your wild crazed teen, they will not be so wild and crazed with age, which leads to more intelligence and wisdom. If we had anti aging we all would get smarter faster and faster, their would be a quantum leap so to speak of advancements happening all the time then. Those leaps of intelligence would in fact solve our problems, including those of better land use,,and perhaps get us to living in the sky and on the moon. What happens to people and great scientist as we age, surely we get smarter, but then age itself gets in the way so we contribute less, then die. So much knowledge is lost when people die,,things that were never even written in books even gets lost, this is sad to me. We are acquiring more technology and learning more as time goes on,,but we are not advancing with the wisdom of time to use those technologies correctly, as death overtakes us. Then its taught to the little ones,,but they are no wiser, as they dont have the years upon them for the wisdom,,and it all repeats. If we all did not age we would become smarter in time,,each one of us,,we as a species would advance faster and faster even into quantum leaps of intelligence. And we all would become wiser as time would then give us that wisdom. We could then solve so many problems. This is just my opinion of course,,Im sure others would disagree, perhaps they prefer death instead, but frankly Im a bit against death and aging lol.
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