To all,
I feel there has to date, never been a self runner or an overunity motor or generator built, only mistakes and fraudulent claims.
I have made a few of those mistakes myself. A motor/generator put on public display 24/7 for all to see and examine is the only true proof of a self runner I feel. No one has done that yet. I do feel it can and will be done in time though. It will not take much to tell if something is the real thing when it does finally come along, like Bob Dylan once said in a song, "you don't need a weather man to know which way the wind blows."
Thanks,
Butch LaFonte
I do actually believe some people out there, even as far back (or further) as Tesla, have gotten things to work. The problem is the powers that be shut you out as soon as someone gets close to someone. Tesla's early ideas were welcomed by the power induestries and then they just all of a sudden shut him out. If there is a public demonstration somehow it has to be shown to MILLIONS of people to make progress. Also I don't feel its really overunity. There are lots of things out there we do not understand. We live in a sea of energy that just needs to be tapped into.
I'm personally convinced that Bedini and probably Tilley have made functional over unity devices. John gives some of his secrets, but not enough details for the layman to replicate. Tilley may have a track record, but the bicycle is very impressive.
Butch, I'm just as frustrated as you. I thought I had it beaten only to find another monkey in the works. We have no choice but to continue......
Rich