The below link shows and tells all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO9GhHvWGJA
Tom
Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 01, 2010, 04:41:06 PM
The below link shows and tells all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO9GhHvWGJA
Tom
lol , alot to learn in electronic, take your time, you will finally understand the basic of the basic. :) . Begin with Ohm law and after that delete your video.
Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 01, 2010, 04:41:06 PM
The below link shows and tells all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fO9GhHvWGJA
Tom
Hi Tom,
I have been following your work on youtube, very nicely done!
I would suggest, taking some very fast diodes and building a rectifier for the output, rectify it to dc, put it across a resistor and take a current measurment. I am very curious to see where it stands... If it is not OU, it in no way diminishes your work, you just keep being creative as you have been and push the envelope...
Cheers,
Bruce
Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 01, 2010, 04:41:06 PM
The below link shows and tells all.
http://www.A.com/watch?v=fO9GhHvWGJA
Tom
It actually it doesent tell a thing. Volt isn't energy itself. It's in theory no problem in generating several gigavolts out of a 1.5VAAA battery. The question is how much current it can carry. The output product of "current x voltage" cannot exceed the input product of "current x voltage".
That means that you will have a current drop as the voltage raises. And visa versa.
Vidar
[A author=Bruce_TPU link=topic=8990.msg235870#msg235870 date=1270192648]
Hi Tom,
I have been following your work on youtube, very nicely done!
I would suggest, taking some very fast diodes and building a rectifier for the output, rectify it to dc, put it across a resistor and take a current measurment. I am very curious to see where it stands... If it is not OU, it in no way diminishes your work, you just keep being creative as you have been and push the envelope...
Cheers,
Bruce
[/quote] Hi Bruce,
Hi Bruce,
Thanks for your comment. I will take your advice and do just that. I bought a true RMS multimeter and am waiting for its arrival. I always did wonder what kind of power output a spinning magnet under a load would have when spun by low DC voltage and current. I am having fun never the less.
Quote from: Low-Q on April 03, 2010, 12:44:43 PM
It actually it doesent tell a thing. Volt isn't energy itself. It's in theory no problem in generating several gigavolts out of a 1.5VAAA battery. The question is how much current it can carry. The output product of "current x voltage" cannot exceed the input product of "current x voltage".
That means that you will have a current drop as the voltage raises. And visa versa.
I agree with you. In my case I am focusing on what kind of power I can draw out of one spinning magnet. On the other side of the fence 6 dc volts/20 miliamps is spinning the magnet. The buck stops there. The magnet "itself" is providing all the displayed AC. I wish to see what kind of AC POWER that spinning magnet can generate and compare that power to the DC power used to spin a single magnet. I have not seen that done anywhere on the internet this way.
Vidar
Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 03, 2010, 08:41:19 PM
[A author=Bruce_TPU link=topic=8990.msg235870#msg235870 date=1270192648]
Hi Tom,
I have been following your work on youtube, very nicely done!
I would suggest, taking some very fast diodes and building a rectifier for the output, rectify it to dc, put it across a resistor and take a current measurment. I am very curious to see where it stands... If it is not OU, it in no way diminishes your work, you just keep being creative as you have been and push the envelope...
Cheers,
Bruce
Hi Bruce,
Hi Bruce,
Thanks for your comment. I will take your advice and do just that. I bought a true RMS multimeter and am waiting for its arrival. I always did wonder what kind of power output a spinning magnet under a load would have when spun by low DC voltage and current. I am having fun never the less.
You don't need a rms meter if you rectify the output since its DC and read your booklet who come with your meter, all meter read 50/60hz signal ,if your above 150hz you can get false reading since your meter will see the peak but the timeline will be wrong and it must be SINE Wave, weird shape waveform don't work , you will need a DSO for that.
Best Regards,
IceStorm
Hi Tom,
Icestorm is correct in what he says.
I woke up thinking about your device. I think the first thing that I would suggest is replacing your magnet with a N52. KJ Magnetics has them, I believe.
Next, I would try adding a weak mag outside of the wire pu coil. Also, I would try winding another PU coil, using either Litz wire, or Stranded wire. These are all places that I would suggest to up the power.
Cheers,
Bruce
Hi Tom,
Great new video! I have a simple Idea for you to increase your power...
The way you have your gen coil is great, now wind another around that gen coil and the plexiglass on either side. So if gen coil is North and south, the second Gen coil will be East and West. This will give you two gen coils! Both vertical.
I have attached a pic, based on your screen shot. I believe you are using a diametrically magnatized magnet, so this will work great!!!
Cheers,
Bruce
GREAT video.
Please connect a household 120V, 25 Watt Bulb to the Output to see how bright it is.
Thank you.
Thanks for all your advice guys. I like that north /south- east west coil wiring idea I will have to try all those ideas out. In the meantime I posted another video where I am measuring in and out voltage/current of this generator device. The horizontal position I have the flux pickup coil in is not the greatest but it but it kept trying to roll of my work table in a vertical position when I made the video. I get higher results in the vertical position. I have my own power figures but am not making any claims that would embarrass me later. I know better than to do that. What do you figure as in and out power from what you see?
Tom
Hi Tom, I'm guessing about 0.12 watts (6 volts x 20 milliamps) in and if you are even getting 1 milliamp out then it sounds like you have OU. I'm guessing you are getting more than that but then I'm an optimist ;D
Best of luck with the motor and please keep us updated.
Quote from: magnetman12003 on April 19, 2010, 09:34:17 AM
Thanks for all your advice guys. I like that north /south- east west coil wiring idea I will have to try all those ideas out. In the meantime I posted another video where I am measuring in and out voltage/current of this generator device. The horizontal position I have the flux pickup coil in is not the greatest but it but it kept trying to roll of my work table in a vertical position when I made the video. I get higher results in the vertical position. I have my own power figures but am not making any claims that would embarrass me later. I know better than to do that. What do you figure as in and out power from what you see?
Tom
Hi Tom,
I wrote on your other thread. You must rectify and then measure. It really is the only way.
Glad that you liked my second coil idea. It will work. ;)
Also, any chance of upgrading to a N52 magnet of the exact size?
Thanks!
Bruce
If you need a large diametric ring magnet here is the link:
http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=RX84X8DIA
Howdy magnetman12003,
I shop at KJ Magnetics also. Got some N52s for my latest MCPT (Magnetized Composite Planar Transformer). I had been toying with the idea of using the big diameterically magnetized rings on axles on both sides of a solenoid like coil. I would probably have to draw this for you. Visualize two magnets like you are using on two axles connected with a timing chain so that they spin at equal speeds. These two rings are on opposite sides of the coil. When they are lined up they are attracting. This way we double the lines of force through the center of the coil. Then, say make one of the axles stick out from the coil arrangement and mount a propeller on it. Add a tail on the back side, and stick it up in the wind to see if you can generate some power...
About measuring power, you don't have to rectify the voltage to measure it. Just put a load on there and measure the alternating current and voltage. Its still power, just in VAs rather than watts...
N52s Rock!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLVfFQf31QU Scooterscottii has demo'd a Townsand Brown effect on youtube with a mag lev spinner. Zaev has coupled the gravity loss with cooling and elecric output from the mag de mag cycle. How about placing an axialy magnatized cylinder inside the core of a Nanoperm toroid and spinning the toroid inside the air core of an ouput coil for a higher frequency mag demag cycle and increased output. The toroid becomes a magnet with the magnet attached inside, and the pulse should act like the one from the copper wraps in JLN's 2s Gen videos.
Directly wraping a diametric cylinder magnet with a few copper coil layers would probably generate current when pulsed with the proper power pulse width and frequency inside the air core of an output coil, as much as the spinner at the same frequency. I 'll try this too after the magnets arrive.