http://xogen.ca/news.php
There has been new updates , it seems like there is some change going on in world politics , maybe not in the U.S however , or maybe ...
This is some good news , after a long silent wait .
Lets just hope they can deliver this fast and not poo-poo it , this needs to be more than a "pilot plant" , its probably 50 times faster and cleaner than all this conventionnal water treatment that takes forever and costs millions in chemicals .
Lol on the "poo-poo" pun, Dankie ;)
The waste water treatment plants are indeed interesting. However what i find much more interesting is what happened to the vehicle-based implementation of the same technology (...a market thousands of times larger than waste-water), a little more than 2 years ago now. If the one "didn't work" , "didn't pan out", or was otherwise "not worth pursuing".... Then it is very interesting to note how the current technology they are touting is THE SAME... By definition, it would "not work" either ;) Oops... A little dichotomy there, but no worries: Its not like "NBC News" will ever be asking them that question, lol.
Canadian Federal or Provincial tax records, and other public financial transaction records might tell an interesting story there; where tight-lipped employees afraid to speak on the record under threat of NDA's may not (although perhaps some HAVE spoken off the record, who knows for sure? It's the dangers you don't know about yet that always get you in the end, lol).
"Gene Elkins", "Greg Etheridge", and "Geraldine Ellison": Fictional character names in a new book about the realities of corporate shelving that someone i know is writing, to be independently published ;) .
I just hope that book never has to published: Because suddenly it all becomes a moot point anyway, and we have on-demand, highly efficient hydroxy production from "resonant-like" HV DC pulses being openly studied by a major U.S. University and reported on in the mainstream.
... Which is all we are asking for.
Great new updates on xogen tech , its going public .
Many other countries are secretly building these as well .
OU is here folks .
http://xogen.ca/
There won't be any "OU" here I'm afraid.
Xogen was gung-ho a few years ago, then suddenly dropped off the map and all went quiet. Then some time ago they re-emerged, but now with a completely different application for the hydrogen they are able to produce.
It's quite obvious I think what really happened here. Xogen had/has a real viable hydrogen-producing technology and were intending on selling this technology in the form of energy replacement or supplementation. Everything from gas heat furnaces to vehicles etc. etc. Of course the applications and potential is enormous.
"Someone" came along and made them an offer that probably went something like this: "Do what you like with your hydrogen technology, but get out of, and stay out of the energy business". They may have even been offered a great deal of "support" to create this waste treatment offshoot of their technology, all in an effort of course to protect the energy giants/cartels and their great profits.
It's unfortunate really that this bullying takes place, but of course it almost makes sense when one sits down and really thinks about what would happen otherwise. There is a way out, but the effort to get there would be huge and would involve a change in culture, philosophy, and of course participation from every faction and nation in the world.
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I heard the israelis are already building this for their water and energy needs .
It only "makes sense" to stop pursuing cheap, clean, and safe energy alternatives for those who are making the Trillions in profits....
To the rest of us, the current situation of energy monopoly, and the secret tax we over-pay for the cost of energy because of it (...and all the other problems we face caused by it, such as "wars for oil").... Is a horrible situation that MUST change.
The horse and buggy was a huge business int he U.S. , that went bust in a few years after Ford came along... No disasters of society followed in that wake, the Bolsheviks didn't take over the world, and sky didn't fall in lol ;)
Passenger trains were an even bigger business... And Trolleys carried tens of millions every day in our cities (...what they call "light rail" today) :
OIL killed those businesses in the U.S. (...other countries were smarter, and held on to their passenger rail systems). And there is clear evidence that "Big Oil", and their friends in the automotive industry, DELIBERATELY killed off the Trolleys... Screwing us royally by causing endless traffic jams in thousands of cities... SO THEY COULD SELL MORE OIL AND CARS... So they could create their monopoly on energy, complete their monopolies on transportation and "public electric utilities" (...which are really nearly all owned by corporations). Does it matter what brand of car we drive, what tires we use, what gasoline we purchase? Lol no. All that matters is we are stuck having to buy them.
Amazing how traffic jams, who profit the oil corps most, are always an "insolvable" problem year after year, huh? To the point where we don't even question them any more.. We just assume it is an "inevitable fact of life" that "can't be solved"...
We can go to the moon, but we can't solve traffic jams ??? How friggin STUPID are we lol?
Take the huge profits out of commuter traffic, and see how quickly it IS solved!
Think about that a minute: We are suffering miserable traffic jams in nearly all of our cities, only because THEY WANT US TO.
Would you Commuters like to have your "two hours a day" MONOPOLY ENERGY TAX back for your own "free time" use? Lol i know when i lived in the city, i would of loved that! Those endless hours spend in traffic jams were a huge and tragic waste, causing untold pollution... Wasting millions of barrels of oil a year... And costing us several hundred each in more gasoline and repairs: ADD THAT EXTRA MONEY UP OVER MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
... Forced on us by criminal sociopaths who would DO ANYTHING to empty our pockets of more cash and maintain the control they have over us all.
This idea that ending oil's reign would be "a bad idea" is puerile.
The fact is, that a hundred years ago many folks who used to be in the carriage trade eventually became millionaires in the auto business selling and servicing cars. There is no logical reason a similar orderly transition could not be done today over a few years' time... And breaking the energy monopolies, and lowering the cost of energy, will benefit Small Business greatly, and actually allow Capitalism Free Markets to WORK AGAIN; just like it created a manufacturing boom back 100 years ago... But on a much larger scale now... Restoring our Middle Class from the slow slide to poverty and "corporate feudalism" that we are experiencing now (...and not so "slow" these days, either). This new manufacturing boom will take the control of our economy back from the lying traitorous criminals and degenerate gamblers of Wall Street and the international banks.... And return it where it belongs: Main Street.
We see many "people" here that are always trying to tell us that free energy is "false".... Lol this site is infested with them now, seemingly more every day (why they spend so much time hanging out at a site dedicated to something they obviously DESPISE is an interesting question)... And when their denials don't work any more, then they start with the FEAR MONGERING.
And how some of them love to fear-monger about what will happen when the INEVITABLE finally arrives... When oil and coal are no longer the fuels of choice on this planet... And the world monopoly on energy is finally broken... The implied meme they are trying to push with this fear being:
"DON'T STUDY THESE TECHNOLOGIES !"
Why are they pushing this meme so hard here... Seemingly in every thread?
Because their usual methods of suppression don't work with Open Source... So all they can do is try to convince us to stop on our own.
So the only "Bad Idea" here, is listening to them.
LOL dont come here whining because nothing is moving forward with the TPU .
Feel free to study the TPU and Don Smith devices all you want ... Post your results ... Post your little paint drawings ... Stop being a bunch of little ''linkers'' , ''theorists'' and ''2 $ random coil assemblers'' . And stop hyping up lies and exagerated claims and wasting peoples time. And dont expect to not get insulted and laughed @ on a public forum . If you cant do it , you cant do it , dont blame anybody else . Blame the system if it makes you feel better ...
Feel free to become a self-educated electrical genius and reverse engineer who is TOO BUSY FOR THESE FORUMS! Do it , solve that puzzle ! You have all the time on your hands !
What are you going on about Dankie?
That rant was really quite unintelligible.
Didn't they ever tell you, that personal attacks can't possibly work when they make no sense lol?
Fact is, they don't work anyway.... But please try, you guys! It makes it easier to paint the attacker, and via implication his points, to look completely imbecilic... It's especially fun to watch when we get them to do this to themselves... and all we have to do is point it out for all the others to see and judge for themselves.
They REALLY hate that, because it steals the away the only tactic available to incompetents ;)
So what does the TPU have to do with this anyway?
These TPU dogs are feeling happy now .
After me bashing the TPU for many months now something has finally came through , lit up led by EM . There is still lots to do but I admit it is interresting .
Yeah an incomponent like you couldnt do something 'not randomly' . Like I said , the TPU dogs were pathetic all along , wtf were they yappin for all those years . And now they have someting to feel proud of , oh Dear !!!
Quote from: jibbguy on November 04, 2009, 05:01:40 PM
It only "makes sense" to stop pursuing cheap, clean, and safe energy alternatives for those who are making the Trillions in profits....
To the rest of us, the current situation of energy monopoly, and the secret tax we over-pay for the cost of energy because of it (...and all the other problems we face caused by it, such as "wars for oil").... Is a horrible situation that MUST change.
The horse and buggy was a huge business int he U.S. , that went bust in a few years after Ford came along... No disasters of society followed in that wake, the Bolsheviks didn't take over the world, and sky didn't fall in lol ;)
Passenger trains were an even bigger business... And Trolleys carried tens of millions every day in our cities (...what they call "light rail" today) :
OIL killed those businesses in the U.S. (...other countries were smarter, and held on to their passenger rail systems). And there is clear evidence that "Big Oil", and their friends in the automotive industry, DELIBERATELY killed off the Trolleys... Screwing us royally by causing endless traffic jams in thousands of cities... SO THEY COULD SELL MORE OIL AND CARS... So they could create their monopoly on energy, complete their monopolies on transportation and "public electric utilities" (...which are really nearly all owned by corporations). Does it matter what brand of car we drive, what tires we use, what gasoline we purchase? Lol no. All that matters is we are stuck having to buy them.
Amazing how traffic jams, who profit the oil corps most, are always an "insolvable" problem year after year, huh? To the point where we don't even question them any more.. We just assume it is an "inevitable fact of life" that "can't be solved"...
We can go to the moon, but we can't solve traffic jams ??? How friggin STUPID are we lol?
Take the huge profits out of commuter traffic, and see how quickly it IS solved!
Think about that a minute: We are suffering miserable traffic jams in nearly all of our cities, only because THEY WANT US TO.
Would you Commuters like to have your "two hours a day" MONOPOLY ENERGY TAX back for your own "free time" use? Lol i know when i lived in the city, i would of loved that! Those endless hours spend in traffic jams were a huge and tragic waste, causing untold pollution... Wasting millions of barrels of oil a year... And costing us several hundred each in more gasoline and repairs: ADD THAT EXTRA MONEY UP OVER MILLIONS OF PEOPLE.
... Forced on us by criminal sociopaths who would DO ANYTHING to empty our pockets of more cash and maintain the control they have over us all.
This idea that ending oil's reign would be "a bad idea" is puerile.
The fact is, that a hundred years ago many folks who used to be in the carriage trade eventually became millionaires in the auto business selling and servicing cars. There is no logical reason a similar orderly transition could not be done today over a few years' time... And breaking the energy monopolies, and lowering the cost of energy, will benefit Small Business greatly, and actually allow Capitalism Free Markets to WORK AGAIN; just like it created a manufacturing boom back 100 years ago... But on a much larger scale now... Restoring our Middle Class from the slow slide to poverty and "corporate feudalism" that we are experiencing now (...and not so "slow" these days, either). This new manufacturing boom will take the control of our economy back from the lying traitorous criminals and degenerate gamblers of Wall Street and the international banks.... And return it where it belongs: Main Street.
We see many "people" here that are always trying to tell us that free energy is "false".... Lol this site is infested with them now, seemingly more every day (why they spend so much time hanging out at a site dedicated to something they obviously DESPISE is an interesting question)... And when their denials don't work any more, then they start with the FEAR MONGERING.
And how some of them love to fear-monger about what will happen when the INEVITABLE finally arrives... When oil and coal are no longer the fuels of choice on this planet... And the world monopoly on energy is finally broken... The implied meme they are trying to push with this fear being:
"DON'T STUDY THESE TECHNOLOGIES !"
Why are they pushing this meme so hard here... Seemingly in every thread?
Because their usual methods of suppression don't work with Open Source... So all they can do is try to convince us to stop on our own.
So the only "Bad Idea" here, is listening to them.
some of what you say here is true.
cheap energy is N/A here in this world because the only way to make it effective is research which costs time and money for somebodies time and effort.
a world without money uses credits and a world without credits won't work, nobody will work for others for free forever, if you work for free it is limited to how much time you want to squander on others besides saving your own life, it is simple survival.
you can feed people bread to keep them alive but if you don't dip into the bread box you will starve to death. it is impossible to feed others without feeding yourself in return.
people can't live off of bread alone. this world is based on consumerism, the whole world. a world without money or credits will fall back to primitive times.
hopefully an asteroid doesn't kill us because we chose not to pursue it. rolling the dice I see. the human species goes extinct because they didn't have the required technology to survive.
the entire universe is built for one thing, the ultimate survival game.
do you feel like a rat in a maze within a zoo, you should because everybody is exactly that.
the last person or thing standing could be good or evil(philosophically), both have a 50/50 chance at being the last to stand, but the end result is always death.
this Universe is very cruel. step outside your own world, you will see.
I purposely live in a smaller town, it's more like a village but hey, if I get a half a dozen vehicles down my road it's a major traffic jam. the crime rate is actually quite rare, there aren't any drive by shootings and only two people in my town has been hung since 1849. very quiet town. especially in winter.
my only advice, don't live in large cities. 'period'
sorry but I needed to express myself.
Jerry 8)
Thanks for clearing that up Dankie.
i have been following those threads for years now, but i admit that i haven't been there lately (our "Free Energy Facebook Group" and the conventional alternative energy projects i am working on are taking up more and more of my time it seems).
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=55551307954
So i am very glad to hear that the skilled, brave, innovative, and dedicated Open Source Engineers and Researchers working hard in this field have had a recent breakthough with TPU ... In these scientific regions marked "There be Dragons Here" on the map... None are "minor", all are worth researching, and all results lead to our greater knowledge.
That's why these silly calls we often see here to "Stop Studying!" are so ridiculous... And worse; designed to stop progress, to stop the greater acquisition of scientific knowledge.
... BTW, it's spelled "incompetent", m8 ;)
No hard feelings Dankie... We all know your "style" by now, and i am sure your English is a lot better than my German (which i learned from my friends in Munchen, so no one understands me when i speak it hehehe).