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Mechanical free energy devices => mechanic => Topic started by: The Doctor on October 07, 2009, 02:58:44 PM

Title: Best Motor Design
Post by: The Doctor on October 07, 2009, 02:58:44 PM
First post WooT... Anyways down to business.. for the past week I've been viewing youtube and this forum for idea's and possibilities to create a magnet motor/generator.  My question for you would be what is the best design out right now, or in use with particle gains?  From what i can see some motor's will output more then they put in.. although i haven't seen anyone posting there amp's in and out just voltage that designs looks promising... On a second note there is also the    Perendev magnetic motor which also looks promising as its just magnets moving closer to spin a shaft.  I'm wanting to create a generator for my home, i would like to go completely off grid, im using solar right but with only 30% decrease in my bill im hoping someone out there has an idea what would be best for the output..
Title: Re: Best Motor Design
Post by: jonifer on October 07, 2009, 04:36:06 PM
No working magnetic engines on youtube at all, but some interesting construction is in patents office (require further work)
Title: Re: Best Motor Design
Post by: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 07, 2009, 05:03:26 PM
http://w1.siemens.com/press/en/pp_ct/2007/ct200704001_01_(supraleiter)_1444001.htm
Title: Re: Best Motor Design
Post by: The Doctor on October 07, 2009, 07:34:28 PM
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on October 07, 2009, 05:03:26 PM
http://w1.siemens.com/press/en/pp_ct/2007/ct200704001_01_(supraleiter)_1444001.htm

That doesn't help... good effort?
Title: Re: Best Motor Design
Post by: jadaro2600 on October 07, 2009, 09:25:49 PM
I remember once seeing someone demonstrate a modified boat propeller which had a large central rotor around which several electromagnetic coils were arranged.

The design was such that the central mass of the rotor was spinning inside a magnetic field, and the commutator was arranged so that current flowing from the central rotor created a current flow when spinning while the electromagnetic coils collected the additional current generated and arranged the secondary magnetic field to oppose that of an outside electromagnetic field.  The effect was a motor of increased efficiency.  Here is a crude drawing...

For more information, you should do your own research on this type of design; it's a well known fact that current builds up in the armature / rotor as the motor spins, no reason not to utilize this effect.

Comments welcome

c1-c3 are connected via the outer rim of r1, note that the link between c1-c3 may be diode protected, and thus there would be no need for c5.  Also, the polarity may need to be reversed in order to fulfill the homopolar action requirements this design utilizes.
Title: Re: Best Motor Design
Post by: The Doctor on October 07, 2009, 11:16:23 PM
Lol ok... Love your paint drawing btw :P, so that would be a basic pulse motor? still learning a bit about these, from my understanding i input some energy and collect what it gives back out?
Title: Re: Best Motor Design
Post by: jadaro2600 on October 07, 2009, 11:18:55 PM
Quote from: The Doctor on October 07, 2009, 11:16:23 PM
Lol ok... Love your paint drawing btw :P, so that would be a basic pulse motor? still learning a bit about these, from my understanding i input some energy and collect what it gives back out?

I likely misunderstood the nature of the thread, however, a motor can also generate.  The idea would be to have a more efficient motor / more efficient generator.
Title: Re: Best Motor Design
Post by: The Doctor on October 07, 2009, 11:41:35 PM
Quote from: jadaro2600 on October 07, 2009, 11:18:55 PM
I likely misunderstood the nature of the thread, however, a motor can also generate.  The idea would be to have a more efficient motor / more efficient generator.

Lol, no worries man im talking about something similar to IST pulse motor/generator

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG4G8xkhJqA

Kinda like that, looking to power my house... lol hope that will clear up any missunderstanding :)
Title: Re: Best Motor Design
Post by: 0c on October 07, 2009, 11:55:06 PM
To the best of my knowledge, there is no motor anywhere that will do what you want. In fact, there is no motor anywhere that will even power a small LED without some external source of energy.

But, when it comes to the "best" motor, that would have to be mine:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3871.0

Good luck,
0c
Title: Re: Best Motor Design
Post by: The Doctor on October 08, 2009, 12:22:54 AM
Quote from: 0c on October 07, 2009, 11:55:06 PM
To the best of my knowledge, there is no motor anywhere that will do what you want. In fact, there is no motor anywhere that will even power a small LED without some external source of energy.

But, when it comes to the "best" motor, that would have to be mine:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=3871.0

Good luck,
0c

I know there is none that will power without an external power source, but i already have solar power which i could use to power it, from what i can come across this is my picture of what i think IST motor is... im just wanting someone to confirm my thinkings....



This is what i understand now, that A-F are coils, 1 of these coils will pulse a current through... ex 12v@500mA.  The others wll collect.  now “  “m” is a Neo magnet with all same poles? and on the end of the rest of the coils there would be a Neo with opisite poles? To repell the “m”? Or does is there one collecting colil? while the others are there just to repell?


Does a design like this output more then input?

***Edit** sorry for the abnormally large picture lol