Wavefront..
Vibration of 1-3 hz
Very slight resistance to moving in free air
The 35k pulse combines to create very low 1-3 HZ wavefront
Signal source : HP Agilent 3325A /001/002 set to 10v PP Square wave
1k 1/4w resistor between HP output and coil input << wont work without it
Oscilloscope : BITSCOPE MODEL 325 set to 10:1
Probe : 10:1 Analog Probe ( PRB-01 ) 100mhz set to 10MΩ
35165.5 HZ is the transition point where the wavefront changes direction
35156.0 HZ creates rotation opposite of 35157.0 HZ
Wavefront is 38.6v PP and can be tuned down to 1HZ
Complex intermodulation when the probe is placed on a tank reflector
Enjoy : Darkspeed
1. Left Wavefront
2. Right Wavefront
3. Darkspeed Coil ( shown without output coil in place )
4. Intermodulation on reflectors
5. 35,157 HZ @ 5ms
6. 35,157 HZ @ 1ms
7. 35,157 HZ @ 20us
8. 35,160 HZ @ 50ms << example of off frequency
I know I am loosing a lot of energy in noise at the moment as my short coils are not exactly tuned yet.
There may be some advantage to shift the base frequency up or down to get a wavefront of 6khz rather than 3hz where i am now.
Looking down on it : All coils rotate anti-clockwise ( in NA )
Construction:
standard 11lb magnet wire spool
weigh spool on lab scale
wind one layer of 28 awg 200c magnet wire
weigh spool on lab scale
subtract to get the weight of the wire ( 52g )
spool off 52g of 13 conductor litz wire (twice )
take one length of litz and wind it half way around a high frequency core - the remainder of the length of litz becomes the short coil at the end of the spool ( red wire )
do this again to get an identical coil at the other end of the spool.
place a lcr meter across the open ends of each coil to get the inductance in mh
close each circuit with the appropriate cap to get RF around 35k
double check your RF with a scope and a signal generator
it would be good to put a variable cap in line to tune the coils
In the photo I am driving the long coil and using the short coils to create reflections of the signal in the long coil, this is only for testing.
Ideally you would drive the top short coil which would transmit into the long coil which in turn would transmit into the short coil at the bottom which then recycles the signal and its harmonics through the core and back into the top coil to create a reinforcement - harmonic feedback
And as you get off signal the wavefront starts to break up rapidly like this at 36160.0 HZ
Interesting , you have traction ?
Are you able to show us the coils hook up , and lenghts etc?
thanks, Darkspeed
Lindsay
Very cool coil setup. =]
Magluvin
Speed
Its actually quite beautiful!!
And she don't drive to bad either ;D [also beautiful]
Chet
You could also use a tone generator and half wave rectification from a stereo on those frequencies, you would have to double the freqeuncy of the input wave to get the require pulse characteristics, and it would be ON just as much as OFF... it's not uncommon to get those voltages from a 20 to 30 watt stereo amplifier.
Thanks, I have been working with this coil design for a long time and had two other people comment that it felt crunchy when they tried to move it through the air. Im not saying it is how the TPU works but it seems like it may be heading in the right direction.
I have heard a lot of lab coat descriptions of how the TPU works from people who speculate, but honestly i dont think it is as complicated as people make it out to be, but i could be wrong.
Square wave, ultra short duty cycle ( low energy ) rings the bell
The ringing bell is where the extra energy comes from ( many copies of low energy = high energy )
The wavefront appears on the scope as low as 10mv so to test this setup requires very little power.
The output coils ( not shown ) are not parallel to receive the 35k + harmonics!
They are perpendicular to receive the wavefront, they are a tank at the wavefront RF, pulled through a resistor for tank isolation and then rectified for output.
Just tested moving the wavefront up to 6khz by shifting the base frequency.
10v PP (20v) input and im getting 19v PP (38v) reflection at 6khz
moving the frequency further kills the reflection and the output drops back to around 7v PP (14v)
Wow this is cool! Show us more pictures of that ever so pretty coil setup! :-D
Thanks!
I have been sitting on this idea but I know many minds are better than one..
Where i said
" 35165.5 HZ is the transition point where the wavefront changes direction "
I meant to say
" 35156.5 HZ is the transition point where the wavefront changes direction "
And NO my monitor is not set to 35156.5 HZ horizontal frequency ;D
very nice construction darkspeed, I like it.
I noticed you mentioned using a resistor in an output tank circuit (not shown) to preserve the Q of the tank, I would suggest an inductor, as it is not lossy, and at the frequency you're working with, it will have a high impedance. That's the standard approach used by many. ( because we need impedance matching to transfer the most power)
Now imagine your HV coil (gold colored) was not hooked up to a signal generator, but instead had a capacitor across it's leads to form a tank circuit that is resonant at a particular magnetic frequency that is external to your lab, like power line harmonics, WiFi signal, AM radio station, etc.. This is my approach to the Steven Mark TPU replication effort. Think about it, but don't abandon your line of research. ( we have to diversify our research to cover more ground )
EM
Yep, damn nice.
Looks like a Tesla coil primary bottom, into the secondary high voltage middle and back to another primary top, compress, expand, compress. Plus that top litz toroid. Lots of possibilities there to play with.
Thanks guys.
Yes EM in the photos it is in tune mode, you are correct there is a cap that goes across L2 to tank it.
The strange thing is 35156.5 HZ is a well known horizontal frequency of displays set to 800x600 and when i tank to around 35k I get a voltage rise between 35156 and 35157. I am nowhere near any other building and when i shut everything (at the buildings main breaker) down in the lab and scope i with an old analog scope, the voltage rise is still there.
I was talking to Grumpy about the possibility I was receiving 8v of power from someones monitor from a distance. There is a lot to play with is correct!
Im not trying to wind a TPU.. Im just looking for clues to the puzzel
Hi Darkspeed,
You are on ONE of the right frequencies I give in the last two pages of my thread. You need a 15" coil, and add the two modulation freqs with it, the 115 and 222khz, mix them and shoot them in as a standing wave to intermodulate...
You are on the right track...kind of...LOL
Cheers,
Bruce
Bruce, can you please give me a link to your thread???
Quote from: darkspeed on January 16, 2010, 07:12:01 PM
Bruce, can you please give me a link to your thread???
Hi Dark Speed,
Please start at the following and read to the end. You of all people will understand. Finally ... someone... LOL :o
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=2300.msg200211#msg200211
Cheers,
Bruce