http://www.riken.jp/engn/r-world/info/release/press/2010/100419/index.html
Interesting link! However it doesn't sound much like Mayers invention imo. Mayer, as far as I understand, presented a oscillating system that spilt water molecules with help of a given frequency - 42.8khz. A DC offset high-voltage was applied to that frequency also in order to control the direction of oxygen and hydrogen atoms so they can split apart to each respective positive and negative electrode. His claims was that it did almost not require energy to split water such as in conventional electrolysis.
Mayer did not operate with nano technology as far as I know, but maybe nano technology is better?
Vidar
the process in question basically states that it's easier to resonate the bonds into breaking apart...which is similar to what stan meyer theorized that he was doing. "excitation of the molecule's vibrational states induced dissociation into hydroxyl (H + OH)" is the similarity that i was referring to.
I have started to question the effect of the resonant frequency. Within audio, a traditional bassreflex loudspeaker there is two resonant systems. An active driver which activates a passive port into resonance. At the ports resonancefrequency, the active driver must work harder to maintain its amplitude because the amplitude in the port is delayed 90 - 180 degrees, and therfor works agains the active driver which tries to maintain the resonance frequency in the port. Within the molecular properties of water, my guess is that the same case is happening. The molecules will work agains the applied high frequency at resonance. I picture a bond between hydrogen and oxygen as a rubberband, and the mass in oxygen and hydrogen will start to oscillate/bounce back and forth, 180 degrees delayed of the applied frequency. When high voltage is applied also, the electric charge will eventually break the water molecule apart at the time where oxygen and hydrogen are farthest apart during the oscillation. And therfor it might require more energy to maintain the HHO generation than we can expect. If this is not the case, we are taking a big leap towards free energy. Any views on these thaughts?
Vidar
as far as resonance is concerned:my understanding is that anything has a resonant frequency defined by rigidity,size,density...etc.it is not necessarily an overunity process but i think using natural resonant frequencies can effect efficiency to a great extent.it is engineering which has the greatest room for improvement.electrical devices these days are not designed as much for efficiency as they are waste.and as far as the water molecule I'm sure it has it's resonant frequency too and I'm convinced Stan Meyer was well on his way to exploiting this toward his own ends.
Everything in universe is a wave related phenomenon, so any composition of atoms does inevitably respond to a frequency related to its structure.
Tesla knew this.
So did Raymond Royal Rife, one of our greatest and most mistreated inventors of all times. http://www.rense.com/general31/rife.htm
It 's all about resonance.
John Kanzius, experimenting with high frequencies in the radio wave spectra found that sea water dissociated into HHO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8utkoK2DhA
So, as far as I am concerned, the key needed to unlock the bonds in the water molecules resides mainly within the art of correctly employed resonance.
And since OU seems to be present in nano scale cavitation phenomena, I would suggest very high frequency experiments, possibly in the Planck scale range.
A lot of interesting tests remains to be done, including all kinds of exitations and stresses put upon the catalysis experiments.
I am absolutely sure that there is a smarter way to unlock the water molecule than by solely brute electrical force.
It's like a hardened padlock, if you don't have the key, you have to waste a lot of energy to open it.
I am personally deeply into this field and will of course post any interesting results for verification and replication.
Gwandau
Just let's hope we do not need 10kW radiowave to achieve a candle light. Maybe nanoscale machines can do this more efficiently.
Vidar
Low-Q,
John Kanzius high energy radio wave was just an indication of the many possible starting points into solving the H2O riddle,
there was not much delicacy there.
But a creative mind doesn't gain anything by focusing on the problem, the big leaps is done when focusing on the solution.
The key is there, and you don't really need a scanning tunneling microscope to find it, and as far as I am concerned, you only
have to set up a producing HHO dry cell and expose it to all kinds of extremes, electric, magnetic, ultra wave, pressure, and
in all kinds of combinations of these and more, until you get a small window where the HHO production increases.
Personally I have many years of experience as a product developer in the surface coating business, and I know how much pure chance
is involved in the discovery of new solutions.
Initially it is always a lot of wild non directed experiments until a "window" appears. This "window" may be such a thing as the 10 KW
radiowave experiment. Now you have to alter the parameters towards less energy input by combining this find with other windows that
have appeared in your test series.
It´s arduous but fun, and since this field still is like a white spot on the map, it may be extremely rewarding.
We don´t need heavy academic backgrounds and big investors, just an open mind and a lot of curiosity.
We don't even have to know how it worked, as long as it does. :)
Gwandau
Same as Meyer? Not even close.
Stan Meyer never ran a car off his silly tube cell unless it was plugged into AC mains power and even then the 55 HP engine never did anything but idle which is about how much power is needed to idle an engine.
Meyer made ozone in the "air gas processor" which is a laser ozone generator. In the bottom of the air gas processor are tubes that have piezo material and the ozone and steam mix in a resonant ultrasonic mixing chamber (tubular) and the ozone cleaves off the O atom from the H2O to form two O2 molecules and H2. The oxygen is magnetically separated and recycled. That is how Meyer's water car finally worked.
There are a few more details on the driving circuits / inductors that were never disclosed by Stan and his notes were clearly modified after his death. If you look at figure 10-4 you note that the stainless steel wire is called "composite" wire. I.e., the wire was coated with another metal and that metal was silver. The stainless core limits skin effect depth and the silver is used to form an accelerator coil.
Ever wonder why hundreds of tons of silver wire were really used at Oak Ridge? It had nothing to do with the shortage of copper wire. The Bush family was selling Hitler most of the copper during WWII on behalf of Rockafeller and the oterh powerful Jews that started the war through false flag attack. You can read more about that here: George Bush: http://tarpley.net/online-books/george-bush-the-unauthorized-biography/
Anyway, that is the big secret on how Meyer and Puharich ran a car on water. You can watch 5 videos on Puharich on youtube where puharich spells out many of the details.
Apparently Dynodon or Greer sold out or were placed under a gag order since Meyer's info. was removed from their web pages and Don's youtube channel. Don showed what was in the bottom of the air gas processor and the piezo was clearly visible in the 3" ss tubes in the bottom.
Now when you listen to Meyer's lectures, his chemistry, comments and photos make a bit more sense huh? ;)
Take a look at this video on youtube. It's all about the watertank again, however - It seems that Stan Mayer did try to confuse people with some details about his fuel cell. What actually happening isn't a resonance system - as there is a blocking diode in the circuit which is connected to the electrolysis.The positive and negative plates in the water tank was gradually charged untill a massive breakdown of the water occoured, and released huge amount of HHO. This charge was done in a series of high frequency periods - most like the flash light in a camera is charging. This repeting charges kept the production of HHO stable at very low input energy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HjIyxEvAYM&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HjIyxEvAYM&feature=related)
Vidar