There appears to be two "camps" developing, in reference to these phenomena. Those who blindly trust "data" from other sources, regardless of date gathered or techniques of interpretation of said data....and those who prefer to research things more judiciously, and make verification with their own eyes.
Of course, something could be said regarding that ever present 3rd camp.....whose agenda becomes more obvious as our Late Hour winds to a close.
Those of you who have researched the observations of myself and the increasing number of others regarding our present Earth wobble and the "shaken heavens", can see for yourselves that the numbers, at least the numbers BEFORE our present world situation, don't mesh with what is occurring.
Remember, University websites and texts reveal the old moon orbit data, which shows how the moon's orbit sways 5 degrees per lunar month. Moving both above and below the "ecliptic plane" (the plane of earth's orbit around the sun).
One can, with one's own eyes, observe how the moon rises in the south east, tracking low across the southern sky, and in a period of two weeks, has moved northward to rise in the northeast and track high across the sky, slightly to the north of most locations in the continental U.S.
Covering a swath of sky MUCH, MUCH greater than 5 degrees in two week's time.
http://www.psrd.hawaii.edu/WebImg/earmoon.gif
The following chart, which is hosted at the University of Arkansas clearly demonstrates the OLD LIMITS OF THE MOON'S DECLINATION for a period of ONE YEAR. I live at 41 degrees N. Latitude and can watch it rise and track north of me, once a month!
http://nfo.edu/limits.jpg
Dear reader, I ask you, how many degrees of latitude would you say the moon is covering every two weeks, much less per YEAR?
Also, get a good look at sun rise and set in late december of this year....what some are believing to be, or trying to pass off as, normal is not the "old normal"....it's the quite temporary "new normal".
http://www.isuma.tv/lo/en/inuit-knowledge-and-climate-change-project/earth-has-shifted
http://divulgence.net/Sun%20angle.html
http://www.michaelmandeville.com/earthmonitor/polarmotion/2006_wobble_anomaly.htm
http://www.zetatalk.com/index/earthrv9.htm
http://axischange.wordpress.com/2007/08/09/earth
http://www.eh2r.com
Of course, one is always free to believe whatever, whomever, and whenever they wish to, but I would ask one to be not too fearful to trust one's own eyes.
I post this information for the SOLE purpose of inspiring HOPE and education in God's Faithful, those who might yet become so, and those who might return to being about our Father's business at this late hour. The harvest is Great, but the laborers are few.
As for me and mine, we believe and follow Yeshua, Jesus Christ
Blessings, all, in Christ Yeshua
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"There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near."
the heavens are not concerned with what anyone believes, the heavens do what they were destined to do. no views can change that. if an Asteroid comes and impacts the world it does so because it was destine to. no ones views will change that, you can pray to God that it will not kill everything on this planet or you can actually do something to stop it physically. one is more effective than the other.
stopping the impact physically does not require anyone to believe in a God. it just requires team work and know how. the Universe doesn't care what you are or who you are or what you believe. it will continue to do whatever it is going to do.
Talk about stating the obvious!
Of course the elements themselves have no feelings on the matter..... ::)
But some people do. And it is to those relative few that I write these things.....
To those for whom such things remain meaningful.
Blessings be upon you and yours in Yeshua, Jesus Christ
Ok, so here's where the moon should be this time of year, at least according to the university of Arkansas:
http://nfo.edu/limits.jpg
And here's where I watched the moon set early this morning from 41 degrees N. Latitude, central U.S. :
http://i48.tinypic.com/10qbh9v.jpg
And later at midday:
http://i47.tinypic.com/14xijw7.jpg
Line of sight viewing angle as seen from above:
http://i50.tinypic.com/29krwar.jpg
[Let me point out that my measurements and angles are only as accurate as one might expect from a layman's perspective, and anyone wishing to shout "LIAR" from the rooftops over any small deviation from the geometry which one might obtain from NASA or the president's science advisor, should take it up with their 'buddies' over at 'useless eater' affairs....as I'm not biting.....]
Just 'barking' a bit, is all.
It should also be mentioned that I saw the moon rise in the east northeast, track high above in a shallow arc and set as shown above. A seemingly IMPOSSIBLE feat, as the rise, track, and set angles would appear to indicate that the moon is orbiting the north pole or there abouts.
So obviously, something 'else' must be occurring.....
I for one, don't recall the moon rising and setting at such angles so far north, nor tracking anywhere near so high in the sky.....until sometime beginning around 2006/2007
Any 'rogue' astronomers want to jump in and explain exactly how such observations fit with the University supplied data, or don't fit....as the evidence seems to indicate?
Blessings in Yeshua
in 1950, earth was in 3.0 D
or the lower third density.
currently, earth is somewhere around 3.3 D.
and our awareness is greatly increasing because of it.
12,000 years ago, earth was in 4D.
where time is a movable dimension, that anyone can walk across with their feet.
but there was a huge disaster.
that reshaped the land masses.
this disaster was the great flood that the bible talked about.
the great flood was caused by a small group of insane donkeyholes,
who destroyed the facilities,
that kept the firmament floating hundreds of feet above the ground.
earths magnetic capacity was reduced, as a result.
and earths density fell into lower 3D.
but the damage to the earths magnetic capacity, is healing.
partly because of the raising temperatures in the atmosphere.
(thank china and india for dumping thousands of tons of greenhouse gas into the atmosphere.)
and partly because enough humans,
have developed a nervous system strong enough,
to hold enough magnetism,
to increase the planets overall magnetism enough,
that earths magnetism is raising into 4D.
there will be no disaster in our future.
only a return to the paradise that mankind lost, 12,000 years ago.
wow!
that is what i want to hear ...
and i beleave this to be correct!
ist!
Bring that shit on.
I have been watching the moon very closely for the past couple of years. Its orbit is visibly changed and you don't need instruments to see this. Also you can tell that that official bodies know this, but will not acknowledge it, because its means they would have to acknowledge the reality of life from other spheres...
The moons orbit is changed because it is being removed from our planet. And I do not know where it is going. The Galactic Federation is removing the moon because it is an Anunakki Base. The former overlords of Earth, The Anunakki, used to moon as an instrument of terror to enslave the people of Earth. When they brought the moon here, some 13,000 years ago, it caused the Earth's axis to tilt creating severe annual weather changes. This frightened the hell out of the Earth people, and the Anunakki provided "protection" from the weather. Does this sound familiar? Create a terrifying problem, then have the solution ready so that the antagonist can look like a savior. Its one of their best tricks...
So, as the moon gets towed from Earth our axis will correct itself. The severe annual weather patterns will cease. And Earths weather will become moderate continuously. This is but one of the many changes that will occur...
This content is not really suitable for overunity.com. I have made a Ning site which is more oriented towards or physical and spiritual changes...
http://scientilosopher.ning.com/
Check out my Astronomical Video Camera...
http://scientilosopher.ning.com/group/astronomy/forum/topics/avc10-the-astronomical-video
I have made some videos with it...
http://scientilosopher.ning.com/video/fullmoon-1
http://scientilosopher.ning.com/video/m42orion-1
http://scientilosopher.ning.com/video/jupiterandmoons-1
http://scientilosopher.ning.com/video/aldebaran-zoom
This is what I want to do next with the Astronomical Video Camera...
http://scientilosopher.ning.com/group/astronomy/forum/topics/avc20-in-design
Peace, Love, and Light...
Goodwill to All, for All is One...
The lunar orbit is not concentric but elliptical. The poles of the ellipse moving further apart each month. At some point it will not return. This elliptical degradation of a concentric orbit is due to the transfer of angular momentum of the Earth to the moon due to the fluidity of the Earth composition. Instead of the moon being held in a concentric or worse yet inward spiral orbit the oceans bulge and let the moon slip further and further away.
Quote from: sparks on December 11, 2009, 07:04:57 AM
The lunar orbit is not concentric but elliptical. The poles of the ellipse moving further apart each month. At some point it will not return.
Very interesting. That is probably where they will pick it up. An elliptical orbit suggests that it is artificial. Some people don't like the thought of the moon going away. Its a part of our culture. Its a religious icon. We seem to do fine when we cannot see the moon. But without tides and seasons there may be some adjusting to do...
Is the wave surfing community in with this? They want waves, they need the moon to show up in convenient, predicable places. And, it's a community that has time to sit at the shore, observe the moon, and take notes. The ones I've met were real weather freaks, better forecasters than on the news.
Quote from: z.monkey on December 11, 2009, 06:43:52 AM
I have been watching the moon very closely for the past couple of years. Its orbit is visibly changed and you don't need instruments to see this.
If the refractive index of the atmosphere has been changed ( by the use of chemtrails for instance, the position of moon would appear different.
I do hope that the intentions of the beings involved are for all lifeforms. A great number of them have become dependent on the tides for survival. So we get rid of our oversized sattelite most probably created by an asteroid collision blowing the core straight out the other side. Same asteroid induced the wobble that creates ages and knocked the Earth's mechanical axies out of alignment. This is a huge problem as compression of the atmosphere changes biannually. The energy transfer from hemisphere to hemisphere resulting in hurricanes flooding elnino all that. A planet in alignment with the solar orbit and no seasonal changes would be different for sure. How it would be I have no clue.
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/12/08/Hawaii-sees-highest-surf-in-decades/UPI-33121260280870/
The seas are agitated, "anomalous rogue waves", Tsunami....etc....
The signs are ALL there.
25 There will be signs in the sun, moon and stars. On the earth, nations will be in anguish and perplexity at the roaring and tossing of the sea. 26Men will faint from terror, apprehensive of what is coming on the world, for the heavenly bodies will be shaken. 27At that time they will see the Son of Man coming in a cloud with power and great glory. 28When these things begin to take place, stand up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.
Blessings in Yeshua
The evidence speaks for itself.....
http://www.backwoodshome.com/forum/vb/showthread.php?t=18430
http://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/sports/Weird-Rip-Currents-Spook-La-Jolla-Divers.html
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2009/12/08/Hawaii-sees-highest-surf-in-decades/UPI-33121260280870/
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/breaking/story/852054.html
http://www.gpb.org/news/2009/07/27/scientists-dont-know-whats-causing-freak-tides
http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/000200907241023.htm
The seas are agitated, and people, including the scientists, are perplexed....
The hour is late, we were well forewarned. One must place one's Faith in Whom may best be Found a secure Foundation.
Blessings in Yeshua
25And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations, with perplexity; the sea and the waves roaring;
26Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken.
27And then shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
28And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth nigh.
when the stars were right, the illuminati wanted to summon cuthulu.
and worship him as the inspiration for their lifestyle.
but instead, pleiadians showed up.
and they looked like big-headed blond barbie dolls.
and they wanted to spread peace and love and shopping spree's at the mall.
so what did the illuminati do ?
they threw a royal shit fit.
locking down as much "control" as possible.
because "control" was the only thing that put their blue blooded rich bastard nerves at ease.
and the current situation on earth, is the result.
with everything disintegrating into dust,
and barbie and ken insisting that the illuminati let disclosure of their big headed existence happen already.
One may succumb to "end times madness" if that is one's wish....
However, the Bible is quite accurate regarding this late hour.
And Who is Coming to set things Right.
Blessings in Yeshua
Nitinnun and TechStuf,
You are both right. I have been studying these end time scenarios long enough to draw parallels from both sides, actually many sides. Both of these stories have been around a long time. Don't forget that despite appearances, All things work together for good ultimately. This fantastic drama, drawn out over millenniums, is designed to raise our awareness and help us grow into our potential. It is true that the "space hippy" Pleiadians are trying to liberate the planet, and the Illuminati refuses to give up their control, which is why the economy is deadlocked right now. But there is a median in between, and it will be heaven that imposes the divine timeout, and bring everyone to a reasonable point of consensus. The Stargate in Norway is such an event. Everyone stops, says WTF, and tries to figure out what the hell that thing is. There will be more events like this, and their effect on us will become increasingly more profound, until we are so mystified that we forget about fighting and money. It will open our spirit senses and everyone will forget about the illusion that the illuminati call modern life. We will learn how to live as we are meant to live, Free! Look at Everything that has come before and consider it to be a school. Graduation day is coming, and it is called the Ascension...
Jesus was sent to us as a teacher as many have been sent before. Those who have spent their lives seeking to dominate will see they have wasted their lives in a futile attempt. They will question the meaning of life. This is why we are here. To learn that there is more joy and fullfillment in making another smile than all the riches in the world can buy. Spend your time cracking a whip if you will your efforts are futile. Your life is waisted. Humble yourself before the power of the Universe. You are God. God is you.
Right Sparks,
Its so simple, harmony, Oneness.
Each of us is a piece of the All...
Goodwill to All, for All is One...
QuoteHumble yourself before the power of the Universe. You are God. God is you.
God is you? Can you build a single cell...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVvvx5HGpLg
A nano electric motor, virtually 100% efficient, spinning at 100,000 RPMs....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NFgjiumiAw
No, such teachings are from the wicked one, who told Adam and Eve that they would be as "gods' knowing Good and evil.
We can be One with the Living God, Yahweh, in Yeshua, Jesus Christ....but to believe one's self AS god, is blasphemy....and all who have usurped such a position have caused much, and ended in, tragedy.
To truly humble one's self, one must first know that they are NOT "Gods" but part of God's Truly Wonderous Creation.
Soon enough, Yeshua's Return, in the cloud with Power and Great Glory will begin to fill the skies, and on that Day, Who will be able to Stand?
Those who truly Know Him, and follow His Righteous Commandments.
Blessings in Yeshua
i do agree
a god is the wrong term for WHAT WE ARE ...
the GODS ... ARE MY PARENTS ...
TY!
im but a child!
and im subject to punishment from them just as humans are ... if
you reserch you will find RA was the last of the gods ... to walk ... so it only makes sence HE IS FIRST TO AWAKE ...
kinda makes sence ... ya think ... as humans move forward in time .. our answers come from back further and further ...
how ever ... this is 0 point and the father is the sun !
dont for get that !
H
btw this ALL FITS TOGATHER WITH THE TRUTH ...
electricty electromagnetics and gravity .. i wont get int this too much ...
that is a PERSONAL TASK EACH MUST COME TO TERMS WITH it will do you no good me explaining this to you ..
altho i will say this this is all a natrual event of the cycle as per the design ..
what that means is your soul engeries are gonna RINGGGGGGGGG by design ... some ringgg early as per order structure .. and others ring late ... ALL WILL RINGGGGGG ... how do i know ...
lol
only cuz i wanted to know ..
agin i ask what christ means? it means to know!
Perhaps I should have said we are comprised of God. We are just part of a whole. I never try to isolate myself from the Universe. You are part of it just go with the flow. Sure this bag of bones will go away but as a legacy I hope to leave behind as many harmonious vibrations as possible. I will be forgotten so what. The vibrations will continue.
i could not say that better BRO...
we are all children of the GARDEN and it needs RESTORED NOW! NOT TOMMOROW ....
RIGHT NOW!
w815
bill :)
a tree is 2/3 positive,
and 1/3 negative.
the tree's wood is the positive connection.
the space around the tree is the negative dis-connection.
most of the starseeds were more than 2/3 positive,
and less than 1/3 negative.
which means they could only shape a rounded, blunt tree.
that had too short/simple of branches.
they could not shape the optimal 2/3 and 1/3 tree,
that creates the largest amount of polarization.
that gives the largest amount of energy, to the tree.
so the starseeds incarnated onto this planet.
because this planet was the best possible place,
in which to learn the constructive parts of negativity.
so the starseeds could beef cake up their negativity,
and make that 1/3 shine.
so that once they go back to 5D and 6D,
they will be able to go higher than just 5D and 6D.
yet still have any idea what they are doing.
and that is the story of why we incarnated onto this insidiously screwed up planet.
because despite its appearance, it had something that we needed.
we had to get the golden key out of the huge monsterous toad stomach.
and the huge monsterous toad didn't want to go down easily.
of all the millions of starseeds,
i have one of the firmest grasps on the golden key.
mainly because i suffered extremely,
in just the right ways,
to find the key.
i've been so emotionally mummified,
that i might not be able to go to 4D or above this time around.
my fight or flight mechanism is fused into the on position.
but that doesn't matter.
because getting this freaking key,
was a far harder task,
than going back to 5D will be.
Quote from: sparks on December 12, 2009, 07:33:07 AM
Jesus was sent to us as a teacher as many have been sent before.
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Did you take note of the one sent to us after Jesus? If Jesus is real from the vague recollections in the year zero, one that came almost 20 centuries later sure should be hard overlooked, sough after so vigorously by billions of god fearing superbeings.
How did this become religic anyway?
And, if this is the end of time, can we conclude mankind is actually a failed creation? That would suck as an invention. Yes, we were created, and we were the creator's worst work, despite all the help we got.
mankind is not a failure.
mankind is a training ground.
souls incarnate onto this planet,
get the living stuffing beaten out of their well being in some way or another,
learn something useful (if they are lucky and smart),
then incarnate onto some other planet.
another planet, where the suck-factor is much lower.
yet the opportunity for spiritual growth, is also much lower.
earth is a free will planet.
a planet where there are no imposed rules.
the rules of our legal system,
are just some furry monkeys thinking they have a right to boss others around.
they are not REAL rules, that were decided and agreed upon by a majority of the population.
then enforced by either magnetic technology, or the spiritual heirarchy.
for example, on many other planets, it has been implemented so you cannot swear.
if you try to swear, there is magnetic resistance against you doing so.
if you try to swear lightly, you just mumble and stutter instead.
if you overcome the magnetic resistance with raw force,
you might barely be able to tell someone off.
in a horse whisper.
squeezing out 1 or 2 words.
if you really, really put your intent into the effort.
it works the same way for theft and murder.
but the definition of an action,
and the form of the resistance,
depend on the settings.
on some planets,
you merely hit a solid magnetic wall,
if you try to do something that is against a rule.
on other planets, they are less nice.
and the force of what you do, is turned back on you.
so if you tried to cave in someones skull with a hammer,
your "intent" and "effort" would be reversed
and your skull would get caved in instead.
under the very force that you created,
with the muscles in your arms.
every action in the universe, has a magnetic signature.
so any action can have magnetic resistance,
set against the action.
if you have the magnetic science that can do it.
it is very similar to magnetic manifesting of your will.
only it is in reverse.
but i have yet to make a post, explaining that subject.