http://globalfreeenergy.info/2009/10/04/two-most-important-crop-circles-ever/ (http://globalfreeenergy.info/2009/10/04/two-most-important-crop-circles-ever/)
The crop circle message says,
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Beware of the bearers of false gifts and broken promises.
Much pain, but there is still time.
Believe there is still good out there.
We oppose the deceivers.
Conduit is closing.
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This forum is a lot better now, but still some good researchers / experimenters are still being deceived by fake claims to distract and discourage.
If you believe in crop circles, your'e nuts.
Quote from: YeahRight on October 05, 2009, 02:08:20 AM
If you believe in crop circles, your'e nuts.
This is a huge 3D crop circle Paul is talking about. Not possible to do by human.
It makes you think. I could not even cut a garden hedge streight!
Yes, perhaps this one is 'difficult' to do, but have you ever considered the source itself being falsified.
Nowadays any type of footage or video is easy to falsify by the gifted computer user.
Just a couple of photos, some witnesses and a 'cool' story doesn't come anywhere near my book of evidence.
Both of these crop circles are well known, and have been on television shows, studied by a lot of people.
Most people have no idea of the scientific work being done in crop circle, such as biophysics. One of many examples is that in legit crop circles there must have been an intense energy to cause the effect. It is easy to tell the difference between a man made and legit crop circle. So far nobody has been able to replicate a legit crop circle.
Here's a place to *start* ones research in crop circles -->
http://www.cropcirclesecrets.org/biophysical.html (http://www.cropcirclesecrets.org/biophysical.html)
After one does sufficient scientific research in crop circles, they will know there is definitely something odd occurring in legit crop circles.
I thought this crop circle was pretty amazing:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027178/Easy-pi-Astrophysicist-solves-riddle-Britains-complex-crop-circle.html
Very slick and neatly done, I thought. As far as humans not being able to create these crop circles, I am not so sure. We are pretty resourceful and intelligent people. I have great faith in the ability of humans to create complex deceptions.
Do i believe in aliens from another world? Personally I am still not convinced. When (and if) they land, then I will have to eat my words. Until then...
The problem in these areas is that it requires a lot of time in research for one to begin to see the evidence, and it is overwhelming evidence. Can you plop the evidence on a table, and have someone see it in a few minutes. No. Too much data. Takes a long time. And that's something that skeptics will never do, spend years of their time doing the research.
Same goes for other areas such as Ghost hunting. Like I've told people for a long time, you need to join a local Ghost hunting team, go to all of the hunting events, and given sufficient time (as in years) you *will* see your proof, period! I'm talking about solid large objects inside a closed area that will move a large distance. A lot of these events are caught on tape; e.g., the Ghost Hunters tv series. Okay, so great, we see a chair or picture frame, etc. clearly moving on TV, but skeptics will not change over night, and they'll always doubt something. So the problem, once again, is the person needs to see this live, not on TV. There are a lot of ghost hunting groups, in almost every major city. I can promise anyone that if you can be open-minded (very important state of mind due to the nature of reality otherwise such events collapse), you will witness such events in person.
Paul
Quote from: PaulLowrance on October 05, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
... And that's something that skeptics will never do, spend years of their time doing the research.
Quote from: PaulLowrance on October 05, 2009, 11:21:00 AM
...but skeptics will not change over night, and they'll always doubt something. So the problem, once again, is the person needs to see this live, not on TV.
Paul
These statements are very true, and I agree with you. I have neither the time nor the motivation to investigate such things. Most people are the same way. Though I could probably bend to seeing proof on TV, it needs to be a major event involving thousands of people as witnesses and major broadcast coverage. Even better, I would like to personally know someone in the crowd who witnesses such an event. A firsthand account sounds too unnerving to me. I think I would rather pass.
The proof must be very obvious and concrete. Not blurry pictures by single observers and the shifting through of random eyewitness accounts. That would go a long way toward convincing me.
If that is what you think as important you are incorrect. They all are and they area all defining something it seems. When you put them all together something happens - they are parts of something - a machine! Each one is a system part - methods - output - input - geometry - maths - physics.
I don't doubt an alien existence given life has its way of creating more and more intelligence as a survival factor. Once complex language and reasoning evolves then that species is then the master of its own destiny. It happened on earth twice (Hominids - Neanderthals - Homosapiens - 2 distinct species - both with complex language and reasoning - 1 got smarter!)....
and it could happen again and again. Earth itself is merely a grain of sand on a beach and of the desert. The odds that we are alone in this game of life is so remote its spectacular to hear anyone reason that we are. The universe is infinite = infinite evolution. Sometimes far superior to how well we dress ourselves as being and with better defenses and so on.
If they are out there exploring as we should be then Earth is great source of fresh water. Other than that I can't see why or why not. As for crop circles I fail to see why Humans would bother themselves apart from the odd copy cat. These things are as big as football stadiums. Some as big as airports. Why would really bother with such scale?
If it is humans - get a frikken job!
There is always this..
http://www.cropcircleship.com
If you follow it you might be surprised.
Most of the reasoning in here is what is being discussed on this board.
Almost all of the numbers and systems encountered are similar.
Magnetics, electrons, chemistry, resonance, flux, electron gates, gravitational spin, gravity vortex, magnetic motors etc its all in there. There is even a rodin coil. The Ship itself could actually work but this guy is all alone or with few helpers. What if its true? Would it really hurt to even try? Beautiful!
Enjoy...
Quote from: pcjunkieThe universe is infinite = infinite evolution.
You have the correct! ;D The leading theory, M-theory, is correct that there was something before the big bang. Something did not magically come from absolutely nothing at all. Imagine what could evolve in 99999999999999 billion years. How about 9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9^9 billion years? Fill this entire page with "9^9^". Replace that with the number of grains of sand in the entire world, and that's nothing compared to Infinite! It's endless. Our limited minds now refer to it as the Multiverse.
Paul
@yeahright
Quote:
"If you believe in crop circles, your'e nuts"
Nuts? relative to what? Modern psychology admits most everyone is--Nuts, in one way or another. Here is a good indication as to why we believe you are--nuts.
"The goal of the modern skeptics seems to be to ridicule and belittle those who go against their beliefs in a manner similar to how some religious cults view others as enemies. Once an opinion is formed by the skeptic, nothing can typically change it, because the belief becomes central to their definition of "self" and to change one's opinion would be an admission of being wrong. In essence, it is the same thing as what is often described as faith in various religions. The gullibility aspect is derived from their immediate tendency to accept statements supporting their view as absolute fact. The pseudoscientist aspect is derived from their complete unwillingness to address contrary evidence, their ridiculing and belittling behaviors, and their unscientific and inaccurate portrayal of themselves as experts."
This is the difference between most here and the population at large, we will at least consider the possiblities before passing judgement where the skeptic cannot by their very nature. We do not believe everything that is delusional, it would be as delusional as believing nothing,lol.
Regards
AC
Watch out for the religious guys....they're really nuts. ::)
And be very careful to believe in unproven theories without questioning or proof.
You just might turn into a religious free energy fanatic...aka complete nutcase.
Don't get me wrong here. I want to find overunity as well but I demand evidence, not faith.
If there is a magical device out there...then test it properly instead of believing it could be OU.
I really detest announcements on success before there is any proof what so ever.
One of the mostly mentioned OU devices is the Bedini motor. But recently it was tested properly
by Terry Blanton, (an engineer that helped Sprain develop his Magnetic Wankel) and it was found
to have a COP of 0.25. So this is not OU at all. And there is no OU feedback to capacitors either.
Reports on these occurrences are based on false or badly performed measurements.
I'm not a religious person, but a scientific person. Warning, the following post will sound strange & foreign to most. :)
Conventional science has so far been unable to understand the higher nature of reality because 1) Of their requirement that it must be repeatable on a *global scale* by *anyone*. 2) Due to the nature of reality. So far the two are in conflict. Here's a very brief outline of ~ two decades of research in the nature of reality -->
http://highertruth.info (http://highertruth.info)
End result: If you want proof of certain areas, then you *must* see for yourself, as you cannot rely on other people (scientists) ***to discover it for _you_***! For example, I have my undeniable hardcore proof in OBE's, which I obtained while performing experiments out of body, but one cannot force such proof on another due to the nature of reality, as such events will randomly collapse. Earth is a school, and there are certain areas that cannot be global proof right now. One day in the future such concepts as OBE's will be part of every day life.
Nobody wants to hear that, that they have to do a lot of *work* to obtain their proof. It's so nice to let other people (scientists) do the work for you, and simply read about the proof in a magazine. That's great for globally accepted concepts such as solar cells, but not for concepts on the fringe of global reality such as consciousness existing physical death.
For anyone that's interested in obtaining their hardcore proof of OBE's -->
http://highertruth.info/how-to-have-an-obe/ (http://highertruth.info/how-to-have-an-obe/)
Regards,
Paul
FYI: The OBE's I'm talking about are done deliberately. It's commonly known as Astral Projection, or Soul Projection, or Soul Travel, etc. Actually there's a large Astral Projection community. Everyone must leave the body during sleep, but one needs to develop certain areas in order to become conscious and recall such experiences that are just as real as everyday life, and often more real.
Paul
How did religion come into this?
Religion is not a tangible thing. You cannot prove it. There is not one single smidgen of evidence pointing to an existence of a god / gods.
Other cultures, other civilizations external to this planet might exist but again we cannot prove it. Is there evidence? you can make up your own minds.
But is it falsifiable? Absolutely not!
Is religion falsifiable? you can think for yourselves.
I don't think anyone here's talking about God & religion. I'm taught that the closest concept to "God" is the Infinite.
If one wants proof of say the after life, then it must come in the form of person proof due to the nature of reality. I have my proof, undeniable proof of the after life by conducting experiments while out of body (Astral & Etheric Projection). I believe that anyone can obtain such proof, but you have to put forth a lot of effort & time -->
http://highertruth.info/how-to-have-an-obe/ (http://highertruth.info/how-to-have-an-obe/)
Regards,
Paul
Yeah well my concept of GOD is the solution to the theory of everything.
Once we find that, we are free..
I'm taught that there is no wrathful "God" on some thrown. Anyone adept enough at OBE's has probably seen the lower Astral Hells. Upon physical death people are draw to such places like gravity due to the unescapable law of cause & effect, but I'm taught that no being stays in such places forever. We bring such experiences to ourselves. The endless Astral heavens are far better. :) And beyond that are the mental realms of immensity, which seem almost infinitely better yet.
PL
Spirit communication devices:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8150.0
Regards,
Paul