Dear All,
We want to state that we are entering the competition officially. We shall build 3 prototypes that will demonstrate overunity beyond any shadow of doubt.
The Name of our machine is "Lead-Out Energy Machine".
The details are in the Lee Tseung Lead Out Energy Thread.
We shall first enter Three Open Shows. The first one will be Nov 5-8, 2009 at the Inno Carnival 09 in the Hong Kong Science Park.
You are welcome to attend. Admission is free.
Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Limited
We are all (at least most of us) wishing you well, and following your progress.
When are you sending a unit to Stephan for verification? That's what officially enters you in the competition, not the trade shows.
I hope you win, we are all fed up of being ripped off by the energy companies.
All the very best
cat
Brief description of the 3 identical prototypes for the Competition
The rotating wheel diameter will be 60 cm. The non-rotating wheel diameter will be 90 cm.
The outer dimension including the packaging material for shipping will be 120 x 100 x 35 cm.
The weight is estimated to be 50 kg.
It will contain:
1. 16 permanent magnets equally spaced in the rotating wheel. These magnets may be adjusted and even changed by other permanent magnets.
2. 15 coils that can either become drive coils or collector coils. Each coil will work with one magnet. One slot will be reserved for the Proximity Switch. In other words, 15 coils will face 15 magnets and 1 proximity switch will face the remaining magnet.
3. The adjustment of the Proximity Switch is extremely important as slight change in its position and angling will speed up, slow down or allow the wheel to rotate in the opposite direction.
4. There can be an optional wheel attached to the axle. This additional load can be a small wheel with small magnets to affect the strong magnetic field in the big wheel. Some fine tuning can be done.
5. Some of the coils can be used as Collector Coils. The arrangement can be in series and/or parallel. This is the most important item that affects the Output. Some additional coils can be inserted.
6. The Output Current is AC and should be rectified (converted to DC). This DC Output can have voltage higher than the 12V battery and thus can recharge the battery.
7. The load can be one or more light bulbs. The smallest ones we use will be 12V 3 watts. The largest ones we use will be 12V 30 watts.
At present, much tuning is required before overunity can be demonstrated (as calculated by the Input and Output meter readings. ) There is an additional feature that we have not used yet. Our Drive Coils effectively act as Collector Coils when they are not Pulsing. This may be a bonus feature in the delivered prototype.
To avoid any chance of the untrained Evaluators not able to tune the Lead-Out Energy Machines, we may have some of the trained engineers to do the tuning when the Machines are delivered. In addition, the Machines will not be shipped until the experts in Hong Kong and China give their Official Blessing.
Better make sure no one touches your machine to wreck it.triffid
This is the photo of the 60 cm Tong Po Chi Lead-Out Energy for the Inno-Carnival 09 in Hong Kong.
I just took the readings with two helpers - Forever and Debbie.
The World will see the Meter Reading from Nov 5-8, 2009. The debunkers and insulters are welcome.
The details are in the Lee Tseung Lead Out THeory thread.
Quote from: triffid on October 30, 2009, 11:42:52 PM
Better make sure no one touches your machine to wreck it.triffid
The Sponsor says that two security cameras will be monitoring the Wheel constinously for the duration of the Show.
The Wheel will be placed at Booth A03 at the Center of the Hong Kong Invention Association Inventions.
Quote from: spoondini on October 30, 2009, 12:33:45 PM
When are you sending a unit to Stephan for verification? That's what officially enters you in the competition, not the trade shows.
did you sent a unit to Stepan ?
Quote from: powercat on October 30, 2009, 01:53:01 PM
I hope you win, we are all fed up of being ripped off by the energy companies.
All the very best
cat
Would you prefer being ripped off by mr tseung?
@Itseung888
I would be willing to discuss using a microcontroller computer to automatically
tune your unit. Anything a human can do to tune it can be done automatically,
assuming tuning can be electronically actuated. The micro control computer
can also automatically keep track of net energy production - like an electric
distribution meter.
A microcontroller can't create overunity energy to begin with though. :)
:S:MarkSCoffman
Quote from: spoondini on October 31, 2009, 08:45:21 AM
Would you prefer being ripped off by mr tseung?
If he wins, then his device works and the technology is open source, so I see no rip off their,
if you see something else please let us all know.
cat
Good luck Itseung888.
If your device really works then will shake up the scientific community and challenge what we know about the laws of physics. I personally don't care. Let me just build one so I can help charge the batteries in a solar array during times of low or no solar insolation.
I hope he can show a selfrunning system or use
small accumulators or supercaps to store the ou energy
and feed it back to the input.
As this device seems to be pretty big,
I hope they can scale it down,
before they want to ship something to me for testing.
Would be nice, if you post videos from the show.
Many thanks in advance.
Regards, Stefan.
Quote from: hartiberlin on November 05, 2009, 01:18:55 PM
I hope he can show a selfrunning system or use
small accumulators or supercaps to store the ou energy
and feed it back to the input.
As this device seems to be pretty big,
I hope they can scale it down,
before they want to ship something to me for testing.
Would be nice, if you post videos from the show.
Many thanks in advance.
Regards, Stefan.
Dear Stefan,
Our feedback can be even better than that. Our Drive Coils are very effective Collector Coils during the no current period. That energy is sufficient to recharge the batteries. (Similar to the Bedini type set up.)
The size and weight will be reduced by our partner factories. We intend to send you the factory version with much better machining. You are likely to receive one from the first batch rolling out from the factory.
Since you are better qualified than most, we shall tune your device to generate not just 2 or 3 watts. It will be more like 50-60 watts. You can set up extremely convincing demos at your site. I do not mind working out a deal so that you can improve and distribute the product in Germany. You may even represent us in one of the Inventor Shows in Germany.
We hall have fun and benefit the World together.
Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Limited
Quote from: ltseung888 on November 05, 2009, 01:55:09 PM
I do not mind working out a deal so that you can improve and distribute the product in Germany.
If Stephan gets a working device
I can distribute it in France
Quote from: ltseung888 on November 05, 2009, 01:55:09 PM
Dear Stefan,
Our feedback can be even better than that. Our Drive Coils are very effective Collector Coils during the no current period. That energy is sufficient to recharge the batteries. (Similar to the Bedini type set up.)
The size and weight will be reduced by our partner factories. We intend to send you the factory version with much better machining. You are likely to receive one from the first batch rolling out from the factory.
Since you are better qualified than most, we shall tune your device to generate not just 2 or 3 watts. It will be more like 50-60 watts. You can set up extremely convincing demos at your site. I do not mind working out a deal so that you can improve and distribute the product in Germany. You may even represent us in one of the Inventor Shows in Germany.
We hall have fun and benefit the World together.
Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Limited
Hi Lawrence,
many thanks for the infos.
Looking forward to see, what you have.
Please keep me posted also by email.
Many thanks in advance.
Regards, Stefan.
Since you use inductor , the current phase angle relative to voltage cant be in phase so i think its realy important to show a scope shot of this 2 because showing a voltmeter and a amp meter dosent tell anything if they are not in phase.
Best Regards,
IceStorm
Quote from: IceStorm on November 06, 2009, 11:25:48 PM
Since you use inductor , the current phase angle relative to voltage cant be in phase so i think its realy important to show a scope shot of this 2 because showing a voltmeter and a amp meter dosent tell anything if they are not in phase.
Best Regards,
IceStorm
We have onverted everything into DC for comparison.
Continue the Experiments on the 60 cm wheel
Now that the Inno Carnival 09 Open Show is over, we can continue working on the 60 cm wheel.
The following will be done as shown in the diagram.
1. The Proximity Switch (PS) will have its own 12V battery. It uses a small amount of current. The chance of it blowing up is small. We can replace and then recharge the battery by the Wheel from time to time.
2. The feedback circuit. We have to be very careful on this one. In the diagram, the drive coils were not shown for clarity. Once we closed the switch, DC current will pass through the Relay depending on the action of the PS. Our Relay was rated at 40 Amps. Two were blown up. This implied that we might have current exceeding 40 Amps at certain times.
3. At one time, we fed back the entire Lead-Out Energy Output after converted to DC back to the battery as shown. The DC Voltmeter exceeded 1000V which is the maximum on our meter. This and step 2 confirmed that we indeed had the 2, 4, 8, 16, 32 multiplication effect.
4. Blowing up electronics and melting wires were to be expected. We now need to add current limiting circuits, change to thicker wires, replace diode bridge to take on the much higher current, etc.
5. The chance of our producing Output much higher than the 3 watts in the Inno Carnival 09 is 100%. From our data so far, if we can control the feedback voltage and current, we should be able to produce a 5KW electricity generator with our 60 cm wheel machine.
6. However, we shall build another new prototype with better material â€" wood is too dangerous as a fire hazard. With Divine Help again, the machine will be ready for the December 3 Show at the Hong Kong Convention Center.
7. Beijing is asking for the 5KW electricity generator. The evaluator said that: “Senior Officials cannot read nor trust meters. But they will understand turning on many light bulbs, heaters or air conditioners.â€
We have conclusively demonstrated overunity at Inno Carnival 09. That is sufficient to win the Prize. Now we need to demonstrate a 5KW electricity generator for Beijing, the White House and United Nations, we may send a similar one to Stefan too. He can show his visitors that he never needs to pay electricity bills again (may even supply power to the grid and earn a decent sum for his years of effort.)
Lawrence,
sounds great.
Did you or any of your friends reord any video on your recent show
and uploaded it already to youtube or simular video services ?
Please post a link as soon as you have a video online.
Many thanks in advance.
Regards, Stefan.
Our video showing the Lead-Out Energy Machine readings are available at:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lYanUKCVT4
and in Chinese
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mk4ZtvAhDGA
The wheel is now at the electrical engineering department of IVE â€" the technical institute at Tsing Yi Island in Hong Kong. Three professors are helping to double check and solve the runaway voltage/current problem.
If successful, we may demonstrate a 5KW electricity generator on Dec 3. You may never need to pay for electricity again when you receive the wheel from us.
Okay, Lawrence,
had forgetten about this topic.
I have moved it now into the right section:
Devices applied for the OU prize
Any news about your device and a scaled down version in size ?
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
Quote from: hartiberlin on January 15, 2010, 03:48:46 PM
Okay, Lawrence,
had forgetten about this topic.
I have moved it now into the right section:
Devices applied for the OU prize
Any news about your device and a scaled down version in size ?
Many thanks.
Regards, Stefan.
Dear Stefan,
The big wheel is now at the Studio of the Better Hong Kong Radio Show. They have both video and audio recording and editing equipment. My grand-daughter, Forever Yuen, was hired as a part-time helper there after her presentation on Lead-Out energy. They can demonstrate that Wheel to any skeptic and to any one with their own measuring instruments at short notice.
I also accepted the post of Asia Contact for the Alternative Energy Organization organized by Todd Hathaway, an US Military Energy Expert. We shall be doing a Show in English.
On the technical side, our high priority is to satisfy Beijing first. We need to ship an overunity wheel to the China Patent Office for their experts to evaluate before they will grant the patent. At the same time, some Officials ask for a 5 KW version that can be used for the average home. The promise was Government support.
The immediate plan is to produce a 300 watt unit first. The discussions are in the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out Energy thread. Your unit is likely to be one of the first production units capable of generating 300 watts. That unit will be able to demonstrate overunity as soon as you switch it on. All measuring meters will be included with the unit. It will be shown on video and open to the public first. In other words, it will replace our existing 60 cm wheel as soon as it is ready. We shall have some qualified factories to produce some “educational units†for us.
Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Limited
Bedini follower: “How is your Lead-Out A different from Zero Point Energy?â€
Tseung: “Lead-Out Energy is the familiar energy that already surrounds us. Examples are gravitational and electron motion energy.â€
Bedini follower: “Zero Point Energy is the Energy that will still be present when the temperature of the material drops to absolute zero. Gravitational Energy will still be present. Electron Motion Energy will still be present. If not, the electrons will fall into the nucleus. Are we talking about the same thing in different terms?â€
Tseung: “Good Point.â€
*** Stefan, what happened to the Lee-Tseung Lead-Out Energy Theory thread? Has it been locked? I could no longer read it on my computer?
Quote from Lawrence:
"On the technical side, our high priority is to satisfy Beijing first. We need to ship an overunity wheel to the China Patent Office for their experts to evaluate before they will grant the patent. At the same time, some Officials ask for a 5 KW version that can be used for the average home. The promise was Government support."
I thought this was an open source forum?
Stefan:
Is this device still eligible for the OU prize if it is patented already?
Bill
You are Right and He has in effect Voided his Entry . Stephan should remove it and it Violates the rules as stated here :. You need to build 2 working units, both must work the same, so to make sure; it is a replicate able device. One device you must keep yourself for verification processes and the other device you must ship to me for the testing and verification process. My address is: Stefan Hartmann, Keplerstr. 11 B, 10589 Berlin, Germany.
2. Each device must not weight more than 20 Kg and at least put out 1 Watt of continuous electrical DC power, voltage and current ratio does not matter, but it should be less than 1000 Volts DC for handling it more safely, so at 1000 Volts DC it should deliver at least constantly 1mA, or at 100 Volts at least 10mA or at 10 Volts at least 100mA for instance. Please rectify and buffer with a cap, if you just only have AC power, so please convert it to DC power for easier output power measurements.
If your device is more a mechanical or chemical (e.g. rotational, electrolysis or cold fusion-type, etc.) device, then you must also build into it the converter to get electrical DC power out of it, so it is producing at least a continuous 1 Watt of free electrical DC power without using any fuel other than water or air.
Your device must not be powered by an outside source, such as wind, solar or received radio energy and must work 24 hours / 7 days a week / 365 days per year long. The output power must stay constant and must not fall down after some time. It must only have a “fuel†or “maintenance cost†per year of less than 0.001 US$ = 0.1 US cent per GENERATED Kilo-Watt-Hour including “fuelâ€, “repair†and maintenance costs.
3. It can be powered by radioactive decay, but the used materials must not be harmful and must be easy to get in every city and must not be special parts which are difficult to get or hard to produce and must not be highly dangerously radioactive or unlawful to possess. It also must not use any very expensive or forbidden and/or banned radioactive materials, which are hard to get for the average guy and are dangerous to handle and pose a threat for the environment.
Also if it used water as the "fuel", it should not use more than 1 Litre of normal tap water per day. It also must not put out any dangerous pollution stuff and must not be harmful to the environment.
4. A maximum of 4 x 9 Volts Batteries or accumulators or a maximum of four pieces D-cell type batteries or accumulators can be used in it. These batteries must only be used as storage or start batteries and they must not have more than 20 Watt-hours (Voltage x Amp-hours) of energy storage capacity. They must be declared and must not be hidden and battery lifetime and recharge time must be specified.
5. Battery life should be at least 3 years and to replace the batteries should not cost more than 5 US$ for all of the batteries, if batteries are at all used in the device.
6. Patented devices do not apply, cause we want a solution that has no rights yet on it and which would be free to build by anyone. Commercial replications must pay at least 10 % license fees to charity organisations or similar organisations, which "feed the world" and help the poor. This should be watched by the community to verify that commercial builder companies really pay these licenses to charity organisations. The inventor who wants to patent his device should not apply for the prize.
Gadget
Gadget and Bill you are right.
It can only apply devices, that are not patented.
So I will move this thread out of this board again.
Regards, Stefan.
Quote from: hartiberlin on January 21, 2010, 02:21:24 PM
Gdagetmail and Bill you are right.
It can only apply devices, that are not patented.
So I will move this thread out of this board again.
Regards, Stefan.
Dear Stefan,
Rules are rules. You are right. I accept that I have to withdraw from the competition.
However, the information will still be available to benefit the World.
*** I am getting the “error on page†message when I try to access the last page on the Lee-Tseung Lead Out thread. I am not sure whether it is just my computer. Someone believed that it might be a sign from China â€" do not discuss other China Inventions! Since it is only a suggestion or rumor, I shall ignore it and replicate my post in this thread. Let us see whether we really get into the “spy†game!
Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Limited
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FQZN3N4rTdo
This is another OU device from China.
This group contacted me after our Lead-Out Energy Theory and the Tong Wheel was broadcasted in China. I shall try to get more information before making conclusive remarks.
Lawrence:
For what it is worth, I can access your topic with no problems, including the last page.
I hope this helps.
I am sorry to have had to point that out about the patent but this is an open source forum and I felt that it was the right thing to do. This is no way was personal and, by your response, I can see that you indeed do understand. I thank you for your attitude in this situation.
Sincerely,
Bill
Quote from: Pirate88179 on January 21, 2010, 05:52:44 PM
Lawrence:
For what it is worth, I can access your topic with no problems, including the last page.
I hope this helps.
I am sorry to have had to point that out about the patent but this is an A forum and I felt that it was the right thing to do. This is no way was personal and, by your response, I can see that you indeed do understand. I thank you for your attitude in this situation.
Sincerely,
Bill
I just finished a phone conversation with Lee Cheung Kin. He said that the Chinese Government is considering funding us and quoted three sites for us to choose.
Glad that the Steorn Official website actually posted my comments made around Jan 10, 2010
http://www.youtube.com/user/steornofficial
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ltseung888
People object to devices such the Orbo because they thought that such devices violate the Law of Conservation of Energy. They did not understand (or have not learned) that gravitational or electron motion energy can be lead-out (or bring-in) from the surrounding environment. Use Google to search lead-out energy and learn.
EconoChallenge
This could be our first modern tapping of a much bigger energy sea. Go ORBO!
Jahroen
please sean if there is no demo today can you do a short demo yourself just showing input and output of the system ?
The witts.ws motor confirms the validity of the Lead-Out Energy once again.
Its construction is similar to the China motor in my previous post.
I expect many OU devices will come out into the open in the next few months.
The Tong Wheel is out. The Steorn Orbo is out. The China motor is out. Now the wits.ws motor is out. All can be explained by the Lead-Out Energy Theory. There is no violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy if we accept that gravitational and Electron Motion energy can be lead-out.
*** I strongly believe that the Governments will release information on their top-secret devices that are much more advanced once multiple OU devices have been demonstrated by civilian organizations. With Lead-Out Energy Theory, the roadblock quoting Conservation of Energy is now removed.
*** The Lee-Tseung thread is still giving me problems. I cannot read the last page.
The following is from the Australian Inventor Chas Campbell:
Quote
How 2 Fix
To create a power source by using Gravity you must have a constant source of momentum
and it doesn't have to be perpetual motion, My system uses an electric motor to generate
centrifugal force this is achieved with flywheels. A balanced flywheel attached to an electric
motor will actual reduce the power consumption of the electric motor while generating Torque
you use the extra power to drive another flywheel and so on,
Remember to produce electricity you only have to spin a alternator at its designed speed
once that speed is reached you use the torque (hp) to keep it spinning sounds to easy
doesn't it, I can spin a flywheel at 1000 rpm which weighs 80 kg and the power consumption
of the 750watt motor is less than what it takes to spin the motor attached to nothing,
As a mater of interest the flywheel has a diameter of 600mm, Imagine a steel wheel weighing
80 Kg travelling at 113 KL PH, So next time your electricity account arrives ask yourself
why does it cost so much when it can be produced by Free wind, Free sun, Free tides,
Free water and Free Gravity which can be produced on site "no more power lines"..
or high insurance cover on your solar panels or wind towers.
Gravity is available everywhere even to the 2+ billion people who live without electricity.
I am not smart enough to write a book or design a computer game so I decided to invent
something that would make me rich it's been a lot of fun and very frustrating as everybody
keeps saying it can't be done, I am now 73, live in a unit, have a foreign landlord and have
spent all my money on my invention, it's time I told the world how to build the SAHC generator,.
Safe, Affordable, Helpful, & Clean.
Sir/Madam if you, your company, or your Goverment would like to be associated with something
that will make the world a better, safer place please contact me, I've had a film made that
I'm sure you will find very interesting.
If you send your POSTAL ADDRESS with a small amount to cover my costs to my
POSTAL ADDRESS a copy of the film in DVD mode will be posted to you in a POSTpak*
Sincerely,
Chas Campbell
PO BOX 137 SUNNYBANK QLD AUSTRALIA 4109.
My email reply to Chas Campbell
Dear Chas,
Thank you for your email. Do not lose heart. Help is on the way.
(1) We have produced a large 600mm wheel that can demonstrate overunity. The Pulse Motor wheel built by TONG Po Chi was demonstrated to over 25,000 persons in two Open Shows in Hong Kong. The wheel can only produce 2-3 watts but it confirms the Lead-Out Energy Theory.
(2) Steorn in Ireland is demonstrating their Orbo device. The Orbo is a pulse motor using magnetic attraction with toroidal coils. Their site is steorn.com. It has stirred up much International attention. It also confirms the Lead-Out Energy theory.
(3) An US military energy expert, Todd Hathaway, organized an alternative energy group and invited me as the Asian Contact. One of the purposes of the group is to fund inventors such as yourself.
(4) Two groups in China contacted me and would like to work with me. They learned about the Lead-Out Energy Theory and the demonstration wheel from the TV shows in China. They said that they already have funding and support from within China.
(5) My co-inventor, Mr. Lee Cheung Kin who has connections with the Chinese Military, informed me that China is considering funding us and is asking us to pick one of the three locations within China as the research center.
(6) I am meeting with a number of influential persons in Hong Kong, including potential investors. I shall mention your invention to them.
Hang in there. I expect the publicity and success of the above demonstrations will confirm the Lead-Out Energy theory. There will be interest to fund worthwhile OU inventions or Lead-Out Energy machines. I believe your device is a good example of a Lead-Out Energy machine.
Lawrence Tseung
Director
Help Seedlings Innovate Foundation Limited
I have attached the answer file to Todd Hathaway. It provided the latest information.
We plan to do a professional videotaping job in English after adding a few of the improvemets discussed in the file.
@ Man in Funny White Hat.
The Chas device does not work, never has never will. A number of attempts has been made to validate this and all failed. Once again he continues deluding himself as you have done. PS I live near him.
You can continue with your words, exhibitions and prolific writing on forums, but you have not had your device independently tested or authenticated. You have no even been able to claim the overunity prize.
So as you might have noticed your forum has very few replies or interest apart from people like myself who see some entertainment value in your posts (I like a good laugh everyday)
I urge you to continue your work but forget talking about what you are going to do, just do it.
Please ask how the government officials and everyone else has reacted to his demonstrations. If it worked it would be front page news here.
Anyway I kind have become fond of you , I know your heart is in your right place. Just make sure you do not get too caught up in your delusion.
Mark