Quote from: Peterae on December 01, 2009, 03:38:57 AM
I am not sure how much more i am going to post on this web site, i am pretty pissed off with Stefan for banning Poynt99, i have worked with poynt for over 2 years on my projects and owe a lot of my progress personally to him.
For instance if it wasn't for poynt guiding me in the right direction i would never of worked on the bifilar delayed circuit and found the sharp pulse effect and explosions in a wire.
Poynt has only ever questioned people's attitude to claiming OU without reasonable data, he has then helped these people to develop methods to test their circuits, putting hundreds of hours in many times.
He was the only person to gather data and try to make sense of the tpu and published a number of in depth reports to help people work out what was known.
Wilby posted in Rose's thread that he knows Poynts name and where he lives, this is a very serious threat bordering on criminal intentions, whats he going to do go and fire bomb Poynts house, well if stefan doesn't ban him for that then stefan really needs to think about winding this site down, he has the administration skill of an idiot.
Nuff said for now
Peter
I'll second all of that Peter! I actually received a PM from WilbyInebriated basically telling me (between the lines) to keep my mouth shut or I'll go the same way as Poynt99.
Well I have servers and I can knock up a forum in an evening along with nice graphics (actually one of my banner designs is on the top right of this site. Although stefan quantized it to 256 color ughh!) I can also register a nice .com name for it.
Perhaps I should set up a gentlemans free energy research club for us and other like minded researchers, poynt included of course. Then if any insubstantial blowhard comes along we exercise our rights as gentlemen to keep our clubhouse clean. Hmm what do you think?
Yes that's what I'll probably do, I just registered a .com domain name. Initial members will be selectively offered admin privilages. There will be no ads, it will be fast and free. Logic, objectivity and truthfulness will be the preferred atire.
Quote from: Peterae on December 01, 2009, 03:38:57 AM
@All
I am not sure how much more i am going to post on this web site, i am pretty pissed off with Stefan for banning Poynt99, i have worked with poynt for over 2 years on my projects and owe a lot of my progress personally to him.
For instance if it wasn't for poynt guiding me in the right direction i would never of worked on the bifilar delayed circuit and found the sharp pulse effect and explosions in a wire.
Poynt has only ever questioned people's attitude to claiming OU without reasonable data, he has then helped these people to develop methods to test their circuits, putting hundreds of hours in many times.
He was the only person to gather data and try to make sense of the tpu and published a number of in depth reports to help people work out what was known.
Wilby posted in Rose's thread that he knows Poynts name and where he lives, this is a very serious threat bordering on criminal intentions, whats he going to do go and fire bomb Poynts house, well if stefan doesn't ban him for that then stefan really needs to think about winding this site down, he has the administration skill of an idiot.
Nuff said for now
Peter
poynty got banned for his behavior and abuse of priveleges. stefan was right for doing so.
i posted no such thing in rose's thread. regarding your ridiculous assumptions about fire bombs, etc. you really need to cease with such hyperbole and grandstanding. i should be banned for saying that if i am ever in his neighborhood i might drop by his house with a pint to cheer him up? ::) and somehow you twist that into a possible fire bombing? are you mental? good grief man, get a grip... defamation and slander is an actionable offense, i advise you to choose your words a little more carefully.
@yucca
you recieved a pm from me telling you why poynty was banned, nothing more.
regarding your idea, i think it's great. don't let the door hit you where the good zeus split you...
edit: for the record here is the pm i sent yucca.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on November 30, 2009, 07:32:32 PM
poynt was banned because he could not refrain from posting logical fallacies or using his moderator powers in a malicious, vindictive manner. that and promising substance while delivering none. let's not cry over spilt milk. using terms like charlatan carpet bagger is a logical fallacy, known as ad hominem... we don't need another person tossing those about.
I shan't be letting any door hit me anywhere oh wise commander in chief ::), and that's not a "logical fallacy" you berk!
I hope you speak good German because I do!
Please don't go offtopic here.Start own thread.I saw that on other threads and it soon flood it to monstrous size of many pages of bla bla bla ble bla...well ... unrelated ;D
Quote from: forest on December 01, 2009, 12:29:24 PM
Please don't go offtopic here.Start own thread.I saw that on other threads and it soon flood it to monstrous size of many pages of bla bla bla ble bla...well ... unrelated ;D
I agree, anyone who is not building or researching the topic in hand should simply leave this thread and stop provoking those interested in the subject.
Quote from: Peterae on December 01, 2009, 03:38:57 AM
Wilby posted in Rose's thread that he knows Poynts name and where he lives, this is a very serious threat bordering on criminal intentions, whats he going to do go and fire bomb Poynts house, well if stefan doesn't ban him for that then stefan really needs to think about winding this site down, he has the administration skill of an idiot.
to the moderator who is moving posts. i expect the above quote to be removed from peterae's post . i will not tolerate insinuation that i am a fire bomber or that i have threatened poynt or that i have any criminal intentions towards him. this is absolutely ludicrous that the above post has been allowed to remain.
if it is not removed i will be taking actions, legal or otherwise.
yawn ::) perhaps someone needs another nip to get properly inebriated :D
Please send me an invitation when you have the site running.
I see no mistakes made by .99.
The mistake was with the actions and ridiculous responses of others. There are plenty of foul mouthed blah, blah ingrates that should be banned on this forum.
As for Wilby, all he ever says is "You are ignoring this user. Show me the post."
BEP
Count me in too for a new forum.
Really sad what happened here to Poynt and Grumpy.
Spider
Yes, let's not forget grumpy, the place isn't the same without him, like a good worn sofa being pulled from a clubhouse, place just isn't the same. And also everything he said was in my opinion completely warranted.
This place seems to becoming polarised thanks to the vandalous acts of tyranny being carried out by certain individuals, very sad really.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on December 01, 2009, 01:45:15 PM
to the moderator who is moving posts. i expect the above quote to be removed from peterae's post . i will not tolerate insinuation that i am a fire bomber or that i have threatened poynt or that i have any criminal intentions towards him. this is absolutely ludicrous that the above post has been allowed to remain.
if it is not removed i will be taking actions, legal or otherwise.
You clearly have no idea how the legal system works or what a slander or libel action requires. To win, you have to show damages to your reputation. Since you are not known here by your real name, you have suffered no real damages. Your made up persona may be smeared, but when you go out to the real world, you know, where we all spend 99% of our lives, no one knows about your alleged fire bombing.
So you go take your actions, legal or otherwise, but I suspect most of your action will involve pounding sand.
Quote from: BEP on December 01, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
There are plenty of foul mouthed blah, blah ingrates that should be banned on this forum.
You will be welcome, the new forum will have mandatory dress code of civility, objectivity and truthfulness, any blowhard non constructives will be shown the door.
Quote from: utilitarian on December 01, 2009, 02:42:50 PM
You clearly have no idea how the legal system works or what a slander or libel action requires. To win, you have to show damages to your reputation. Since you are not known here by your real name, you have suffered no real damages. Your made up persona may be smeared, but when you go out to the real world, you know, where we all spend 99% of our lives, no one knows about your alleged fire bombing.
So you go take your actions, legal or otherwise, but I suspect most of your action will involve pounding sand.
i know how the legal system works ::)
click here and let me google that for you... (http://lmgtfy.com?q=libel%20on%20the%20internet)
and an exerpt from that search
If you find yourself a defendant in a defamation case, this could easily be your worst nightmare. Consider the following:
1. Unable to Defend: As with Everiss’ case, the lawsuit is being threatened in a jurisdiction he has no ability to defend himself in. Financially it is infeasible to defend the case.
2. Jurisdiction Shopping: If Evony LLC is able to win the right to sue in Australia despite being a China-based company, it would open the doors for companies and individuals to “shop†for the most friendly jurisdiction simply because the defamatory material was “published†there. UK and Australia, for example, are known to have plaintiff-friendly defamation laws.
3. Application of Other Laws: Finally, something that might not be considered defamation in your country could be considered as such in another, opening the door to being sued even when you obeyed the laws to the best of your ability.
In short, though such broad jurisdiction for defamation cases is a boon for potential plaintiffs, it could easily have a chilling effect on speech, forcing those who publish on the Web to write for the lowest common denominator when it comes to libel law.
next time i'm in your neighboorhood i'll bring you a pint as well. :)
long story short, stefan doesn't need people like peterae bringing trouble to his doorstep by their actions... yawn ::)
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on December 01, 2009, 03:17:06 PM
i know how the legal system works ::)
click here and let me google that for you... (http://lmgtfy.com?q=libel%20on%20the%20internet)
and an exerpt from that search
next time i'm in your neighboorhood i'll bring you a pint as well. :)
long story short, stefan doesn't need people like peterae bringing trouble to his doorstep by their actions... yawn ::)
It appears you did some random Google search for defamation. Thanks for posting the results, but we can all copy and paste random junk too.
Little of what you cite relates to your specific case and the difficulty you are going to have proving defamation damages to your online persona, which cannot easily be tied to a real person. No damages means no case.
Furthermore, how are you going to sue someone when you have no idea of his real identity either? Your threats are comical.
Quote from: utilitarian on December 01, 2009, 03:50:32 PM
It appears you did some random Google search for defamation. Thanks for posting the results, but we can all copy and paste random junk too.
Little of what you cite relates to your specific case and the difficulty you are going to have proving defamation damages to your online persona, which cannot easily be tied to a real person. No damages means no case.
Furthermore, how are you going to sue someone when you have no idea of his real identity either? Your threats are comical.
it wasn't random, it was specific, you can read a search query can't you? yes, i know, you post random junk quite often as well as logical fallacies, flawed arguments, etc. yawn...
yawn... winning may or may not be the point. you obviously didn't understand the implications of what i cited.
how do you know i don't know his real identity? i know poynty's, i know yours... you are on the internet, you are not anonymous ::)
regardless, if stefan allows it to remain on his site i will take action.
Quote from: Yucca on December 01, 2009, 02:44:17 PM
You will be welcome, the new forum will have mandatory dress code of civility, objectivity and truthfulness, any blowhard non constructives will be shown the door.
You mean I gotta wear clothing? I can get away with nudity here!
Oh well, I guess I can put on my jammies for the new forum ;D
Wilby,
Please let us know at what time your case comes up on Judge Judy. I will be interested in her response when you tell her that his alias defamed your alias on the internet and then to hear you explain what type of damages were caused to your alias by his slanderous remarks. I was going to add something else but I don't want you to sue me too. :)
I don't really understand whats going on on this site. You have people such as Poynt, Grumpy and even Farrah Day, who all seem to know a thing or two. What did they say that was that bad to get them banned? I've agreed with most of their statements, so I'm pretty confused right now.
Here's to everyone that was wrongfully banned from this forum, and all of those that had the sense to leave on their own.
May they find free energy, get off the grid, power their vehicles, and share it with friends and family.
May the smack-talkers freeze in winter, fry in summer, and live in the dark.
Quote from: MrMag on December 01, 2009, 05:55:33 PM
Wilby,
Please let us know at what time your case comes up on Judge Judy. I will be interested in her response when you tell her that his alias defamed your alias on the internet and then to hear you explain what type of damages were caused to your alias by his slanderous remarks. I was going to add something else but I don't want you to sue me too. :)
I don't really understand whats going on on this site. You have people such as Poynt, Grumpy and even Farrah Day, who all seem to know a thing or two. What did they say that was that bad to get them banned? I've agreed with most of their statements, so I'm pretty confused right now.
yawn... i would imagine you were going to ad some hominem? careful now or you might end up on my cyberstalking fire bomb list ::)
it's simple. see this thread for why poynty is on read only.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8365.msg211610#msg211610
grumpy and farrah got their posting rights taken away for repeatedly responding with logical fallacies, mostly ad hominem. so there you have it. you might try reading/comprehending for yourself sometime, so people don't have to waste their time enlightening you...
Here's a post from Poynt
Guys,
A couple of days ago I was feeling down because I no longer had an outlet to share, help, and contribute as I've been doing for almost 4 years now on this forum. I began searching the net for other free energy research forums, and realized there really isn't much out there aside from lunatic fringe sites such as OU and EF, and a couple of others on Yahoo etc.. I did join one on Yahoo, and also an electronics forum, however it became apparent that these were not going to fully satisfy my interest in the field of overunity research. I had resolved to giving it a go anyway, but I also took a step into the world of blogging, since this offered simultaneously a personal yet public venue in which I could post in a variety of manners, topics, and levels of detail. I have not posted anything there yet (understandably I hope), but it has been set up. It will suffice for now to remain "private".
Then I began to receive PM's and emails from a number of good folks from OU that were expressing their surprise, disappointment, and support for me regarding my recent departure here. I also saw posts from Peterae, and Yucca and others (thanks guys) expressing the same, and I was touched. Up to this moment, there have been several more emails and now a thread discussing what's transpired and is somewhat electric with opinions and emotions. I'm inspired guys, perhaps even elated...thanks to all who have had the courage to come forward in this manner to stand for what they believe to be right.
I'd like to pay a particular thanks to Peterae. Peter has always stood up for me when required, and not only is he a good friend, he’s an excellent builder and researcher. Peter and I began collaborating back in the day when Mike's replication of Bedini's Window Motor was the sizzling topic of the day, and I was posting as z_p_e. Yes that's me too, for those that may not already know. Peter and I still collaborate to this day although we've explored differing interests the last number of months.
Which, in a round about way brings me to WilbyInebriated. Wilby surreptitiously obtained quite a lot of information about me as most of you may know by now, and made a rather obtuse and taunting post implying as much. I’m not happy about this, but let bygones be bygones. The PM notification I received at my ISP address was a result of Wilby sending me a PM to my z_p_e account at OU, and it is for this reason that I thought it was fake. It was not faked and I apologize for and retract the accusation. However, since Wilby feels he “has something on me†with his latest covert data acquisition, allow me to curtail that misbelief by revealing my name to you; it's Darren Kozey. I felt that since I'm no longer part of this forum, that it was a fitting enough time to reveal this information, for what it's worth.
I sense a real change and a building-up of positive momentum guys. Our own "truth" movement if you will. It's time. There is a real need (and strong desire) for a free energy research forum that caters to truth, objectivity, integrity, respect, and forward thinking. Supplement these with sharing, learning, and creativity, and I think we can achieve what I think we all want--an honest venue where individuals are responsible for what they say or do and believe strongly in integrity and getting to the truth. A place for all to learn and grow, and just as important, openly and rightfully question with impunity what they may encounter along the way.
Alas, this is indeed in the works. All will be welcome (well, almost all). I am going to go out on a limb and state that there will be no advertisements, and there will be no "guests" lurking and using up bandwidth. Everyone will be respected and given a chance regardless of technical level. Each is responsible on their own to maintain that respect. Those that disrespect the guidelines will eventually be "weeded out". Outright claims will most likely not be tolerated unless backed up with reasonable evidence. This is especially pertinent for individuals that clearly demonstrate they posses little or no formal technical training.
Some of you will be invited personally, and others may ask for membership if you desire. Again, I would suggest that all are welcome. I believe in second chances, and perhaps there are some folks that may eventually become stagnant and dismayed with OU, so don't be shy, look us up!
These are indeed exciting times ahead!
Cheers,
Darren
Quote from: BEP on December 01, 2009, 02:03:38 PM
Please send me an invitation when you have the site running.
I see no mistakes made by .99.
The mistake was with the actions and ridiculous responses of others. There are plenty of foul mouthed blah, blah ingrates that should be banned on this forum.
As for Wilby, all he ever says is "You are ignoring this user. Show me the post."
BEP
The MISTAKE he Make was He Intercepted PRIVATE EMAIL DIRECTED TO STEPHAN THEN BLATANTLY POSTED THEM IN AN OPEN FORUM . HE ABUSED MOD PRIVILEGES > AND SHOWED WHO HE REALLY IS > ALSO THERE IS NO PROJECTS IN THIS THREAD OTHER THAN PROJECT WANABE AS NO HAS DISCUSSED ANYTHING OTHER THAN PITY FOR THE ABUSER . SEE HIM FOR WHAT HE REALLY IS AND YOU WILL FIND HE CONTRIBUTED NOTHING AT ALL . NOT ONE EXPERIMENT E HE IS NOT BUT ONE OF 600 MILLION PEOPLE, A SPECK OF SAND LIKE WE ALL ARE > JUDGE AND YOU WILL BE JUDGED >
Quote from: gadgetmall on December 02, 2009, 08:45:36 AM
The MISTAKE he Make was He Intercepted PRIVATE EMAIL DIRECTED TO STEPHAN THEN BLATANTLY POSTED THEM IN AN OPEN FORUM . HE ABUSED MOD PRIVILEGES > AND SHOWED WHO HE REALLY IS > ALSO THERE IS NO PROJECTS IN THIS THREAD OTHER THAN PROJECT WANABE AS NO HAS DISCUSSED ANYTHING OTHER THAN PITY FOR THE ABUSER . SEE HIM FOR WHAT HE REALLY IS AND YOU WILL FIND HE CONTRIBUTED NOTHING AT ALL . NOT ONE EXPERIMENT E HE IS NOT BUT ONE OF 600 MILLION PEOPLE, A SPECK OF SAND LIKE WE ALL ARE > JUDGE AND YOU WILL BE JUDGED >
I stand by my earlier statement.
In addition: I do judge him for what I have seen from him. Same for Grumpy and Farrah Day. All have been a pain in my back-side a time or two but all added value to this forum. I fear it is only based upon hit-counts right now.
Back at ya -- JUDGE AND YOU WILL BE JUDGED
Let me know when you have that OU prize money.
BEP
Well I never knew that @poynt99 was @z_p_e. I thought @z_p_e left for personal reasons without much elaboration and I was really sad to see him go. He was indeed, and I guess still is very helpful to all hear, except for those whos agenda is to bring us non-OU mahem.
@Stefan
May I suggest that you please re-instate both @Poynt99 and @Grumpy and then next move is to kick out this lawyer weilding @WillyNilly out of this forum once and for all.
The guy is simply an OU devil, and it is a known fact that he creates havoc and discord everywhere he sticks his cruddy little nose. Sorry @W but you fit the profile of a real sicko and it is more then obvious that you have no real intent on helping anyone here. You just can't help stirring up shit. In any case, any member making threats of sicking their lawyer on other members should be banned immediately, no questions asked.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on December 01, 2009, 08:37:24 PM
yawn... i would imagine you were going to ad some hominem? careful now or you might end up on my cyberstalking fire bomb list ::)
it's simple. see this thread for why poynty is on read only.
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=8365.msg211610#msg211610
grumpy and farrah got their posting rights taken away for repeatedly responding with logical fallacies, mostly ad hominem. so there you have it. you might try reading/comprehending for yourself sometime, so people don't have to waste their time enlightening you...
Repeatedly responding with logical fallacies. WOW, I could think of a whole lot of people who fall in this category. And thanks for enlightening me however, you better be careful with the enlightenment since that is why these three gentlemen have been banned. They caused you to THINK, not just run off at the mouth. It is also funny that the people who are happy to see them go are the same people who these three have questioned or challenged.
I would really like to see them back. They brought some reality to this forum.
Stephan, please give them their posting rights back. They are needed here.
It is strange indeed when a good man such as Poynt gets "read only" status after having contributed so much of value over the years, while a mouthpiece can stay and yap. Grumpy has also been a valuable contributor and suffered the same fate.
I have known these gentlemen and their skills for over three years on this forum, and can attest to their worthiness to be here.
One can only guess that the forum has degenerated over the years and like a ship whose captain has been away on "other business", some of the "mob have come to hold sway"
I stopped posting a while ago because of this. It is no longer a gentleman's club but has turned into a rowdy bar scene where those who would be intoxicated are loudly heard above others.
Excuse me, but I will have to be taking my patronage elsewhere.
.....V
Quote from: MrMag on December 02, 2009, 11:07:29 AM
Repeatedly responding with logical fallacies. WOW, I could think of a whole lot of people who fall in this category. And thanks for enlightening me however, you better be careful with the enlightenment since that is why these three gentlemen have been banned. They caused you to THINK, not just run off at the mouth. It is also funny that the people who are happy to see them go are the same people who these three have questioned or challenged.
I would really like to see them back. They brought some reality to this forum.
Stephan, please give them their posting rights back. They are needed here.
yes. like yourself with regard to your posts to ist? ad hominem has no place here. point of fact that is exactly why there is such polarization and emotion, because such behavior is not nipped in the bud. at least stefan recognizes such behavior is detrimental to this place and has started to take appropriate actions. they didn't cause me to think... lol that's asinine. i cause myself to think. for the record, i was not happy to see poynty go. you all seem to think this is something personal, poynty in particular, it is not. i was very disappointed to see him spiral downwards and start vindictive threads with no substance. he is an intelligent person, he just needs to stay off his pejorative pedestal and act his age. as do we all...
like sands through the hourglass so are the days of OUr lives... this soap opera is getting old.
Wilby and his dog Simmons, the only one that truly understands him..."
(Some say that people tend to look somewhat like their dogs.)
Best to leave a forum when you can't toss a few "ad hominem's" around...
Quote from: Gobaga on December 02, 2009, 04:14:33 PM
Wilby and his dog Simmons, the only one that truly understands him..."
(Some say that people tend to look somewhat like their dogs.)
Best to leave a forum when you can't toss a few "ad hominem's" around...
LOL. that's not me, i don't live in california and certainly would never have a myspace page... ::) that is my dog though :) i do like how you addressed my points in your post, LOL. has utilitarian been coaching you?
best leave then... i'm sure you will be welcomed with open arms at yucca's or poynty's board... ad hom's for the everyone, on the house. :)
you know to be honest im just comeing off a read only ...
it is no fun being banned ... but it is clear you pissed someone off to be banned
i beleave stephan has been fair .. i can not argue being set to read only ..
this fighting really and honstelly must stop ... if you all want to learn more just as i do ...
dont think i have it all figured out ... it dont work like that friends ..
and all i know is fighting only slows things down ... the clock dont runn out 4 nuttin ..............
so i kindly ask everyone is reinstated and we all try agin the civilized aproch .. i do agree pony has special skills required to mesure such things ...
properly ...
as i said b4 ... keep it real ...
w
IST:
That sir, was a brilliant post.
Bill
Quote from: Yucca on December 01, 2009, 10:00:26 AM
Well I have servers and I can knock up a forum in an evening along with nice graphics (actually one of my banner designs is on the top right of this site. Although stefan quantized it to 256 color ughh!) I can also register a nice .com name for it.
If you start up a new site, I'll at least take a look and see what you're doing. I'm always looking to learn something.
--Lee
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on December 02, 2009, 11:52:43 PM
If you start up a new site, I'll at least take a look and see what you're doing. I'm always looking to learn something.
--Lee
you know ... and i mean no disrespect at all to anyone ...
but look at it like this ...
ok we have a messed up site ... im a good cause of it ... right ... sure .. i know
we have a messed up plannet ... im the cause but also are you ... so
because we have a messed up plannet ... does that mean we jump to mars to escape our problems of earth ... no... lol
so because there dissagreements here does that mean we make a new home ...
well some say yes others say no ... and many dont know any better ... yikes ..
the answer is not to leave ... BUT FIX IT ..
and guess what you only get 1 ... just like you have only 1 earth ...
so basically jumping ship ... aint fixing 1 thing ... just like mars what humans do not realize ... there is no where to run .. it is the time to FACE THE TRUTH...
the truth is ... ALL YOU EVER HAVE KNOWEN IS NOT YOURS ... all is borrowed..
this is why you will not pattend my work sorry .. it is not mine .. nor is it yours ..
basically you wont run to mars.. cuz its gonna get hot there too... so .. yea your cut at the lower 12 ... what more need i say ..
you graduate or you fail ...
this is how it has always been but this time ... i stepped in ... so be it! cuz im not allowing it to destroy its self AGIN... cuz it will not be rebuilt!
w this is the time of the 5th sun ..... 4 other times .. earth has failed ... i came back to see that you make it ...
BUT THE IGRONANT DOLTS .. STEAL MY WORK .. AND GIVE YOU NOTHING ..
remember who drives the ship... and remember whos work this ship is based upon ....
just to clear it up ... it is a race ... good to bad ... the game is wich one gets here first...
HELLO were all ready here ... i have planet earth on quarenteen! till you stop fighting .. conversion from dark to light in progress.. according to karma.... picks your delivery date...
Solutions
1) Reinstate both @Grumpy and @Poynt99.
2) Final warning to @Willy.
---He must post a public apology.
---He will be bound by one rule, shape up or ship out.
---He must agree to the following:
START
I agree to abide by the notion that every OverunitydotCom member is already aware of the immense difficulty in the task at hand. Regardless, I endeavor in this field should this path lead me or others to helpful discoveries, other than that of achieving overunity. I believe that the possibility of overunity is a reachable goal, but I am humbled at the odds. I will endeavor to become a helpful member of the forum and do my best to refrain from posting derogatory and insulting comments. I will respect other members and realize that any effort in the OU field, given that we are all faced with confronting so many odds as well as the public ridicule this may entail, that both of these provide even more reasons for members to stick together, protect each other and offer the highest level of mutual respect.
STOP
3) If the member refuses solution #2, ban him.
Basic rule: Don't come on this board to enlighten members that what we are doing is impossible. We already know that and doing so just shows how much of a nimrod you are.
Now if solution 1 is not possible, then I ask anyone making a new forum to please reserve all the known user names here so we each can have them there should we elect to. Although I do agree with @IST that preserving things here is much better, I will also not stand by and let members of such long standing be banned for such frivolous reasons.
wattsup
@wattsup
I'll second that.
wattsup:
Frivolous reasons? You have to be kidding me. In poynt's case, besides harassing the good members of the JT topics and posting incorrect information over and over, he also posted private pm's that were not addressed to him. He also edited them to make them look much different then when they were originally sent and then posted them in a locked topic so no one could respond and correct his abusive twist of personal and private pm's. Sounds like a number of serious TOS violations there to me. I would hardly call that frivolous at all. Also, do we need to post here how many times he was warned to cease this disruptive behavior? He chose to continue and suffered the consequences. As stated in Stefan's post on the matter, he was banned for abusing his moderator privileges.
Maybe he acted more normal in some of the other topic areas were some of you know him from, but with all my time on this, and other forums, I have never seen such rude behavior and TOS violations from a single individual.
As far as Farah goes, same thing. He was harassing other forum members and was warned to cease. He continued. Stefan warned him and he basically told Stefan to jump in the lake, and continued...so Stefan had no choice with him either.
Why folks can't follow simple TOS rules and, not to mention the etiquette of decent, civil behavior is beyond me.
Bill
@wattsup
Agreed but folks should just read the TOS first and stick with that.
My view... Poynt opened threads for the purpose of understanding the reality of other subjects, including sharing the correct way to perform related measurements. Under either handle he was always about finding the technical truth and sharing his knowledge (even when he and I were in heated and complete disagreement).
One of those threads was wrongly jammed into that megalith of a thread, related by name only, that is all about how long it takes most folks to understand how a blocking oscillator works. Folks there saw the merge and freaked out.
All the while Poynt was busy fighting off the idiocy of a couple of now famous members and trying to rebuild what was dumped into the sewer.
I would have deleted the same stupid posts from my own thread if the site manager didn't do it before me.
Farah Day was obnoxious in my opinion, but she posted the facts as she knew them and those facts are well proven and published. As far as her hatred for a single member... It would have been better to <IGNORE>.
There are very few members worth reading anymore. There are certainly no new experiments or results. Virtually all new posts have absolutely nothing to do with the massive task of finding new energy or better answers.
I am done here.
Most real experimenters have already left. ‘A work bench and a YouTube account’? What crap. There are very few here with the equipment and workspace I use every chance I can. As far a YouTube goes… stupidity at the highest. If you have something that seams real, pass it on to a very few trusted souls. Don’t broadcast it to the world. You just draw the flies you see gathering here. Broadcast only after it is confirmed and repeatable by those with equal or greater talent.
Don't bother banning me.
When the BS is cleaned out I may hear about it and return.
BEP
A message from Poynt
Hey Guys,
For anyone interested in the new forum we're building, please send me and email to poynt99"at"overunityresearch.com. I can not respond to PM's here, so let me know. Be glad to hear from you.
No guarantees, but we may have something up by the end of next week. Thank you Yucca-- guru site designer.
Looking forward to seeing many of you there; including but not nearly limited to: Pirate, Fuzzy, Rose, Harvey, Gadget, Broli, et al. Many of you (in particular the old gang) already know you're in and can be expecting contact soon ;)
Cheers,
.99
A message from Poynt
Greetings all,
Just a quick message to let everyone know OUR new site is now up and open for new registrations.
Although we strongly encourage you to register, we've decided to leave the site open to the public for now, which means registration is not required to view the forum. The forum is clean, with no advertisements, and has a nice look and feel. We are especially happy with the chat feature that has been incorporated, which allows folks to chat in real time while they are logged in to the forum. There is a public chat channel, and of course private channels can be used as well. Indeed, each separate board has its own channel, so folks that are working on one particular project can all hang out and converse in that one board's channel if they wish. Having the chat feature will also greatly reduce the number of one-liner posts, and will even facilitate the need to sort out debates and discussions that occur from time to time. They can be taken off-line and handled more directly so to speak, which keeps the threads cleaner and on-topic.
The site is new and still a work in progress, but it is quite usable even now. We're quite happy with the results of OUR efforts thus far, so come by and sign up--we'd be glad to see you there, and all are invited.
Go to overunityresearch.com to register, and don't forget to activate your account. All we ask is that folks abide by and respect the forum guidelines.
See you there, and welcome in advance to OUR forum.
Regards,
.99