For those who have put forth a lot of time have their proof of a family or friend saying *clear* personal messages over such a device *in the presence* of an Operator.
An audio clip of a clear Spirit session & further details:
http://highertruth.info/2009/10/08/spirit-phone/
The nature of reality is not what people think it is.
PL
Hmmm, sounds kinda dodgy to me. "...,1..10, Mary had a little lamb., Yes Doctor, sorry I wasn't listening I needed a smoke." :)
There was the Scole experiment with a supposed device which was actually constructed by a scientist on the other side for communication. Some kind of germanium device.
http://www.thescoleexperiment.com/s_files_13.htm
http://www.thescoleexperiment.com/images/tdc_fig_04.jpg
I'm skeptic of this, after my father died even though we had a close bond, I didn't feel any kind of "spirit" communication. Just here and gone, an empty hole in my being. I have only the memories to cherish. If it's only evolution we have after death than another billion years we may evolve somewhere else in this universe, given symmetry and chaos rules.
Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on October 08, 2009, 07:34:49 PMI'm skeptic of this, after my father died even though we had a close bond, I didn't feel any kind of "spirit" communication. Just here and gone, an empty hole in my being. I have only the memories to cherish.
Most people move on after death. It is extremely rare for them to try and contact us because the veil over their memory is lifted, and they understand the purpose of physical life.
Paul
Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on October 08, 2009, 07:34:49 PMHmmm, sounds kinda dodgy to me. "...,1..10, Mary had a little lamb., Yes Doctor, sorry I wasn't listening I needed a smoke." :)
Why? It's merely a short clip of countless hours of audio.
Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on October 08, 2009, 07:34:49 PM
http://www.thescoleexperiment.com/s_files_13.htm (http://www.thescoleexperiment.com/s_files_13.htm)
http://www.thescoleexperiment.com/images/tdc_fig_04.jpg (http://www.thescoleexperiment.com/images/tdc_fig_04.jpg)
Thanks for the links. Seems like an interesting project with great results. They're taking a good path of designing custom hardware just for this task.
Most EVP's consists of a few words, are not that clear because they're using simple hand recorders purchased at any store, and a medium is not present. The Scole Experiment claims to be different in that the messages are long and clear.
Spirit communication technology is great area to research, and needs a lot of sharp open minded people with some intuition. As we learn more about what works best, the need for a medium will be no more, as any person will be sufficient.
Regards,
Paul
Hi Paul,
QuoteWhy? It's merely a short clip of countless hours of audio.
Maybe it's just me I think I would be more enthused and have more respect if someone was trying to expend energy to send me a message. I wouldn't squander the time I have been given. I would ask meaningful questions that could be validated in this reality. It's also hard for me to believe when everything can be digitally manipulated now a days to play on other beliefs or desires, especially when it come to loved ones who have passed. I would like to believe but I need to validate it myself.
The Scole Experiment seemed different than most ghost hunting in that some of the beings that they were communicating with were termed "inter-dimensional" with a non familiarity with our reality which is something else entirely. So is the device a inter-dimensional ham radio? It would be interesting to build for a rainy day project. Do you know of any other EVP communication devices that can be built? Have you had any experience first hand with any?
Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on October 10, 2009, 07:04:55 PM
I wouldn't squander the time I have been given. I would ask meaningful questions that could be validated in this reality.
Actually he did, but like I said he spent ages recording conversations, and what you heard was just a short segment. I would not judge this on a 60 second clip. There was only one purpose of grabbing this clip: to demonstrate how clear the audio was. A lot of the sessions consists of the Spirit counting, or saying anything while the doctor fine tunes his updated circuit. The Dr. will often change something in circuit, and fine tune while the Spirit is saying something.
Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on October 10, 2009, 07:04:55 PMIt's also hard for me to believe when everything can be digitally manipulated now a days to play on other beliefs or desires, especially when it come to loved ones who have passed. I would like to believe but I need to validate it myself.
A lot of us have our undeniable proof, and we're just trying to help others obtain their proof. The best way is for someone to join a local nearby paranormal group, spend a few years hunting for their proof, and if they're open minded and can refrain from harsh negative thoughts then they'll get their undeniable proof.
Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on October 10, 2009, 07:04:55 PMThe Scole Experiment seemed different than most ghost hunting in that some of the beings that they were communicating with were termed "inter-dimensional" with a non familiarity with our reality which is something else entirely. So is the device a inter-dimensional ham radio? It would be interesting to build for a rainy day project. Do you know of any other EVP communication devices that can be built? Have you had any experience first hand with any?
Given present technology, these devices require the presence of someone such as medium to help breakdown the barrier between worlds. As technology advances, the presence of any ordinary person will be sufficient. Don't get me wrong, the Spirits can do it even without any device, but it requires a massive amount of valuable energy on their end.
I've never built any of these devices, but I used to belong to a undisclosed group that used a medium to channel Spirits. I spent ages going to different channelers, and most are legit, but they're not that gifted. Only a very very very small % of channelers are gifted. The particular channeler I knew was definitely legit!
It's so true that if someone wants undeniable proof, then they'll have to either be extrodinarily lucky, or put forth a lot of time and effort. I found that the legit channelers are the ones who do not advertise, and for a very good reason! One quickly learns that Earth is a school, a tough school, and we're not here to be wowed, or to prove the supernatural to someone, and so on. But if ones Heart is truly calling them to find such undeniable proof, then go for it, and you'll find it. Actually, the truth is, it will find you so long as you put forth the effort.
An even better way to obtain personal proof is through what is popularly know as Astral Projection, or in this case it is Etheric Projection where I would project out of body to a distant place, observe, go back to physical body, and verify. I've performed a lot of OBE experiments, and have my undeniable proof.
That's my personal proof, and because people do not yet know of the nature of reality, they ask me to simply project to them and prove it. The answer is simple, but people do not want to hear it. Yes, it is possible to do that, which is essentially over powering that persons reality. I've tried it with friends, and it's difficult because each person exists in *their* Real Time Zone (RTZ). If I was a liberated being, it would be easy projecting into your RTZ, but then I would be taking a massive risk of interfering with your spiritual growth, which = Massive Karma (law of cause & effect) on my part. It's far easier teaching someone to have Etheric Projections so they can have their own proof, but it takes years of practice. Well worth it, period!!! Having an OBE is not difficult, it took me one week, most people can do it in a few months with some good hard effort, but it's an entirely different story if you want to learn how to sync your Etheric body into your physical bodies RTZ while out of body. An adept at OBE's, someone I trust, said it typically takes ~ 5 years of OBE practice to reach that level.
Anyhow, if anyone's interested in Astral & Etheric Projection, then feel free to contact me. I don't sell anything, and don't make any $ from this. It's all free. You can start here -->
How to have an OBE (outline):
http://highertruth.info/how-to-have-an-obe/ (http://highertruth.info/how-to-have-an-obe/)
Nature of Reality (outline), according to my interpretation:
http://highertruth.info/ (http://highertruth.info/)
Regards,
Paul
I am just sharing my opinion here, magician tricks are just good business, nothing more. I have seen many a good magician tricks, they can fool the lot very easily.
Jerry ;)
Proof via OBE's does not require anyone else.
Quote from: PaulLowrance on October 10, 2009, 08:30:52 PM
An even better way to obtain personal proof is through what is popularly know as Astral Projection, or in this case it is Etheric Projection where I would project out of body to a distant place, observe, go back to physical body, and verify. I've performed a lot of OBE experiments, and have my undeniable proof.