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Title: Is this a Way out Idea?
Post by: strmrnnr on February 21, 2010, 09:30:17 PM
Has anyone tried or heard of anyone who has experimented with coils wrapped from coils of wire.

This is to say one very thin wire is wrapped around a straight piece of non-ferris wire in a single layer. This single layer coil is then wrapped into a new coil using the single layer coil as the wire.

I thought of the concept while viewing a video on wire coil beads.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQxQ4G8N970
Title: Re: Is this a Way out Idea?
Post by: jadaro2600 on February 21, 2010, 09:51:20 PM
Not so far out.

Watch here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiohQI1Zcuc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiohQI1Zcuc) how they make guitar strings.

Seems difficult to implement a very long string, but wouldn't be impossible.

10 years ago I requestied more information on a double coiled string, and they did not seem to know what I was asking for.  maybe I lacked the proper terminology for the explanation.

A wire coiled about a core wire, these in tun coiled about another core wire.
Title: Re: Is this a Way out Idea?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on February 22, 2010, 04:33:53 PM
Quote from: strmrnnr on February 21, 2010, 09:30:17 PM
   Has anyone tried or heard of anyone who has experimented with coils wrapped from coils of wire.
   This is to say one very thin wire is wrapped around a straight piece of non-ferris wire in a single layer. This single layer coil is then wrapped into a new coil using the single layer coil as the wire.
    I thought of the concept while viewing a video on wire coil beads.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQxQ4G8N970
I remember seeing a patent to that effect and I'm pretty sure I included it on be descriptive antenna coil patent thread somewhere in:

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7832.0

I admit there are lots of patents to wade through, but it should be there somewhere.


REEDIT:
The patent involved radio reception or telegraphy, since it was designed to be a type of antenna.

--Lee

Title: Re: Is this a Way out Idea?
Post by: jadaro2600 on February 28, 2010, 12:58:52 PM
*bump*

I still find this topic interesting, maybe someone else has some information about a coil winding machine?
Title: Re: Is this a Way out Idea?
Post by: infringer on February 28, 2010, 02:46:56 PM
how about a drill on low speed with different sized drill bits ?

Should work if done properly...

It has always been an idea of mine to try and wind coils in a fashion where the electric currents would pass by constantly crossing over each other maybe a weave of wires even I think coils are rather interesting and lots of coil builds have never really been tested or shown public ... Then freezing these coils with liquid nitrogen to see what kind of results occur.

The stuff is just not talked of or tested in public.
Title: Re: Is this a Way out Idea?
Post by: the_big_m_in_ok on February 28, 2010, 04:24:59 PM
Quote from: jadaro2600 on February 28, 2010, 12:58:52 PM
*bump*
I still find this topic interesting, maybe someone else has some information about a coil winding machine?
Okay, here's a video that I didn't look at but a few seconds of, but here it is:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN3heVGEEZc

REEDIT:
I came back later, and even without sound(unavailable to me), the setup seems straightforward.

--Lee