Hi everyone good day! ;D
Sorry i don't know where to put this topic.
I'm not a doctor just want to know and just curious about it ;D
Is there anyone know what really is the trigger why the human heart muscle pump or moving involuntarily?
anyone can give hints if there is a tail in there ;D joke.
Thank you very much
Otits L. Noicaro ;D
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2010, 12:27:48 AM
Hi everyone good day! ;D
Sorry i don't know where to put this topic.
I'm not a doctor just want to know and just curious about it ;D
Is there anyone know what really is the trigger why the human heart muscle pump or moving involuntarily?
anyone can give hints if there is a tail in there ;D joke.
Thank you very much
Otits L. Noicaro ;D
Hi Tito.
can you explain further please, are you referring to malfunctioning heart rhythms like palpitations and murmurs?
Quote from: onthecuttingedge2005 on April 08, 2010, 12:41:39 AM
Hi Tito.
can you explain further please, are you referring to malfunctioning heart rhythms like palpitations and murmurs?
No! my question was, what is the one that makes the heart muscle moves or pump or pulse, is it what?
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2010, 03:09:51 AM
No! my question was, what is the one that makes the heart muscle moves or pump or pulse, is it what?
My guess would be "a grouping" [collective] of consciousness (I'm assuming every cell in a body is associated with different kinds and "layers" of consciousness). Current science doesn't agree though. It cannot be the brain connected through the spine alone, otherwise a quadriplegic would not be able to live.
Quote from: Trino Cularoid on April 08, 2010, 04:10:41 AM
My guess would be "a grouping" [collective] of consciousness (I'm assuming every cell in a body is associated with different kinds and "layers" of consciousness). Current science doesn't agree though. It cannot be the brain connected through the spine alone, otherwise a quadriplegic would not be able to live.
Thanks Trino :)
You know what, i have a suspect that there is a some kind of a sparkplug design that triggers the muscles and make the muscles squeeze. ;D
well just a thought ;D
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2010, 04:33:34 AMi have a suspect that there is a some kind of a sparkplug design that triggers the muscles and make the muscles squeeze.
I guess so. Electromagnetic fields certainly can interfere. Interestingly, the field strength is not as important as the quality (frequency/resonance, etc.).
For example, you can be surrounded by relatively strong fields (50/60 Hz wiring) all day long without much effect. But there are much weaker fields used in alternative medicine (acupuncture, etc.) that can have strong effects.
Another theory I heard is that (simplified) the gravity of the stars influences the electromagnetic activity of our sun which in turn affects our bodies because our DNA is coiled up in conductive loops (and therefore magnetizable). These loops are much more sensitive to very weak but tunes fields than to strong ones. That would be the idea behind astrology.
Better tune your spark plug to a friendly frequency! ;)
@Tito
There are a groups of cyclically connected nerve cells
called neurons in the heart muscles themselves that
cause the heart to beat. The heart beat is propagated
like a wave through heart tissue due to the lack of instantaneous
signalling. It is very much like a bistable multivibrator in
electrical circuits. As in all things biological, it has redundant
parts and chemical intermediate messangers (proteins) serve
to communicate information from other organs that bias
the environment of these neurons so as to provide open
loop control. These things are evolutionarily neat but the
sum total makes biological systems some of the most complex
systems dealt with by the human mind.
One thing that can happen is that a chaotic overspeed
process can develop that cause the heart muscle to
continuously quiver rather than beat. This is when
medical personnel need to apply cardiac defibrillation, a
high voltage capacitive discharge to heart, to terminate
the chaotic processes so the regular beating process can
regain control of it.
How these biological systems that uses 10's of millivolts as
nerve data transfer mechanism can possibly survive something
like a lightning strike is totally amazing and well beyond current
electronics technology used in computers ect.
:S:MarkSCoffman
;D
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2010, 04:33:34 AM
Thanks Trino :)
You know what, i have a suspect that there is a some kind of a sparkplug design that triggers the muscles and make the muscles squeeze. ;D
well just a thought ;D
Heart muscle cells branch. It is as if they were a woven basket. There are also nerve fibers running through the heart right and left.
The sparkplug is a small area called the SA node. Please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinoatrial_node
Then it continues through the AV node see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrioventricular_node
The conduction of the wave of heart contraction runs down the nerves and through the branches of muscle fiber.
Quote from: Gearhead on April 08, 2010, 01:12:50 PM
Heart muscle cells branch. It is as if they were a woven basket. There are also nerve fibers running through the heart right and left.
The sparkplug is a small area called the SA node. Please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinoatrial_node
Then it continues through the AV node see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrioventricular_node
The conduction of the wave of heart contraction runs down the nerves and through the branches of muscle fiber.
good info! thank you very very much! ;D
Quote from: mscoffman on April 08, 2010, 10:01:21 AM
@Tito
There are a groups of cyclically connected nerve cells
called neurons in the heart muscles themselves that
cause the heart to beat. The heart beat is propagated
like a wave through heart tissue due to the lack of instantaneous
signalling. It is very much like a bistable multivibrator in
electrical circuits. As in all things biological, it has redundant
parts and chemical intermediate messangers (proteins) serve
to communicate information from other organs that bias
the environment of these neurons so as to provide open
loop control. These things are evolutionarily neat but the
sum total makes biological systems some of the most complex
systems dealt with by the human mind.
One thing that can happen is that a chaotic overspeed
process can develop that cause the heart muscle to
continuously quiver rather than beat. This is when
medical personnel need to apply cardiac defibrillation, a
high voltage capacitive discharge to heart, to terminate
the chaotic processes so the regular beating process can
regain control of it.
How these biological systems that uses 10's of millivolts as
nerve data transfer mechanism can possibly survive something
like a lightning strike is totally amazing and well beyond current
electronics technology used in computers ect.
:S:MarkSCoffman
Thank you sir! ;D
See,
I don't remember saying that?
Maybe I did ?
I'm still learning how to speak "yellow face". :-\
Chet
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 08, 2010, 03:09:51 AM
No! my question was, what is the one that makes the heart muscle moves or pump or pulse, is it what?
Most voluntary systems operate oppositely the involuntary systems, it's unusual this way.
The same signaling in one are of the nervous tissue may turn something on, while in yet another it turns something off.
I think that stimulation of the nerves going to the heart causes it to slow down, while stimulation of those same types of nerves elsewhere would cause something to activate.
so Teets
Whats with all this heart stuff?
Are you like Dr. Frankenteets now? :o
Whatcha building?
Chet
http://health.howstuffworks.com/search.php?terms=how+heart+works
Tiny electric Gnomes.
8)
Quote from: ramset on April 09, 2010, 02:34:43 PM
so Teets
Whats with all this heart stuff?
Are you like Dr. Frankenteets now? :o
Whatcha building?
Chet
as forest said, the nature is our best teacher, so I'm trying to gather a lot of knowledge info, so i will try to convert it into electricity, for it is the heart responsible why the whole body is running, and the the most important there is that there should be no moving parts. for pulse is all what we need to transfer electricity to other metal right?
That's how simple it is ;D
Very true Tito without a pulse you have nothing!
How do you think the pulse transfers?
What is taking place?
Magic? :o
See this guy -> :o <-
I don't know his name but he's my favorite [makes me laugh]
Chet
Hola Tito,
Not sure where you're goin' with all this, but for what it's worth, I remember John Bedini noting that our bodies were expert at converting the sea of energy all around us into vital energy and neural impulses. In a sense, perhaps the beating of the heart is rooted in the body's ability to transform ambient energy into its own vital energy (all things being equal in the body otherwise - i.e., good diet, hydration, overall health). I think Bedini was noting that the body was already doing what FE reserchers try to do in converting cosmic energy (or whatever folks want to call it) into useable electricity (i.e., to move a load, light a lamp ...). I think John Hutchinson talks about technology that has the capability of removing cosmic energy from an area, bringing about the instantaneous death of all life in the area. So I guess if we can figure out what the heart/body is doing to convert ambient energy into neural impulses and vitality, perhaps we can find a way to convert this same ambient energy into cold electricity. I think Bedini's already done it, but is only giving clues to point people in the right direction.
Suerte hermano.
Bob
No!, I'm just trying to replicate how heart is functioning, and trying to convert that into simple electronics.
Quote from: ramset on April 09, 2010, 10:12:10 PM
Very true Tito without a pulse you have nothing!
How do you think the pulse transfers?
What is taking place?
Magic? :o
See this guy -> :o <-
I don't know his name but he's my favorite [makes me laugh]
Chet
No! it is not the pulse transfers, it is the pulse that makes the magnetic field fluctuate and from there, any metal that is around the magnetic field is energized.
Teetsla!
Quote:
any metal that is around the magnetic field is energized.
-------------------------
Energized is nice [just ask the bunny].
"Amplified " as in O U, that would be "SPECIAL".
Teetsla Can you make it "SPECIAL"?
Chet
:-*
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on April 13, 2010, 10:10:35 PM
No! it is not the pulse transfers, it is the pulse that makes the magnetic field fluctuate and from there, any metal that is around the magnetic field is energized.
The question is : is heart nerves a closed circuit system or maybe rather open like antenna ? ;D
When I pulse antenna and immediately disconnect it from pulsing source what is going on with that pulse ?
Tito,
Pulsing seems to be key in drawing in ambient energy to increase a system's output. See chapters 2, 3, 4, 5 here:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/
Very interesting stuff.
Bob
Quote from: Bob Smith on April 14, 2010, 11:52:34 AM
Tito,
Pulsing seems to be key in drawing in ambient energy to increase a system's output. See chapters 2, 3, 4, 5 here:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/
Very interesting stuff.
Bob
Ya! your very right! ;D
So Teets
Lets build somethin!
Chet
ELECTRICITY IN THE PALM OF MY HAND. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Quote from: forest on April 14, 2010, 09:40:41 AM
The question is : is heart nerves a closed circuit system or maybe rather open like antenna ? ;D
When I pulse antenna and immediately disconnect it from pulsing source what is going on with that pulse ?
This is the way i see it.
There is a spark plug that triggers the muscle and the muscle sensitivity function reaction is to make a strong squeeze and make the blood circulate and from there as the blood flows, the spark plug is re-energized and do it again. ;D
hmmmmm, its fascinating isn't it?
;D
QuoteThere is a spark plug that triggers the muscle and the muscle sensitivity function reaction is to make a strong squeeze and make the blood circulate and from there as the blood flows, the spark plug is re-energized and do it again.
Okay... A sharp pulse of electrical potential with steep, rapid decay has been shown by Bedini to draw in RE from the environment. Therefore, in terms of electricity (voltage), what is being added from outside the system via the pulse is adding to the output so that more voltage is rendered than what has been put in initially. This does not mean overunity, but rather simply that RE has simply been added, enabling the system to put out more than what went in. Which if configured correctly would keep the system self-sustaining.
Now... it would seem that pulses in general seem to have a similar effect on gravity-fed systems such as:
"Lawrence Tseung's pulsed wheel, Chas Campbell's pulsed flywheel, John Bedini's pulsed flywheel, the water-jet generator, the Magnetic Pendulum, Johann Bessler's gravity wheel, the Dale Simpson gravity wheel, the Veljko Milkovic pendulum/lever system, the Dale Simpson hinged-plate system, the Murilo Luciano gravity chain and Ivan Monk's Rotary Power Unit"
Quoted from Chapter 4 at: http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/
With regard to the heart muscle, it is fed by electrical impulses - note, imPULSES - :) The impulse gets turned into pulsed mechanical energy - and perhaps in so doing, draws in more RE. Perhaps lots of implications.
GTG
There is no such thing as OU. Energy always must come from somewhere :P RE is everywhere in every OU device.
everything start in a small quantity.
Let say for example: a small sound is fed via microphone then amplified using speakers.
and sound is a vibration cause by means of a pulse in a way of a freqyency.
a parallel then switch to serie connection makes an amplification then a sudden discharge into a big thick wire makes a strong magnetic field.
Now did you get something amazing in there? ;D
Quote from: forest on April 16, 2010, 03:29:28 PM
There is no such thing as OU. Energy always must come from somewhere :P RE is everywhere in every OU device.
No!. we can make energy incremention using parent energy. and we can get energy from our surroundings influenced by the parent energy. and we can make it in multiplication and the effect is like a bomb.