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Title: Bifilar question
Post by: angryScientist on January 03, 2010, 03:23:23 PM
Has anybody ever seen a bifilar coil wound like this, with an insulator separating the wire pairs from each other?

The reasoning behind this I want to use one of the wires in a tuned circuit and then manipulate the electrons in the tuned wire with the electric field of the other wire.

Is there anybody else out there that happens to be thinking in this way?
Title: Re: Bifilar question
Post by: sparks on January 03, 2010, 08:52:02 PM
   Been thinking about it alot.  Tesla did to.  His bifilar wound pancake coils create really good oscillators.  You wont catch the oscillations because they are occuring within the coil itself.  Once excited the energy amplification within the coil can be quite profound.
Title: Re: Bifilar question
Post by: Magluvin on January 03, 2010, 11:10:45 PM
I have done some playing with a bifi vs regular coil as in on a cylinder  as Angryscientist is winding.
As in magnetic motors, I dont see any difference with a series connected bifi vs regs with the same no. of turns.
But the pancake coils, as in Teslas drawings, they do not emit a great field. Like he said, he doesnt want the magnetic energy component to escape. In his drawings, he interacts with the pancake with a coil of a couple turns at the outer perimeter of the cake.
As for a bifi cylinder coil, what you are more likely making Angry is a transformer. Which is fine for your purpose. =]

Magluvin
Title: Re: Bifilar question
Post by: sparks on January 03, 2010, 11:42:24 PM
  You can take a short cut and use speaker wire wraped around the tube.  I want to do an experiment where the turns are actually just rings with no connection between turns.  Something like a voltaic pile but not of dissimilar metals but conductor insulator conductor insulator.  Then induce current in the first ring and see what happens in the last ring and when.  If it is fast then induce a current in the two outer rings but of opposite polarity and take it out with a wrap around the middle ring.  I gotta an idea there will be a little wave cancelling happenning in that middle ring.
Title: Re: Bifilar question
Post by: Magluvin on January 03, 2010, 11:57:29 PM
Sparks
Sounds like a MadScientist Idea!

Please show results of that one.  Its a Flux Inductor!  =]

Magluvin