It makes no sense to me why the goverment would wanna kill off good taxable sheeple .
However it makes sense to me that they would want the awaken heretics to die .
For that reason I will be taking the swine flu , it is a deception , it is a way to filter out the enemys .
Will you ask for the Free Energy Scientist Special Edition?
I will take it when I stand by and watch the maker of the "vaccin" to take his dose from the same batch. Surely, this will be the batch that does not have the live virus in it that kills Czech ferrets.
Anyway, if the wrapper says "mercury content", I won't need any. No flu wave ever got me really ill, natural or invented.
It will get ugly when a loved one gets ill from the vaccin, let alone forced vaccination. No more Mr. Nice Guy.
Quote from: Cloxxki on October 03, 2009, 01:42:12 PM
Will you ask for the Free Energy Scientist Special Edition?
I will take it when I stand by and watch the maker of the "vaccin" to take his dose from the same batch. Surely, this will be the batch that does not have the live virus in it that kills Czech ferrets.
Anyway, if the wrapper says "mercury content", I won't need any. No flu wave ever got me really ill, natural or invented.
It will get ugly when a loved one gets ill from the vaccin, let alone forced vaccination. No more Mr. Nice Guy.
There is no way they are gonna kill every single person in massachussets .
No No , they wanna keep their nerd slaves alive and well , but they cant really explain to them their strategy , nobody will explain the truth .
If you better understood economics, you'd know by now that the vast majority of 'real wealth' has already been plundered, most of it long ago.
Then, very few of the 'nerd slaves' are required for their plan to work.
As it is, way too many 'dangerous useless eaters' exist by their reckoning.
It's come down to 'their way or the highway'...
I say, take the High Way, you will be glad you did.
Blessings in Yeshua,
MR
Quote from: TechStuf on October 03, 2009, 03:21:13 PM
If you better understood economics, you'd know by now that the vast majority of 'real wealth' has already been plundered, most of it long ago.
Then, very few of the 'nerd slaves' are required for their plan to work.
As it is, way too many 'dangerous useless eaters' exist by their reckoning.
It's come down to 'their way or the highway'...
I say, take the High Way, you will be glad you did.
Blessings in Yeshua,
MR
I wonder how insurance companies (OK, evil by themselves) are going to be dealing with this.
If people get ill, they have their insurance for good meds (this is more than a standard vaccin freely distributed). When they die, these people are worth money.
So, I suppose I wonder how interested insurance companies are to get new clients. Or is the expected decline of the dollar part of the plan? So, you have a life insurance for a millions bucks. Let's print some additional zero's on this bill here then, and it will be yours.
When the insurers go belly up, the outrage from the people will be even greater.
Either we are seeing things that aren't real, and big pharma, big oil, and their governments really are that lame, or it's all real and it's a very badly thought out plan anyway. It just doesn't add up, either way of the story.
"their way" is to dupe you .
The wealth has been taken and thats a good thing , they dont like you have it and that doesnt make them despise you more , in fact they love it .
They want some good caucasian slaves , good obedient ones , not the youtubers , they want the workers that are too busy to know this stuff get it ? The "normal" people ...
Its pretty simple that they are lining you up and knowing exactly what you stand for with this little vaccine thing .
Thats just my opinion , look @ all the anti-vaccine propaganda , its everywhere , it took on a life of its own .
dankie, let me ask you this, you say they need all of their sheeple, Why?
For taxes is your answer, but let me pose this, what if what they needed could be got from far fewer people.
The law of profit maximization dictates that if you can get the same effect (profit) with many fewer transactions and or problems, then that will yield higher returns.
So if they could maintain themselves with less why would they not do it?
Further more, with a world population growing, and oil consumption growing per person, which leads to a steep acceleration of oil and other natural resource consumption, what do you do to curb this? They believe that the earth has limited ability to supply resources. They see the growth as threatening their access to those resources. They see that we use far more than they do. and they see that it doesnt take all that many of us to suit their needs now. In the past we needed lots of people because they didnt have the machines to do many of the required tasks. Now there are machines that can replace many people, and those machines require far fewer resources. So you can now replace many multitudes of people with machines, with a some people to maintain them and to do the tasks not yet conquered by a machine. At this time it would be critical for them to thin the herd, for their own presenvation.
How do you not see that.
When the deer over populate, you send hunters.
When your cows get to be too many, you slaughter them, more than normal.
Until you've been around people who have tremendous wealth you can't understand how they look upon the world.
Most of us are a waste of skin to them.
And if the dollar has little value, what good is taxes? The ultimate tax is your time directly, and your submission to their will.
if you think they have something you want, you will do what they say, if you think that they can force you physically, you will do what they say. They know this, and they use this.
Try telling a cop that you are not going to obey his unlawful request, and see what happens.
the world has never been a fuzzy warm place.
The struggle for survival is ever present, we have evolved from outright fighting to a system of contrivances, and manipulations. But the reason is still the same.
Its the reason that some people feel compelled to have billions of dollars, its useless, more than they need, but they still do it.
Plenty of sunshine (no sunblock) is all thats needed to ward off swine flu. It's all about "vitamin D" (which is a prohormone), you need exercise and sunshine to get good levels, supplements dont work. To summarise what I think: fuck the vaccine and fuck the virus!
Flu vaccines contain thimerosal. Thimerosal contains mercury. Mercury is a potent neurotoxin.
I was also told by a medical professional that almost all flu vaccines are made with egg white.
I wouldn't do it, but then again to each his own.
Good luck with that!
is anybody here keeping up with all the clinical trials of the H1N1 vaccine?
1. http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT00944073 583 trial patients.
2. http://www3.niaid.nih.gov/news/QA/vteuH1N1qa.htm
3. http://www.hhs.gov/news/press/2009pres/09/20090911a.html
4. http://whsc.emory.edu/home/news/releases/2009/08/pediatric-h1n1-vaccine-clinical-trial.html#
5. http://www.cdc.gov/h1n1flu/vaccination/public/vaccination_qa_pub.htm
6. http://www.nih.gov/news/health/sep2009/niaid-09.htm
7. http://www.drugs.com/clinical_trials/sinovac-reports-top-line-preliminary-results-h1n1-vaccine-clinical-trials-7923.html
8. http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/09/090911133700.htm#
9. http://www.pharmaceutical-business-review.com/news/sinovac_unveils_update_on_clinical_trial_for_h1n1_vaccine_trials_090803
10. http://www.flu.gov/
do the hard research, there is lots of testing results already which I have supplied in the above links to confirm the vaccine is safe as any other flu shot. even though it may not be needed is up to you and your family to decide, the current vaccine has no signs of GB reaction like the live H1N1 vaccine of the 70's, the 2009 H1N1 vaccine is a dead virus. GB in cases of the 70's vaccine showed symptoms with in 3 days of injection. current volunteers of the H1N1 vaccine have been injected since August shows no alerting signs of GB reactions.
also, Congress has allowed the public to sue the pharmaceutical industry in cases of vaccine related fatalities and or handicaps involved with bad batches.
also, I think I would be more worried about Thimerosal rather than the dead virus but I must say that almost 'all' virus vaccines contain Thimerosal and there has been many millions of people who get the seasonal flu shot every year that contain Thimerosal.
Jerry
I think an appropriate response to reply #10 is most succinctly stated in a comment made to the story below since over 1/2 the sites above end in .gov :
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/history/world/1875-a-brief-history-of-government-immunizations
' "SURE YOU CAN TRUST THE GOVERNMENT" JUST ASK A NATIVE AMERICAN (or Canadian) INDIAN!!!!! '
The story has some nice quotes from health and vaccine professionals the world over.
exxcomm0n said:
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' "SURE YOU CAN TRUST THE GOVERNMENT" JUST ASK A NATIVE AMERICAN (or Canadian) INDIAN!!!!! '
At the risk of being potentially politically incorrect, whatever that is now: As a Native American myself, I concur. With sarcasm. >:( :-X
I'm not getting a flu shot because I've lived through every flu epidemic since 1950 and never had the flu, even once.
Would the thread starter like to start a poll to ask, "Who would get a flu shot,
especially a Swine Flu shot?"
--Lee
Quote from: exxcomm0n on October 04, 2009, 09:36:27 AM
I think an appropriate response to reply #10 is most succinctly stated in a comment made to the story below since over 1/2 the sites above end in .gov :
it is not the Government that is evil, it is the evil within the good people that make up the Government. people vote for bad apples because the rotten part is covered up by the skin of the fruit.
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http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/history/world/1875-a-brief-history-of-government-immunizations
in the bottom paragraph of the article you have given I concure with 100%.
the problem is that "the people" are both good and evil and the Government is made of people. so naturally the Government contains corruption. but what about the good people of the Government, are they to be pasted with an evil label because they are apart of the system? is there more evil in this world than good?
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' "SURE YOU CAN TRUST THE GOVERNMENT" JUST ASK A NATIVE AMERICAN (or Canadian) INDIAN!!!!! '
if you own a home with property here in the United States of America you can simply donate your property to the local native tribe that use to own it.
give your land back to the Indians and then tell them you are sorry and then move back to the lands from once your ancestors came from.
give back your land to the sovereign nation! I used to work for 2 different sovereign nations and there is corruption even there but not all is corrupt.
go to the Indians and tell them that you are sorry for what your ancestors did to them and give them everything you own made in America back to them. I bet you won't. same goes for Canada. if you don't then you are just as bad as your statement.
to add some more salt to the GREAT wound.
"SURE YOU CAN TRUST EXXCOMM0N)" JUST ASK A NATIVE AMERICAN (or Canadian) INDIAN!!!!!
To help it go down better, it's best to chew on it awhile before one swallows.
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The story has some nice quotes from health and vaccine professionals the world over.
Like?
Jerry 8)
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 04, 2009, 02:03:45 PM
it is not the Government that is evil, it is the evil within the good people that make up the Government. people vote for bad apples because the rotten part is covered up by the skin of the fruit.
K then, which "piece of fruit" have you voted for lately that had the best "skin of the fruit"? Lately, it's been more which rotten piece of fruit will sicken me the least if I eat it?
Voter turnout in the last 2 decades before this prior one seemed to point out that most don't like eating
ANY rotten fruit.
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 04, 2009, 02:03:45 PM
in the bottom paragraph of the article you have given I concure with 100%.
the problem is that "the people" are both good and evil and the Government is made of people. so naturally the Government contains corruption. but what about the good people of the Government, are they to be pasted with an evil label because they are apart of the system? is there more evil in this world than good?
This does not jibe with your above statement "it is the evil within the good people that make up the Government...", and I find it nowhere in the article I cited in my post #10 that was:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/history/world/1875-a-brief-history-of-government-immunizations
I think you may have been looking at another tab in your browser, and not the one from this site.
When is evil to your fellow man appropriate or good? When has it ever been? Does it absolve the "good people that do evil things" that it is what happens in gov't?
Does that work for priests accused of molestation too? Should I absolve the church that shuffled them around after complaints so they could do it again somewhere else and save themselves (the church) from embarrassment?
Evil is evil, good is good.
If there weren't a delineation between the the two words they wouldn't have diametrically opposed definitions and we wouldn't be able to use them to describe different things. This is the nature of language.
As to the "good" people, is it "good" for them to sit back and allow evil to be done to their fellow man that they are responsible for since that's what they are in office for and who elected them into the position where they could allow "evil" to be done through inaction?
Does that still allow them to be seen as "good"?
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 04, 2009, 02:03:45 PM
if you own a home with property here in the United States of America you can simply donate your property to the local native tribe that use to own it.
give your land back to the Indians and then tell them you are sorry and then move back to the lands from once your ancestors came from.
_I_ did nothing other than be the offspring of others that believed what the gov't and/or popular history told them. Does that they made bad, "or evil" decisions mean that I had a direct hand in it?
Do you count on your offspring to rectify the evil you may do and that makes it all right?
I cannot absolve those that came before me for their evils, I can only make sure that I do not make the same mistakes and
TRY to teach my children to not make the same mistakes of my fore fathers.
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 04, 2009, 02:03:45 PM
give back your land to the sovereign nation! I used to work for 2 different sovereign nations and there is corruption even there but not all is corrupt.
go to the Indians and tell them that you are sorry for what your ancestors did to them and give them everything you own made in America back to them. I bet you won't. same goes for Canada. if you don't then you are just as bad as your statement.
It is if the corruption is allowed to stay hidden by the "good" people that could otherwise speak out.
Your argument seems to point to a completely erroneous belief that I am responsible for my fore fathers. How can I be? I wasn't here yet.
As to giving back anything made in America that I have, I think that most would be hard pressed to find a worthy amount of goods they own that didn't have "Made In China" on them these days.
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The story has some nice quotes from health and vaccine professionals the world over.
Like?
You "read the story" as you evidenced above by supposedly quoting it. I suggest you use the link I reposted in this reply and see if they are the same.
If you cannot recognize the quotes from Jonas Salk, Dr. True Ott, and the 'WHO advisor (that) told the London Times in an article entitled "Smallpox vaccine ‘triggered Aids virus." ’, I do think you are confused as to the content of the site I posted.
Please try to read it again.
Quote from: exxcomm0n on October 04, 2009, 03:24:10 PM
K then, which "piece of fruit" have you voted for lately that had the best "skin of the fruit"? Lately, it's been more which rotten piece of fruit will sicken me the least if I eat it?
I simply love intellectual arguments, besides that of Barbarianism of course.
it is very difficult to find fruits that don't have scars on their skin, sometimes it can be rather frustrating to choose one only to find out there is a worm hidden under the skin that rotted it. maybe that choice label sticker is covering up a worm hole, you never know unless you do some deep investigations.
as far as voting is concerned, I have seen scars with every political opponent and just about every human has scars, some are really good at hiding scars.
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Voter turnout in the last 2 decades before this prior one seemed to point out that most don't like eating ANY rotten fruit.
neither do I.
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This does not jibe with your above statement "it is the evil within the good people that make up the Government...", and I find it nowhere in the article I cited in my post #10 that was:
http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/history/world/1875-a-brief-history-of-government-immunizations
I think you may have been looking at another tab in your browser, and not the one from this site.
no, I was simply adding my comment about the last paragraph in the article.
last paragraph;
Americans should carefully educate themselves regarding the disease and the vaccine â€" considering the risks of both. But no matter what happens, the government should cease its propaganda and the mass vaccination campaign, with everything that involves. It must obey the Constitution and allow citizens to make their own decisions with their families and doctors.
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When is evil to your fellow man appropriate or good? When has it ever been? Does it absolve the "good people that do evil things" that it is what happens in gov't?
there is +6.7 billion people on this planet, it is impossible to filter out all the bad apples from the Bushels. it will get worse.
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Does that work for priests accused of molestation too? Should I absolve the church that shuffled them around after complaints so they could do it again somewhere else and save themselves (the church) from embarrassment?
some wolves who decide to wear sheep's clothing to get to the flock are mentally ill. some don't want to admit it was their fault for falling asleep and allowing the wolves to get into the herd.
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Evil is evil, good is good.
If there weren't a delineation between the the two words they wouldn't have diametrically opposed definitions and we wouldn't be able to use them to describe different things. This is the nature of language.
if you are Human, you are both good and evil. it is inherent. some people are just better at controlling that evil within them than others.
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As to the "good" people, is it "good" for them to sit back and allow evil to be done to their fellow man that they are responsible for since that's what they are in office for and who elected them into the position where they could allow "evil" to be done through inaction?
Does that still allow them to be seen as "good"?
sometimes it is to late to solve the problem because the problem was hiding itself for the opportune moment. there are good people that do turn in the corrupt, that's where the media makes all their great headlines.
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_I_ did nothing other than be the offspring of others that believed what the gov't and/or popular history told them. Does that they made bad, "or evil" decisions mean that I had a direct hand in it?
Do you count on your offspring to rectify the evil you may do and that makes it all right?
do you feel guilty for the blood on the hands of the conquerors? it is like someone coming up to you in your car, punch you in the face, hold a pistol to your head and then shoot you and then hijack your car, 200 years later your car was found, does that mean the car still belongs to the hijacker?
settlers hijacked these lands, don't you want to give back the property that was stolen from the Indians?
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I cannot absolve those that came before me for their evils, I can only make sure that I do not make the same mistakes and TRY to teach my children to not make the same mistakes of my fore fathers.
no, if you actually cared, you would give back the land to the Indians, otherwise you are just as bad as the hijacker, the only difference is that the hijacker handed down stolen property to his kids. is it still stolen property?
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It is if the corruption is allowed to stay hidden by the "good" people that could otherwise speak out.
I am sure that this does occur among friends/relatives within the system, it is like a police officer who tries to hide his or hers own child's crime simply to save face and or even trying to help your best friend get out of jail for stealing bubble gum.
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Your argument seems to point to a completely erroneous belief that I am responsible for my fore fathers. How can I be? I wasn't here yet.
As to giving back anything made in America that I have, I think that most would be hard pressed to find a worthy amount of goods they own that didn't have "Made In China" on them these days.
chew on it a bit more, keep that which was made elsewhere and give back everything made in America, hand over the deed to your local Indian tribe and then ask them for a plane ticket back to your ancestral lands, simple as that.
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You "read the story" as you evidenced above by supposedly quoting it. I suggest you use the link I reposted in this reply and see if they are the same.
I didn't quote it, I added my own comment 'about' the last paragraph of the article.
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If you cannot recognize the quotes from Jonas Salk, Dr. True Ott, and the 'WHO advisor (that) told the London Times in an article entitled "Smallpox vaccine ‘triggered Aids virus." ’, I do think you are confused as to the content of the site I posted.
not nearly as bad as injecting Plutonium into willing subjects but it is still bad research, research just needs more filtering.
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Please try to read it again.
no need, I read it 3 times already. lol
now, lets get back to the topic at hand and have a nice discussion and forget our petty differences.
Jerry 8)
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 04, 2009, 04:44:03 PM
I simply love intellectual arguments, besides that of Barbarianism of course.
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Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 04, 2009, 04:44:03 PM
now, lets get back to the topic at hand and have a nice discussion and forget our petty differences.
You mean like the petty difference between good and evil? The petty difference between committing a crime, and being the offspring of a criminal? The petty difference between being a righteous man that preaches about living a better life and someone who accuses you of sin while committing one of the most horrible acts a man can think of?
Yeah, those might be seen as petty to some, but I thought it worth my time to try to try to make the world a less ignorant place.
I'm sorry if I don't agree with the sites you provided about the successful clinical trials of the vaccine when they're mostly the same body politic that is running a campaign for the enrichment of a company that applied for the patent for the H1N1 vaccine a full year before the first reported case, and approved that patent a month before it as well?
I'm not sure how that's the makings of a nice discussion, but I wish you good luck with that.
Quote from: exxcomm0n on October 04, 2009, 08:51:57 PM
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You mean like the petty difference between good and evil? The petty difference between committing a crime, and being the offspring of a criminal? The petty difference between being a righteous man that preaches about living a better life and someone who accuses you of sin while committing one of the most horrible acts a man can think of?
what is that? killing people at the abortion clinic? fanaticism at best, there are to many mental ill self righteous people in this world who think they're doing God a favor. do us all a favor and don't do God no favors, you don't even know if God was a construct of ancestral imagination based on Hallucinogenic drugs which were very common among priests of those times, one such drug was called Salvia, do a youtube on Salvia and watch them get bombed out.
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Yeah, those might be seen as petty to some, but I thought it worth my time to try to try to make the world a less ignorant place.
that is an impossible task even on the internet, but good luck.
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I'm sorry if I don't agree with the sites you provided about the successful clinical trials of the vaccine when they're mostly the same body politic that is running a campaign for the enrichment of a company that applied for the patent for the H1N1 vaccine a full year before the first reported case, and approved that patent a month before it as well?
volunteer for the shot and prove me wrong, but of course, I can already predict the outcome on this one.
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I'm not sure how that's the makings of a nice discussion, but I wish you good luck with that.
you too, God Bless. be good and thank you.
Jerry 8)
Shoot it up Jerry, remember doctors also said the cocaine was great, and smoking was good for you.
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Please Watch/listen to this. Very informative. It comes in 5 parts.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbFxV_C8Yw4&feature=related
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 04, 2009, 09:45:21 PM
what is that? killing people at the abortion clinic? fanaticism at best, there are to many mental ill self righteous people in this world who think they're doing God a favor. do us all a favor and don't do God no favors, you don't even know if God was a construct of ancestral imagination based on Hallucinogenic drugs which were very common among priests of those times, one such drug was called Salvia, do a youtube on Salvia and watch them get bombed out.
How the above quote have any relevance to what I said?
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 04, 2009, 09:45:21 PM
that is an impossible task even on the internet, but good luck.
You make a good object lesson of that Jerry, but if I should give up then it looks like you're correct and some people that could have otherwise have been educated will take for granted what they always have without thinking of a differing viewpoint.
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 04, 2009, 09:45:21 PM
volunteer for the shot and prove me wrong, but of course, I can already predict the outcome on this one.
You think it will help, that's cool. Keep us up to date on your health after you've given solid proof other than your "word" you have received it. That'll make for a convincing argument.
Otherwise, keep coming back, avoiding questions put to you, and trying to confuse the issues discussed with your beliefs.
Those actions do a much better job than I of proving the quality of your thoughts.
Quote from: dankie on October 03, 2009, 01:27:33 PM
It makes no sense to me why the goverment would wanna kill off good taxable sheeple .
However it makes sense to me that they would want the awaken heretics to die .
For that reason I will be taking the swine flu , it is a deception , it is a way to filter out the enemys .
I agree . Its a Fix for somthing that got lose . I took it because i want to Die of Very old age not in the next year of H1N1.It was a Nasel Mist . Nothing to it . no Mercury , no walking backwards . Just Better Health and well being . Another government screw up avaded once again .
gadget
This may be of interest when considering the agenda of 'the powers that be' behind the scenes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQitYbrZJgA
Regards...
I still think I may have gotten it last year. I also think it's the same old flu that been around for a while. Likely just the rabble-rousers doing what they do, rousing the rabble. Someones trying to secure their own future at the expense of others.
I'm a first responder but I'm not getting a shot. I'd quit first.
You folks do what you wish.
I achieved immunity to H1N1 the old fashioned way. Things still don't work the way they did two weeks ago.
Same ol' flu? Uh huh.... sure... Wait till the bug bites. For some it'll be almost nothing. For more than a few nothing will matter anymore.
If you just don't seem to feel right and it doesn't feel like a flu bug... well, welcome to the growing group of those who couldn't get the vaccine - or thought they didn't need it.
Just stay away from my friends and family until they all have the shot.
Somehow I don't think I need to worry much about posters on this thread and similar threads. You probably don't get out much anyway ;)
Too bad. Mother Nature is good at cooking up these little critters for culling the herds. Don't make her build one that can seek out those living in front of a glowing screen.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCadkv_8_5Q
;D
Was looking for Dankie's Holiday greetings
And this popped up
The last time
And again vitamin D is big news
https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-24-pharmaceutical-factory-hydroxychloroquine-mysteriously-explodes-fire.html#
'they' want to claim that only a vac will help. even with all the case studies that had shown that these treatments work, they get shut down by propaganda and now this.
Mags
https://nypost.com/2020/10/20/some-covid-19-vaccines-could-increase-hiv-risk-researchers/
Mags
Vitamine D and a very large number of studies.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ha2mLz-Xdpg
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