This looks promising! Simple DC input and output,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lYanUKCVT4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lYanUKCVT4)
Input: 1.0V, 1.4A DC (1.4W)
Output: 12V, 0.4A DC (4.8W)
COP = 3.43 (4.8W/1.4W)
This is the Tong Po Chi Lead-Out Energy Machine
Here's another one, although they do not show the measurement details, which is why I like the 1st video. I know the following video has been posted here before,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lYanUKCVT4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lYanUKCVT4)
"This machine uses input of less than 100 watts and outputs at least 500 watts. Overunity is an absolute certainty."
There's a huge thread about this,
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2794.msg216059#new
Of these two videos I like the 1st better. Nice straight forward DC measurements.
Can we have a Tong Po Chi Lead-Out Energy Machine thread as well?
My apologies but … where are the actual measurements? ???
All I can see is several figures written on a piece of paper…
Is it about trust? ;D
Hi tinu,
My way of life is to always give the *unknown* the benefit of doubt. If it's interesting enough to me, then test the claim. The moment it the probabilities show that it's a false claim, then ... it turns into a different story!
I am against what skepticism has turned into. IMO it has become flawed. I'm just glad the court systems in the USA don't prosecute people until they data is in and after they've analyzed the data. Have an open minded & give the benefit of doubt until enough data is in and been analyzed. Just because it goes against ones belief system is not a legitimate reason to judge it as being wrong.
looks good.
the other thread is too messy.
this thread looks better.
I wish the thread owner could make a thread private such that only certain people by invitation could post, but everyone could read the thread. Threads can easily become destroyed.
Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 21, 2009, 01:48:16 PM
I wish the thread owner could make a thread private such that only certain people by invitation could post, but everyone could read the thread. Threads can easily become destroyed.
I think that is an excellent idea!
Although in this case it would be maybe a little problematic. To get Lawrence Tseung, the inventor, to come and post in this thread, you would also need to invite at least half dozen of his alternate personas. His favorite activity, aside from standing known physics on its head, seems to be agreeing with and praising himself using multiple monikers.
Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 21, 2009, 11:26:18 AM
Hi tinu,
My way of life is to always give the *unknown* the benefit of doubt. If it's interesting enough to me, then test the claim. The moment it the probabilities show that it's a false claim, then ... it turns into a different story!
I am against what skepticism has turned into. IMO it has become flawed. I'm just glad the court systems in the USA don't prosecute people until they data is in and after they've analyzed the data. Have an open minded & give the benefit of doubt until enough data is in and been analyzed. Just because it goes against ones belief system is not a legitimate reason to judge it as being wrong.
This is a good point, On top of that, there is heavy marketing for a device on the thread parallel to this.
Some authentic circuital grace is requested.
It would also be nice if the camera weren't turned on it's side.
Quote from: PaulLowrance on December 21, 2009, 11:26:18 AM
Hi tinu,
My way of life is to always give the *unknown* the benefit of doubt. If it's interesting enough to me, then test the claim. The moment it the probabilities show that it's a false claim, then ... it turns into a different story!
I am against what skepticism has turned into. IMO it has become flawed. I'm just glad the court systems in the USA don't prosecute people until they data is in and after they've analyzed the data. Have an open minded & give the benefit of doubt until enough data is in and been analyzed. Just because it goes against ones belief system is not a legitimate reason to judge it as being wrong.
Hi Paul,
I salute and share your views but I know and I’m sure you also know for a fact (from joule thief tests if not from other experiments) that those measurements can be anything in the world but not “simple DC input and outputâ€. They are heavily pulsed both at input and output. Being so, I’d expect to see at least a description of the measuring technique and at least a glimpse of those meters…Instead, one is presented only a piece of paper, which I found to be no more than a fine piece of astonishingly naive amusement.
Best regards,
Tinu
Hi All,
here are now the backups of the RomeroUK Videos:
RomeroUK + Muller generator = 10 W free energy HD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T1lBhkZI7Ds