Hello,
Im waching this forum everyday . I`m from romania . In my resarch for overunity i found an website in ROMANIA from some one that claims that he reproduce a similar motor like PERENDEV . He is asking 20.000euro for licence of mass production . If HARTIBERTIN is wealing to give a 20.000 euro prize for a working PERENDEV . I can go in that city make a miny clip and buy the working prototype and after send it to Hartibertin to analize it and take it apart and multypli it for everybody. I would want to buy it my self but i dont have inuf the money. For more details contact me on my email adress. Marius_porneala@yahoo.com . I will give you a screen shot from theyer website but i wont give you the direct website becouse i want to be a part of this :). I spoke today on the phone with them ..
Best Regards ,
Marius
lol! and you think Stefan will just simply hand you over the money so you can buy it and then send it to him? hilarious! lol!
and on top of that you wont share the website?! wtf?! lol
fuck off!
I dont want to shere the webiste becouse on the website you wont have to many details just the claims. And if i have found this guys my self i want to be part of it . Everbody would want to contact them by theyer self or speak with this guys . So whats the big deal about this ? My part will be to go there and film a movie. Then HARTIBERTIN can come to romania , i can take him from airport, Germany is clouse and we can go together . This guys they want to sell licence , and i think they will want a part from the cash from mass production . I spoke with them again and they sayed they have another 3 prototypes in work . They sayed also that is not same as perendev they camed with some big impruvments ...
you making a video showing proof will not help in this case.
read the OverUnity Prize conditions found here: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=5707.msg129888#msg129888
I can give 20,000 euro but first I have to see what I'm buying. Therefore, first, I need to receive a written statement signed by the inventor that when I visit him in Romania (at my expense) he will not expect any money from me neither will he expect signing of NDA's or other legal documents pertaining to the demonstration. Usually, for such a visit a consultation fee is required but I'll be generous in this case and will not ask to be paid a consultation fee. Upon my visit, in order for me to make a decision as to whether or not that's a real OU device I have to be allowed full access to the device without any obstructions. Also, if I find the model satisfactory, in a sense that it is indeed an OU machine, I need to be in possession of that machine at the time I make the payment. If you agree to these conditions you may send me an e-mail at koooyyy@hotmail.com.
Sure . I agree with everithing . Il email you . And start discousing . In 1-2 hours this guy with the calim promised to call me. As soon as i get more details il post them . And for everybody, im not interested in money but im interested to se the product my self. So the only way to get there is by having an investment to buy the prototype ..
Cool, one more comercial SCAM, like all comercial devices.
Quote from: Rapadura on April 07, 2010, 07:18:02 AM
Cool, one more comercial SCAM, like all comercial devices.
Not at all. If the inventor agrees to a visit prior to paying him and allows the buyer to fully examine the device, that'll be a perfectly acceptable situation. It would be a scam it the buyer is asked to pay for just promises for future developments.
Yeah i agree with you . Im keeping in tuch with this guy . Im wealing to go and see it my self. As for the price i DO NOT WANT IT . I was propoucing that we can buy with it the PROTOTYPE thats all. Il keep everybody in tuch with more info as soon as i have more. As for this guy wants to sell licence for companyes that want to replicate it . This is what he mention in our 2nd conversation . Aniway we should look for the bright part . If perendev was replicated here in romania it is possible to be replicated at least by 1 person in every country . I heard some one from Spain claim it also. The good part is that when they will reach the market China will replicate it for sure. From my opinion everybody should make a magnet stoc becouse NeFeb Mineral will sure go up up up in the sky and it wount be afordable animore after such claims and products on the market . we have some informative parts on Perendev Patent .
@all;
Keep in mind that if he shows a motor generator setup, that
it would be nice to know in which direction the torque actually
is flowing in the shaft when the device is fully loaded. That
might be difficult to tell in a normal mechanical/electrical setup.
A line synchronous motor-generator can switch between modes
automatically and effortlessly depending on what the prime
mover is or is not doing.
It isn't enough to see "spinning". You gotta have energy.
It the device is controlled electrically, energy should not
come in on the control lines.
I am not saying this to discourage anyone, it is just that
pure magnetic motors and perendev in particular seem to
have a less than desirable operational history.
:S:MarkSCoffman
I'll be passing through Bucharest airport twice this month. I could try to re-schedule flights, if the device is near enough.
The Perendev isn't a motor. It's an arrangement of magnets which requires continuous outside force to 'work.' Just like every other SMOT.
The city from where this guy is, is about 400KM away from Bucarest( for CLOXXY ) . If i convince him to go for a demonstration in 1-2 weeks i can take you from airport and go toghether .. But only if you intend to buy it :D .
As for the other post i wont be let fulled by only movement . Il put him to interconect it with a Electric Motor and show me it produce , and how much it would produce under load .
?
Hello,
I have recived a mail today in the morning. This guy changed storry. On our 1st phone conversation when we were speaking strictly about the P.Motor he told me that he even took gold on his invention. Yesterday i email him and i sayed i want to buy 3 prototipes and now he changed story . He sayed the prototype is not ready yet for the P.Motor but he have invented another invention the HHO Welder and he told me in mail " i want some ppl that want to colaborate and produce it , as for the P.Motor is not ready yet and i dont want to speak about it for the moment"
I have sent him another mail and asked at least for a DEMONSTRATION with the one he is having right now. I`m waiting for the answer. After il recive an answer il post all the mails and his website .
Marius.
Quote from: junior_love_2003 on April 08, 2010, 03:13:12 AM
Hello,
I have recived a mail today in the morning. This guy changed storry. On our 1st phone conversation when we were speaking strictly about the P.Motor he told me that he even took gold on his invention. Yesterday i email him and i sayed i want to buy 3 prototipes and now he changed story . He sayed the prototype is not ready yet for the P.Motor but he have invented another invention the HHO Welder and he told me in mail " i want some ppl that want to colaborate and produce it , as for the P.Motor is not ready yet and i dont want to speak about it for the moment"
I have sent him another mail and asked at least for a DEMONSTRATION with the one he is having right now. I`m waiting for the answer. After il recive an answer il post all the mails and his website .
Marius.
Same old, same old ...
Yeah ,
I dont know what was in his mind ? Maybe he thought that if he will ask for a grate sum of money everybody will clouse the phone and never call again. He is thinking about his self that he is an inventer . Becouse of the press, that is unaware of this invention`s already existing, they think he revolutionize them. I was so entuziast when he told me " i have it but i dont sell it for end users i want to sell it as prototype for 20K " .Still im waiting for his answer.If he dosent invite me for a DEMO , il make a road tripe in July and make him a visit .
Marius.
However, now it turns out he doesn't even have a prototype, that is, he was lying to you when you first spoke with him, correct?
He mention in the email that He have the prototype but is not ready ! And he would want ppl to invest money in his SO CALED HHO WELDER " invented by him " yea right .
Marius
Quote from: junior_love_2003 on April 08, 2010, 03:39:15 AM
He mention in the email that He have the prototype but is not ready ! And he would want ppl to invest money in his SO CALED HHO WELDER " invented by him " yea right .
Marius
Never mind the HHO welder. For a prototype not to be ready means that it isn't working, right? If a prototype isn't working then there's no prototype of a working device. He doesn't have a prototype of a working device. He lied to you he has one but in reality he doesn't have it. That guy has nothing and only tries to con people as so many have done and are doing it as we speak. Period. End of story.
Quote from: Omnibus on April 08, 2010, 03:46:17 AM
Never mind the HHO welder. For a prototype not to be ready means that it isn't working, right? If a prototype isn't working then there's no prototype of a working device. He doesn't have a prototype of a working device. He lied to you he has one but in reality he doesn't have it. That guy has nothing and only tries to con people as so many have done and are doing it as we speak. Period. End of story.
Omni:
We have seen this before right? The old bait and switch. Why would any HONEST person offer ANYTHING for sale when there is no WORKING prototype yet? The answer is simple. An HONEST person would not. Therefore...
Bill
How sad.
why am i not surprised? ::)
what a lying sack of shit!
ok moving on now...good bye.
Perendev seems in my opinion to be a scam.
Quote from: hartiberlin on April 18, 2010, 07:13:34 PM
Perendev seems in my opinion to be a scam.
Sterling Allan posted a video on YouTube clearly showing Perendev's device, and Bedini's SSG, in his typically earnest manner, for what they are, namely non-overunity devices. Regardless of the Mylow debacle, Sterling has made some genuine contributions, and all you have to do is watch a video. Good stuff.
LOL. I myself have several "non-working prototypes", haha. I don't think anyone will be giving me any money anytime soon to buy them.
Is it just me, or does it seem that folks from outside the USA seem to think that USA people are just stupid and rich? Because there doesn't seem to be a lot of thought behind the scams these days.
Brian
Quote from: Pirate88179 on April 08, 2010, 04:22:41 AM
...Why would any HONEST person offer ANYTHING for sale when there is no WORKING prototype yet? The answer is simple. An HONEST person would not. Therefore...
Quote from: Monty Python, 'Holy GrailA witch! Burn the witches!
Quote from: Brotherbrian on July 06, 2010, 07:18:36 PM
LOL. I myself have several "non-working prototypes", haha. I don't think anyone will be giving me any money anytime soon to buy them.
Is it just me, or does it seem that folks from outside the USA seem to think that USA people are just stupid and rich? Because there doesn't seem to be a lot of thought behind the scams these days.
Brian
Lol!! are you after a challenge are you? hehe... I hear those Nigerians will give you a run for your money... LOL