Let shoot them! ;-)
Hi all.
After numerous fun designs, i think its time to build someting.
I started thinking about this after my buoyancy design ( http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5267-bouyancy-hacked.html (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/5267-bouyancy-hacked.html) ) And linear pick up coils.
After watching a few clips on the web of people shooting stuff away with HHO (potato guns, bottle rockets) i was thinking.. We all try to run existing engines on HHO, why not try to use what we are able to do right now.
Here is a good example of a person shooting some stuff on a very small scale: 9V battery, 20 seconds will give him a projectile. :
YouTube - The RED-Tipped MICRO ROCKET (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKNut2Y9x3M&playnext_from=TL&videos=zSD1K1IWWs4)
YouTube - MARCHLABS M13 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uSXcV-r1Ifs)
This kind of power i'm trying to use.
( See it as a reversed coil gun. A coil gun: Input a lots of energy and shoot a projectile. This design:
Shoot a projectile and harvest the energy )
Also keep in mind the “shake lights†.. See it as a huge line of shake lights and fire a magnets trough them.
I designed a ring generator, i want to build. I'm not claiming overunity. I'm just think it would be a good learning project and some fun.
The concept is based on HHO combustion (or any other combustible substance) , linear generators and a magnet bullet.
First i was thinking of a linear set-up, easy with no valves:
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A very easy concept:
1.The water at the bottom of the sphere will be under continues current to produce hydrogen.
2.When the magnet falls down it will trigger the spark swith above the water and the produced HHO will combust
3.Magnet shoots up, along the coils, at the dead point on the top, gravity will take over and the magnet falls down.
4.Repeat 1.2.3.
Then i was thinking.. There are two dead points, that should be eliminated as well as unnessesary air resistance.
So i came up with a ring design, i want to build. I'm not claiming overunity. I'm just think it would be a good learning project and some fun.
Here is an impression of the set-up:
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How it works:
1.The (for the time being) external power source will produce HHO gas
2.The Spark will be triggered by a magnetic switch as soon as the “bullit†passes the valve.
3.The HHO combustion
4.The combustion will force the valve open
5.The opened valve closes of the ring behind the bullit to provide force and direction
6.The bullet will shoot away inside the ring
7.The pressure valve will release air and pressure to enable the bullet to travel
8.The bullet passes the pressure valves and due to speed will pass the combustion valve again
9.Repeat.
Notes: Due to the rotating force, the bullet will only touch the outer wall, so at the inside wall you have some “liberty†of placing parts (Valves, censors etc)
Also the pressure in front of the bullet will close the valve before hitting it. Once the combustion valve and the pressure valve are closed, the bullit will travel inside the ring with very little resistance because the air around it will travel at the same speed.
Animation of inside :
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Close up of valve working:
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So.. This is the plan. :-)
As i do not want a fragmentation bomb in my house, i decided to make a trial set-up from soft materials. I do not want huge power in the beginning, just a proof of concept. And after seeing in the above vid the guy shooting of a tic-tac box, i think the reinforced hose will be able to resist the forces with single shots. ( Yes i do realise it will melt when you fire it continuesly )
For the ring I'm going to use a thick reinforced transparent hose. Easy to bend, and I'm able to see what happens.
For the magnet bullet i will use a soft ball at first
As combustion chamber i think i will use the same hose. First I was thinking of a tennis ball, but i like the transparent nature of the hose.
As for the valve, i will us a slightly soft rubber flap. That has the advantage of not having to design a hinge and doe to the explosive force it will bend itself into the right shape to close of the ring for a short period.
The linear pick up coils will be of later worries, after the concept works.
I will first power it up with an external power source, just to see if can get the “bullet†flying around.
First step:
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Ofcourse I will run in a few problems and help and ideas will be appreciated.
I know nothing about electricity so there is problem number one:
As an ignition i need the “cheapest†and most simple way to create an ignition spark. For now I have a electronic lighter, but at the end it need to be an integrated solution.
Any suggestions for a cheap and easy spark?
FUTURE:
If it works i have some things in the future planned:
- Make the ring of solid copper with one small isolation and wire the ends
and shoot the magnet trough. Will the Lenz effect create power? Will the Lenz effect keep the magnet from hitting the outer wall?
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- What if u put more magnets in at the same time? That could be interesting!
- What if you give the combustion chamber more exits, as in in the spokes of a wheel ?
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- Is there a possibility of using the pressure from the pressure release valve ?
Thanks for reading. Any input will be appreciated.
Here are the pictures that belong to the opening post:
The first design: A simple linear version.
More:
What about Lenz with an all copper ring?
Or More spokes?
What i'm am curious about is of the concept will proof to be an efficient way to harnes pressure difference.
The magnet, going around inside the torus shaped ring, in combination with the pick up coils. (How they are utalized best is the next challange).
The "over pressure" valve is of use when the expansion does not shrink down fast enough .
The "input" does not have to be a combustion. Any kind of pressure difference will do. As long as you have a valve that blocks the pipe behind the magnet when the pressure input occures and will be out of the way when the magnet closes its loop.
This could be:
Heat (heated gasses or liquids)
Air pressure (wind difference, compressed air..)
And combustion.
The "bullet" will travel very fast. It will not only be shot away, but also rotating around its own axle.
This you can influence by controlling the weight and schape of the bullet.
The simplest projectile will be a round ball, if you want you're own magnet set-up you can put the ones you like inside the ball
This will make it easy to experiment with different magnet and coil setups.
Hi Cherryman,
Very cool design, almost there with a non destructive flux compression generator. A magnet though could get demagnetized by the heat of the explosion.
Another idea that wouldn't use explosives would be a high speed motor setup like a "baseball pitching machine". Use a large center rubber wheel for a flywheel effect and smaller satellite wheel for putting a spin on a 2" magnetic sphere. A clear plastic tube with pickup coils wrapped around which would be rectified for usable power. The only time the motor would be under load is when the sphere comes around for another kick. In effect decouple the magnet from the wheel.
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Hi Cherryman,
Very cool design, almost there with a non destructive flux compression generator. A magnet though could get demagnetized by the heat of the explosion.
Another idea that wouldn't use explosives would be a motor setup like a "". Use a large center rubber wheel for a flywheel effect and smaller satellite wheel for putting a spin on a 2" magnetic sphere. A clear plastic tube with pickup coils wrapped around which would be rectified for usable power. The only time the motor would be under load is when the sphere comes around for another kick. In effect decouple the magnet from the wheel.
Tnx.
The magnets could be heat shielded. Or the combustion could be neutralized to an air movement without heat.
Update:
- Tested small explosions in a tube
With a mobile phone charcher and some kitchen stuff i tried if i could make an explosion.
That works.
Now i got some materials.
First explosions ;-)
Hairspray:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5BdqyglLe0
HHO (Brown gas...etc)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAWf0d0ruao
Another test.
I switched poles. The explostion is different, but to early to say it is of the switching.
Notice how the plastic cap has taken of before you see the flame!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atMOurQu-34
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just love the title ...
this looks like fun !
: )
i cant wate till you share more !
awesome
what if you had the thing fart hho at low amounts and fire it to porpell a magnetic wheel generator it would run on low volts low amps and spin the generator verry fast .. then you just pulse it slowly few bangs a min to keep it idleing ... and pull from the output coils
the simplest way is to use a turbine such as mine .. just make the pockets bigger .. and WHO CARES FOR TIMEING ANYWAY... just fire it .. if there enough pockets .. it will work just fine
lots of POWER IN HHO BANGING ... HENCE STANLY MEYERS ... ; ) basically you can use the fly back from a choke through a spark plug as a fireing system so let the hho build till fireing chamber is full and then fire the choke
now you can do it useing the FLOATING MAGNET TURBINE AIR MODLE ... TO LOWER THE FRICTION AND INCREASE THE SPEED
REGARDS !
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Quote from: innovation_station on May 02, 2010, 01:24:30 PM
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just love the title ...
this looks like fun !
: )
i cant wate till you share more !
awesome
what if you had the thing fart hho at low amounts and fire it to porpell a magnetic wheel generator it would run on low volts low amps and spin the generator verry fast .. then you just pulse it slowly few bangs a min to keep it idleing ... and pull from the output coils
the simplest way is to use a turbine such as mine .. just make the pockets bigger .. and WHO CARES FOR TIMEING ANYWAY... just fire it .. if there enough pockets .. it will work just fine
lots of POWER IN HHO BANGING ... HENCE STANLY MEYERS ... ; ) basically you can use the fly back from a choke through a spark plug as a fireing system so let the hho build till fireing chamber is full and then fire the choke
now you can do it useing the FLOATING MAGNET TURBINE AIR MODLE ... TO LOWER THE FRICTION AND INCREASE THE SPEED
REGARDS !
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Tnx! And if you reed and study the basics of the design above then you will notice that that is exactly what i'm doing ;-)
lets just say i didnt need to read it : )
lol
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i cant wate till she is running : )
cheers !
do you have any hv hf rectifiers ? you will need some .. now if you have an old recoil from a gas engine .. you can yank it over till it runns .. the generators power the fuel cell then it burns it .. : )
if you add this to the unit ... it will amp your kicks ..
ist kicker board . it is 2.65 henry the generators are input to this board .. the colpase from the board makes THE HHO ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2oQZmFSKM
1 more video useing a cam flash board and aa for a power source and igniter system .. hummmm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSPRQOYJuGE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1RmoeV6chM&feature=related
you could just do this too ... : )
so many ways
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1aeXwtoNKc&feature=related
Quote from: innovation_station on May 02, 2010, 02:07:09 PM
lets just say i didnt need to read it : )
lol
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i cant wate till she is running : )
cheers !
do you have any hv hf rectifiers ? you will need some .. now if you have an old recoil from a gas engine .. you can yank it over till it runns .. the generators power the fuel cell then it burns it .. : )
if you add this to the unit ... it will amp your kicks ..
ist kicker board . it is 2.65 henry the generators are input to this board .. the colpase from the board makes THE HHO ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xc2oQZmFSKM
haha Tnx! I'm not there yet! I have not knoledge at al of electricity, or chemistry.. I will find out the old way ;-)
And yes! It is fun! ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5uu5QpG5l8
i like your method !
the old way : )
i see no reason this will not turn a tesla turbine verry high rpm ... : ) throw a counter weight on it ... NOW YA GOT SOME TORQUE..
ist!
i must stand back and say thank you sir !
imagine this on a VCR HEAD BEARING.... hummmmm omg
Quote from: innovation_station on May 02, 2010, 03:12:31 PM
i like your method !
the old way : )
i see no reason this will not turn a tesla turbine verry high rpm ... : ) throw a counter weight on it ... NOW YA GOT SOME TORQUE..
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I will share another trick.. I will use the suction after the explosion as well.. Twice the fun with one explosion! ;-)
i cant resist ! this is just about the best thing on this site ...
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CHECK IT OUT ... find a vcr .. dude !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Aym9H8bFpw
Quote from: innovation_station on May 02, 2010, 03:42:59 PM
i cant resist ! this is just about the best thing on this site ...
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CHECK IT OUT ... find a vcr .. dude !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Aym9H8bFpw
Hi Ist! Nice vid! ;-)
Well in a way it is all the same, it comes close to tesla turbines, also to pulsjet technologie.. and in an way simple combustion!
Keep up the good work and keep sharing, i will too.
Actually the project can be split in two basic operations:
1. Producing hydrogen and a spark
2. Collecting engery from the blast (and implosion)
(If possible looping, but it might be a quite economic generator (Solar cell powered? ) anyway.. Besides all that, its fun! ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpL6_iTv9Cc
this is almost the old bird bangers i have herd storys about ... only thing the bird bangers dont have is ANY INPUT AT ALL .. and they produce a gas witch ignites itsself ..
hummm
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i hear the menonites use this same teck in there lights on there buggies .. aswell grampa had to buy a CARBON ... block wich was consumed over time .. simply water powered .. and you change the timeing of the unit by the drip rate of water ...
did i mention i have a hho cell that does not shut off ...
lol
i power it and it produces for a few days .. i use 35 percent hydgron peroxide .. hydgron per oxide ... : ) and only a small amount
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Funni, The Annuaki speak of "stones" and water as well for their rocket propulsion !!
Anyway stop talking , start building! ;-)
Quote from: innovation_station on May 02, 2010, 05:18:23 PM
... buy a CARBON ... block .....
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Wich one?
Some allotropes of carbon: a) diamond; b) graphite; c) lonsdaleite; dâ€"f) fullerenes (C60, C540, C70); g) amorphous carbon; h) carbon nanotube.
?
Quote from: Cherryman on May 02, 2010, 05:22:41 PM
Funni, The Annuaki speak of "stones" and water as well for their rocket propulsion !!
Anyway stop talking , start building! ;-)
im already done it .. how about yourself ?
the rotor is built ! just to counter sync the magnets and add a low consumption hho cell ..
i could probally use this and some 35 percent hydgron per oxide ... lol
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FDswn3feBY
now if your lazy or cheep like my self .. you can buy a bbq igniter it runs on an aa .. and this can be used to lite the hho and if you have a super cap ... lol you can charge it from the spinn up of the motor via generator coils .. to power the bbq burner so as not to need a battery .. then you need to trigger it .. as per required ..
the chamber can be made of 1 of my flash back arrestors 1" pvc pipe .. and a brass nozzel maybe 1/4" outlet cell can go under neath it .. and it should stand vertical as the gas will rize ..
the bird bangers produced such a blast it could be herd miles away ..
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and if done properly you can still have the bubbler and the cell just use the arrester keep all hoses short and so as not to have too much gas ever on reserve ..
this will work on verry low production hho cells .. nicely
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i finished the layout of the rotor just thought i would post a pic or 2 of it
24 push points 8 neo magnets ..
i drilled out the center so as to elemanite the wobble as my origonal holes were off center .. now just to finish the neo holes and mount them and file the outside so there IS NO WOBBLE PEROID..
ist !
also this unit as showen gets only 7 coils .. generator coils as per bill muller .. easy turn method .. 1 extra magnet than coil always .. this way only 1 magnet is in a core at 1 time ..
: ) kinda like an eclipse !
Well i'm i'm not standing still myself.
And with me, cell, bubbler and combustion chamber are all one.
Keep it simple, keep it to the source ;-)
Less is More!
Sneak peak:
Output test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWdAYHs0Hn8
Need some advice.
I get frustrated by a simple spark!
First i tried Piezo.. unreliable...
Now i tried a battery powered BBQ sparker.
This is what happens:
- Out of chamber test: Oké good spark
- In chamber test.. No or rare spark
- Now the funny part: When i connect the wires NO spark in the gap.. Just before i connect the wires i get two sparks! One where i come close to the connection, the other at the gap ??
connected > nothing between gap
Almost connected> two sparks (At connection and at gap simultanisly)
Anyone?
Edit:
Fixed! Not sure what it caused, but it seems solved:
Nice sparkling ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4aVkDPQEgk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJqdR5jpl1c
nice the spark as i have seen from a bbq unit is diffrent than most sparks people have been playing with ..
it is cold .. verry cold .. has little power to it .. unlike most of my sparkie things .. it will bite you tho ... but it is a poor way to charge caps .. or not good to be rectified .. it is designed to ingnite gas ..
i will make a video showing my compleate bbq sparker .. it shoots a spark .5 " or so .. this can be found at canadian tire stores for 15 bucks .. fits all bbq's
it is an after market starter ..
cherryman have you ever had your cell blow up ? useing your configuration .. i have had explosions in the past .. where things got to flying round the room ...
so i do agree it is best to have the unit all as 1 so the excess gas is burnt each and every fire ..
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im finishing the wheel and finding the bbq igniter i will shoot a video at some point showing the unit ..
are you running a weak battery ? this may cause the transistor in the bbq liter to miss fire ..
similar to a jt on a dead battery...
or there a few conculsions i could draw but with the limited info .. this is my best guess !
Quote from: innovation_station on May 03, 2010, 09:09:28 AM
cherryman have you ever had your cell blow up ? useing your configuration .. i have had explosions in the past .. where things got to flying round the room ...
I still have some problems with the spark it seems.. Now i got some better insulated wire, maybe that helpes.
About the cell explosion.. well.. every time! ;-) hahaha
But i know what you say. And i have not yet had a flying around of stuff. I did however got some surprisingly loud bang.
To avoid that i use some safety:
- Soft materials (Hoses)
- I keep a max of 5 minutes to build up gases.
- In testing fase i use tape or microwave foil to seal the cell (It makes a good explosion "valve"
- Detonation from a distance ( I have one meter..and it still scares me sometimes ;-)
- I was thinking a safety valve ( Make a hole in the detonation chamber and stretch an innertube of a tire around it real tied. If the pressure is to high, it will open up to release some pressure. (But as usual i'm exploding first, safety later ;-)
When i can get a kind of "stable" explosion, i will start closing the ring..
This build is just a proof of concept. When it works and still has maritt and fun.. I will build a final one.
my hho cells are designed to produce more hydgron than oxy ... : )
as per my designs ... it is VERRY POWERFULL STUFF !
NOT YOUR NORMAL CELL !
SO WHEN I BANG IT ... IT BANGS BAD ! IT DONT GO POOF IT GOES BBBBBAAAAAANNNNNGGGGGGG
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I DONT USE ELECTROLITTE ... I DID A DEMO IN THE CITY A FEW YEARS BACK .. i used the city water and because of the clorine it was soooo lould .. i had people turn there heads for blocks .. to see what was going on ...
Big aint always better!
In this case we need to find the MINIMUM of gas that will explode!
So tame youre cell! ;-)
(I hate that spark! Last three days sparktrouble. Why can't i just connect wires and push a button! >:( )
BIG AINT ALWAYS BETTER I AGREE .. but BIG BANG IS BETTER ...
: )
then poof ! lol if you have not made a multi plate cell with more plates 1 side than the other i HIGHLY RECCOMEND YOU TRY IT !
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im working with my burnt out drill press trying to drill the damm magnet holes ... ever work and build with worn out tools and almost no materials to build such things ... i sure as hell have ... EVERYDAY !
AND STILL I KICK ASSES !
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Question:
Could water vapor influence my spark?
It looks like the spark operates about well outside the cell, also after installment, but after a while it seems to find a way to escape...
Also something to consider: Use a very stable spark gap, as it will be in the middle of the explosion.
Maybe i should just get an ordinary sparkplug. Can i connect a normal sparkplug to the BBQ lighter?
I HAVE NOT TRYED BUT TODAY I WILL AND VIDEO IT !
WHAT ARE YOUR SPARK CONTACTS .. ?
the ones that came with my zapper were zinc coated steel with insollators on them
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Quote from: innovation_station on May 03, 2010, 10:40:57 AM
I HAVE NOT TRYED BUT TODAY I WILL AND VIDEO IT !
WHAT ARE YOUR SPARK CONTACTS .. ?
the ones that came with my zapper were zinc coated steel with insollators on them
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So far i tried:
- Zinc screws http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4aVkDPQEgk&feature=channel
That was the best! To get that every time would be perfect@ But stopped after a while..
- Copper soft multiwire. Worked , not perfect And moves to easaly)
- Copper hard single wire. Worked, not perfect Moves also a little.
The screws would be best... they are the most stable in an explosion.
Althoug the srews do not touch die iron reinforcement of the hose.. could that be a leak?
i have used brass in some of my cells ... : )
perhaps it will work well altho there is a build up that happins this was useing high currents and produceing high volumes of gas
so in a constant run i found stainless steel nuts and bolts to work best ..
i had a heat problem at one point i changed the materials and the location where the holes entered the chamber .. and it apeared to solve the problem
i do wonder if the insollators are important ...
if you look at cold fusion .. they become EXTREAMLY IMPORTANT!
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Here is an example:
Same zinc screws, when i schorten between them you see sparks. But on their own,inside.. nothing.. (Gaped +- 1mm )
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaPJIDNARuw
Strange!
Here a test with the valves in place.
One hand on the igniter
One hand at the end of the hose feeling the pressure.
The pressure is quite noticable and a real short burst.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWERfQtYTT8
here is the rotor/ turbine/ generator / pulse motor ...
i made
lol
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_5M4rpl4uQM
Good progress Ist.
Looking forward to see youre HHO setup with this ;-)
Dit some minor testing.
It seems that the air > out of the explosion is almost equal to the air < in the explosion.
Out > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2xfTKZJAR4
In > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZAh_5nqxQ74
First shooting ;-)
Althoug it seems not so powerfull with the balloons. The force is very strong.
It is not a hughe amount of air, but the speed is very high.
Here i schoot a plastic cap of the hose.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxW6loqEKBk
First closed loop test.
Valve system seems to do its job. ;D
First notice: After the closed loop explosion there seems to be underpressure.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFHwyhxWEck
To see if there is motion in the tube or just pressure i added a little undersized bal, undersized because it schould not become a bullit ;-)
It seems to move oké.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZacdB0wtlK0
Quote from: Cherryman on May 04, 2010, 12:30:44 PM
To see if there is motion in the tube or just pressure i added a little undersized bal, undersized because it schould not become a bullit ;-)
It seems to move oké.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZacdB0wtlK0
im so verry happy you have come up with this device ...
i do have about 1 million ideas ..
when i get you to take the hho away ;) :)
but for now motion works just the same ..
i must spill ... : )
fill the tube with magnet rubber ball magnet rubber ball .. add a electro coil .. ie rail gun ... lol and apply your top winding configuration
peace !
im almost done the wheel sanding what a time consumer ... but if ya aint got the tools ya aint got the tools .. so i imprivize : )
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I like youre enthausiasm, and tnx for the tips, but you will also find that already in the first post of this topic ;)
Anyway.. getting closer.. Here a sneak peak:
Quote from: Cherryman on May 04, 2010, 01:03:40 PM
I like youre enthausiasm, and tnx for the tips, but you will also find that already in the first post of this topic ;)
Anyway.. getting closer.. Here a sneak peak:
: )
i know !!
but i really like the motion design .. for learning it is best explained in the manner you have chose
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Testing a home made valve.
It's a 2 Euro coin ;-) With some tape.
I put the webcam in the tube.. Seems it is not perfect yet! ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=825Y7RkWgr0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDbouLUje5U
here is a thruster cell i threw togather .. it is the cell the chamber the spark plug and the EXIT nozzel
i just found some things laying around this is untested .. and a concept idea ..
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i added a few more things aligned things and im pondering .. lol
here are a few more pics
here is a video of a possible cell design i may use
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8g_FKNwHGUI
Looks good Ist.
I do however think that your holes in the flywheel are not that efficient. To much air will disappear. The output of a HHO explosion is very short and intense, not very volumetric. You might consider larger holes, or "scoops" as in a water wheel.. Or close it in (tesla turbine like or enclosed scoops ).
Quote from: Cherryman on May 05, 2010, 04:27:18 PM
Looks good Ist.
I do however think that your holes in the flywheel are not that efficient. To much air will disappear. The output of a HHO explosion is very short and intense, not very volumetric. You might consider larger holes, or "scoops" as in a water wheel.. Or close it in (tesla turbine like or enclosed scoops ).
we shall see ..
lol
i have for years spun high speed toys !
; )
i may just drop the hho altogather
and go plasma water its a hell of a bang ! :)
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here is 1 of my toys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erf7Fn--324
you do realize it is hardest to get it going once it is moveing it takes little to accelerate it ..
so ... you spin it fast as you can by hand ... you generate a bit of electricty .. the coils amp it ... this makes the hho ... and ka boom ... off it goes ..
Quote from: innovation_station on May 05, 2010, 04:44:12 PM
we shall see ..
lol
i have for years spun high speed toys !
; )
i may just drop the altogather
and go plasma water its a hell of a bang ! :)
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here is 1 of my toys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erf7Fn--324
I thought about that, but Plasma is out of my league. Tommy Reed had some nice video's about that also, but the MIB got him, he disappeared, also from youtube....
The concept works with any kind of pressure, air, HHo , gasoline.. actually it doesn't matter as long as you have a difference in pressure and/or heat.
Yhe little water turbine looks good! I saw a TV programme once they used it on a hillside. A large pipe uphill in the stream as intake, the pressure downhill was hughe and free! and they put the same generator at it as yours. Good work!
But.. My experienceso far tells me i think you need a more direct connection, with less loss. But you are right.. we will see ;-)
the THRUST OF THE THRUSTER .. is largly determined by the amount of gas you ignnitte and the volume of the chamber .. aswell the size OF THE NOZZEL as you decreace in nozzel size you increase in pressure ..
i have built a few high speed turbines .. : )
and it is unimportant the holes as long as there there and HELD WITH IN THE OUTTER MOST POINT OF THE TURBINE ..
or you get FRICITON ..
REGARDS !
ist
the smaller the size of rotor the faster the spinn .. the heaver the rotor the more horse power you have ..
so make it small and damm heavy .. ... its a fly wheel ... omg and if you MATCH IT PROPERLY .. THE WEIGHT OF THE WHEEL can ballance the neo and the grab from the cores .. : )
then if you go just a wee bit heaver yet after ya beat the neo grab ... maybe you could get some free stuff...
once set in motion it tends to stay in motion .. and ontop of all that you got your self some REAL TURNING POWER
Another Valve test, seems to work better.
Not perfect jet, but it enlarges my understandings.
The camera has a hard time ;-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VhJUO90Mzkg
In this test I attached two balloon's. The idea is that the grey balloon will fill up first, (Explosion valve directs it that way) and after that the valve immediately opens again.. and fills up the yellow balloon. (In the future there will be the passing magnet, which must be able to travel by without obstacles)
In the slow motion it looks like the concept is working. First Grey one blows up, after that the valve is open again and the yellow one pops up (Pressure equalizes)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJ3PUEdeAeA
Eureka!
First test with shooting a little (foam) ball in the closed loop ! :thumbsup:
The hose it not that nicely shaped, so my little foam ball (no mass at all) gets stuck. But I'm quit happy with the progress! :D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=10ObhgrNRF0
After a few tests i think it is fair to say that a Hydroxygen explosion uses more air then it produces!
This video will demonstrate it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tBHapR2lT0A
Conclusions so far:
- More air is needed then produced
After the explosion the balloon schrinks to a less size then before the explosion. So the explosion in a whole consumes more air then it delivers
- Hydroxygen is heavier then air!
The balloon is straight on to the cell. I let the cell become under pressure and fill the balloon. Still the "fire" of the explosion occurs just above the water. Not in the balloon.
So it seems that although HHO is lighter then air.. Hydroxygen gas seems heavier.