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Title: New running gravity wheel demo video
Post by: hartiberlin on December 29, 2009, 09:02:18 PM
Hi All,
here is a new video of a new wheel:

http://www.youtube.com/user/alberto700#p/a/u/0/Pm9eJsLlP4M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pm9eJsLlP4M

Looks very interesting.

I wonder how it will exactly work ?

Many thanks.

Regards, Stefan.
Title: Re: New running gravity wheel demo video
Post by: markdansie on December 29, 2009, 11:41:19 PM
without further information I would have to conclude it is powered by very large hampsters
Kind Regards
Mark
Title: Re: New running gravity wheel demo video
Post by: powerunlimited on December 30, 2009, 01:39:58 AM
It might be the hamsters from the kia commercials turning it,there big enough :D
Title: Re: New running gravity wheel demo video
Post by: hartiberlin on December 30, 2009, 04:40:43 PM
I just got his reply on Youtube messages:

Re: Gravity wheel infos ?
Hi! Thanks for your interest.
Get energy from the gravity is possible.
Continue the experiments that I did 25 years ago require a lot of money.
And I cannot guarantee this gonna works entirely.
Thomas Alva Edison fail 1,000 time to invent the bulb, but he had the resources.
Unfortunately I dont have the time and the capital to finish the experiments.
I have a huge inheritance of billions and real estate but I cannot get cash from it.
(see www.eblm.us and www.solutionsforall.net).
I just have a job to survive day by day, check by check.
My life is about rejection and poverty, year after year, and I am getting old.
May be I gonna be more lucky in the next life, if you beleive in the reincarnation.
May be the world gonna have to wait 300 years more to get this technology.
Check the topic of ENERGY here in YouTube to realize how much ideas we have to improve our life that the governments never promote.
Just wish me luck!!! Thanks Alberto
alberto_medina@yahoo.com
Title: Re: New running gravity wheel demo video
Post by: unbalanced on December 31, 2009, 08:32:44 PM

This seems to be a promising bit  of engineering on the surface. It encompasses many of the principals that have been discussed here and on other forums. What intrigues me most is that the pendulum wheel is seemingly only traveling through half of its natural oscillation, swinging to the 6:00 and then reversing. The outer wheel turns two-revolutions per second + or - for every half oscillation of the pendulum wheel which takes two-seconds per cycle.

This must surely be a refined model of earlier iterations as there are no extraneous holes drilled anywhere i.e. the crank throw has not been adjusted from place to place etc.

The PTO wheel (upper wheel) is seriously geared down and here lies the crux of this demonstration video. Is this PTO wheel driving a permanent magnet motor (a generator) or being driven by a motor?

The last half second of this video shows a direct connection between the second wheel over and the outer flying weight set. I was wondering why it was spinning.

Having recently studied a great deal about the behavior of a pendulum on a crank shaft, I was excited to see one incorporated into a new design.

Freeze framing has left me with some doubt as to whether the pendulum wheel reaches its apex at a point that is relative to the arc of the flying, weighted outer cross bars. If this thing is indeed a runner it would fulfill a great many of Bessler's clues; weights working in pairs, gaining momentum by their swinging, one cross bar barely sufficient to maintain rotation, etc. etc.

If this device is not a runner in its present configuration, I would suggest that varying the ratio of the pendulum arm length, to crank shaft throw might have positive results if a cycle could be consistently achieved where in the pendulum unweighted in the most appropriate place i.e. on the upswing.

All in all a very simple, unique and promising design. My hat is off to Alberto Medina. If this is not a runner, the world and our community of mass-shifting over-balancers would be the better off with a confession to this end rather than stirring up the ant hill with yet another wheel whose input is necessarily greater than its out put. Happy New Year to you all.

Title: Re: New running gravity wheel demo video
Post by: mr_bojangles on January 15, 2010, 10:38:35 PM
look at the axle, when it switches to the second angle you can see another wheel connected to the axle...what is that doing?

from the front angle it looks like its just hanging there, but after watching you will see it spins and doesn't appear to have a purpose, its just connected to the axle spinning

why would that be on there?
Title: Re: New running gravity wheel demo video
Post by: ekko on January 19, 2010, 07:20:19 PM
I think there are many gravity wheels now today that could work.

The important conditions are : that you have an unbalanced wheel AND that the acceleration of the up-going mass is bigger than the acceleration of gravity....

No way the mass could be lifted against the force of gravity if it has very little acceleration!
So the wheel needs a starting-speed to overcome gravity.

What we could learn from this guy is that it is very clever to bring the wheel up to the correct speed before aspecting some result.
Some disagree ?

I think Abeling mentioned this also.., no ?


Title: Re: New running gravity wheel demo video
Post by: ekko on January 19, 2010, 08:07:24 PM
Mmm ;D sorry, i looked at another movie that was linked to this one in youtube.

What i tried to point out is that some gravity wheel only starts working when there is an initial speed, making it possible for the unbalanced wheel to build up some netto acceleration.

I think sometimes its is necessary to start the wheel with a motor and as the wheel is building up every rotation some extra energy from gravity, at one point the motor is not longer needed, but can be used as a generator.


Title: Re: New running gravity wheel demo video
Post by: ekko on January 19, 2010, 08:44:43 PM
Regarding this wheel in the video:

Its like the guy is shifting the direction of the centripetal force with the weight at the little wheel.
Normally in a rotational movement the centripetal force is always directed to the center forcing the mass to make a rotation.

How does he do this? It takes a lot of energy to change the direction of the centripetal force from a rotating mass.

Is the netto-acceleration from the wheel put back into the inner wheel ? I dont now.