http://sailingbeyondknowledge.podomatic.com/entry/2010-05-19T19_54_11-07_00
Regards
Ash
1) Ridiculous Website
2) Useless Pod
Waste of time.
Actually the site has unique interviews including a recent one with Trevor constable and the Panacea interview gives updates and insights into the latest open source technology for support.
Are you sure you in the right forum? Speak for you self
Ash
You are in the wrong forum. What you offer is spam-talk, nothing more. It's the same with the posted pod: Talk about nothingness. We have had that about a million times now.
I suggest you do your research on Trevor constable and Panacea and don't speak for others.No one is interested in your opinion, i think i can say that with confidence.
@ALL. you will also find a link to Thomas Brown there of interest.
regards
Ashtweth
I have looked what Panacea writes about on their amateurish homepage and there is nothing worth of interest. All entries consist of the same fuzziness that can be found on the whole internet. There is not a single invention that has been replicated or proven by its staff.
It's just another gathering site (though worse than rexresearch.com) with no substance. And so is the pod. I don't care who is Trevor as long as he cannot contribute something substantial. I can say this because I jumped to certain points of the pod and in fact it really was as expected: all of it was empty talk.
Waste of time. End of discussion.
You really are a dumb ass
The http://panaceauniversity.org/courses.htm
have devices replicated by both us and users in this forum, even some of their work, Dont know Trevor's technology and skip through the pod cast interview and think you know all of whats said there, Dood seriously,NONE of what your saying has any relevance to any one here and your opinion is worthless and lacks accuracy.
Sorry dood.
try another thread.
Go Spam your worthless opinion else where, you will get the same response.
You are posting, as if is a real university, which is not the case. This is only a self-proclaimed "university" by self-proclaimed "scientists". The way and attitude how you "scientists" work (including yourself) has clearly been shown in the evgray yahoo group: flamewars.
Ludicrous...
Your "courses" are not even worth a further comment...
Sorry (censored) ;). Wrong again, its stated there that its called a university cause we teach and is not recognized yet. But who cares what you think dood seriously, not one thing you have said has contributed to any thing or is of any accuracy or relevance.
Plus stating that the engineers here who have their work there is useless, not good mate, i think you might get a little talked down too soon , like i said, none of what your saying is accurate or relevant.
your talking to your self mate
gauscher, Panacea has tons of excellent info on their site and I believe Ash has obtained a Steorn license to study and replicate the Orbo. He and his associates have done a great deal for alternate energy. He apparently has created some enemies and I can only guess that is either based on those who oppose free energy or on ego.
This has nothing to do with "opposing free energy". I do my judgement on different aspects:
1) what has been promoted, how it is presented, what has been delivered, as well as the professional or non-professional attitude of its members (Panacea)
2) own research in alternative energy technologies, trying to replicate and experiment with certain devices myself, knowledge of how to work and document findings scientifically, investigating results from others, parallels in todays technology...
...and finally evaluating all of these together. So far, however, Panacea, resp. Mr. Ashtweth has delivered nothing usable, except some papers found everywhere on the internet, empty speeches on podcasts, and a lot of flamewars in the evgray yahoo group.
What "Panacea" lacks most however is evaluating inventions. Therefore it does not even deserve the title "University" (which it is not in fact). I could name 30 more detailed reasons on how messed up it really is only by investigating the contents of the website and its so called "references", but I won't waste my breath anymore on people who don't even realize how they push the "Free Energy Scene" in a bad light with their total ignorance. Mr. Ashtweth really needs to apply himself some serious skills.
Quote from: e2matrix on May 20, 2010, 02:29:12 PM
gauscher, Panacea has tons of excellent info on their site and I believe Ash has obtained a Steorn license to study and replicate the Orbo. He and his associates have done a great deal for alternate energy. He apparently has created some enemies and I can only guess that is either based on those who oppose free energy or on ego.
Hi E2matrix, its all good my Friend this guy is a time waster nothing more, dont waste your time on this dumb ass, he doesn't know a word of what he is talking about. Let this thread die my friend i forgot why i dont post here any more, a forum where a dumb ass who knows nothing and can criticize open source engineers work on the uni site and is allowed to criticize rex research and panacea. I have every technology here working from the course and its posted in the PDF, so do others, yet this dumb ass posts inaccurate information and makes some reference to past EVGRAY or some thing thats got nothing do with any thing.
And this dumb ass is allowed to spam the forum? COMICAL. Even on my worst days i have done 10000 times more for open source then this dumb ass.
Dont worry about replying to him, he is at best a waste of time. At best he is working for the oil companies for FREE which i find amusing.
regards
Ash
I have to mix in...and sorry if I hurt your feelings but I'm with Gauschor in this.
Your so called university is nothing but a website. It has no rights being called university.
It's just a collection of dubious research with no credibility or proven results what so ever.
And there's no ongoing questioning whether the research is valid or not.
In a "real" university this would be the case.....the most important case!
I dare to say this in risk of being banned for telling the truth, which is not appreciated here!
Sorry Dood. We state on the page its not an official university YET and we call it that cause we (the open source community) teach - That is stated clearly. I already posted that. But who cares.
we dont care what you think about that, engineers i know from here and us have replicated material that's posted in the courses. I have already posted that, what are you blind?
both you .......'s are mindless and will be ignored
nothing of relevance or accurate to say
what a joke to allow this mindless drivel posting
You can waste your own time not open source engineers
For engineers aware of what i am referencing,I suggest we ignore these
In future you can find updates on other forums ;)
There is great support for free energy and alternative energy. here is a geat $1 billion project just anounced in Australia making fresh water out of wind energy. There are several more multi Billion projects in the pipeline I know of. What attracts support if truth and logic. if it can be verified by thrid parties, makes economic sense then it willhappen.
Kind Regards
Mark Dansie
Quote from: ashtweth_nihilisti link=topic=9194.msg242025#msg242025 date=1274432447engineers i know from here and us have replicated material that's posted in the courses
Here is a constructive suggestion for you: now that you claim this, do yourself and the alternative energy community a favor and start to post pictures, videos and proper documenting from these replications, instead of promoting the same old fuzzy texts and worn out pictures taken from other websites.
Are you for real man?, our channel and the PDF has our replications in them.
WHERE DO YOU >>>>>'s come from? Sorry put both of them on IGNORE.
Wont be answering any more of these. I don't suggest others do either.
@Mark thanks for the heads up
How can something costing $1 billion ever be free energy, on any term?
But seriously, even little founded raging criticism should still be regarded as welcome input to larn from. If someone calls me an unfriendly @#%^&#, even if I disagree, apparently I have a PR issue where people understand me differently than I intend to be, let alone be seen.
While Panacea, from their sources I've read is a hugely great initiative, sure, I see room for improvement. That said, I found enough room for improvement on an actual, highly regarded university, to walk away from their open day, even though beforehand I was dead set on enlisting for the next 5-6 years of my life. Universities get attention, and they can improve.
Heck, the Technical Univeristy of Delft, Building Engineer Faculty, saw their highly regarded as fire-resistent building burn down to the ground recently, due to a coffee machine shorting out when a water pipe broke. During class hours no less. The building had been a textbook case for fire prevention.
Because I'm at least equally guilty of these accounts, I dare offer my supportive criticism to Panacea that at times they come across gullable and long-winded. I am the same.
I feel awkward when the word teaching is used when the technology at hand seems yet insuffiently confirmed as "real". I can only confirm that Panacea seems to do significant research into their subjects, however I am not sure their confirmations are their strongest quality. then, I have not studied their work many hours, and have mostly limited it to video's. Yes, the student of 2010 wants his/her info in multi-media.
Critics have an important role in society. Large companies like the one I work for, try to treat customer complaints as acute opportunities to up their game, or at least work through a checklist to see if things are still soundly organized.
I say, hurray for Panacea for existing, and making the effort, and hurray to their critics, as long as they use common respect and fair+funded arguments.
Me, I'd love to graduated from Panacea, when they acquire the formal status one day.
Some examples:
> Bedini Circuit which has been replicated by many people and all of them were only experiencing "Phantom-Overunity". What do you want to show here?
> MRA which is available as an inconsistent document(!) has been disproven as an overunity device by a real university. You really think a university is too stupid and can't work and verify experiments with their equipment? Sure...
> "Tesla circuit" based upon a Joulethief to light a lamp...
What you claim "building our children a future" is only a child's thought, because these are toys. Why is that: because these "inventions" are
1) either not delivering overunity, or
2) not able to power real loads like motors e.g. "Teslas Lighting Method" - which is nothing more than an optimized circuit of a JT.
Take motors as the most important load and then if you achieve some successful results using them, then you have something. That is what it's all about: real loads. And this is the reason why solarpanels and windcraft are supported and these other inventions are neglected.
Quote from: Cloxxki on May 21, 2010, 07:39:16 AM
How can something costing $1 billion ever be free energy, on any term?
But seriously, even little founded raging criticism should still be regarded as welcome input to larn from. If someone calls me an unfriendly @#%^&#, even if I disagree, apparently I have a PR issue where people understand me differently than I intend to be, let alone be seen.
While Panacea, from their sources I've read is a hugely great initiative, sure, I see room for improvement. That said, I found enough room for improvement on an actual, highly regarded university, to walk away from their open day, even though beforehand I was dead set on enlisting for the next 5-6 years of my life. Universities get attention, and they can improve.
Heck, the Technical Univeristy of Delft, Building Engineer Faculty, saw their highly regarded as fire-resistent building burn down to the ground recently, due to a coffee machine shorting out when a water pipe broke. During class hours no less. The building had been a textbook case for fire prevention.
Because I'm at least equally guilty of these accounts, I dare offer my supportive criticism to Panacea that at times they come across gullable and long-winded. I am the same.
I feel awkward when the word teaching is used when the technology at hand seems yet insuffiently confirmed as "real". I can only confirm that Panacea seems to do significant research into their subjects, however I am not sure their confirmations are their strongest quality. then, I have not studied their work many hours, and have mostly limited it to video's. Yes, the student of 2010 wants his/her info in multi-media.
Critics have an important role in society. Large companies like the one I work for, try to treat customer complaints as acute opportunities to up their game, or at least work through a checklist to see if things are still soundly organized.
I say, hurray for Panacea for existing, and making the effort, and hurray to their critics, as long as they use common respect and fair+funded arguments.
Me, I'd love to graduated from Panacea, when they acquire the formal status one day.
Hi Cloxxki /ALL
Be careful what you wish for you may just get it ;D if u listen to the interview you can see this year we getting our license to grow industrial hemp for sustainable development and will be teaching open source hemp building. And starting the GEET school with teaching many new open source info, Stiffler, Rose A circuit and much much more.
Steron official device will be here in 15 days and we will try and run it on super caps and run a load off it and report for all.
Bedini's new "solar" tesla switch" will be ordered soon and a report forming.
A lot on the way, we are also moving towards registering an official open source uni this year, (first ever) more to come my friend.
Ash
Quote from: gauschor on May 21, 2010, 08:00:05 AM
That is what it's all about: real loads. And this is the reason why solarpanels and windcraft are supported and these other inventions are neglected.
"formally" these are supported, but inreally they are suppressed, BECAUSE they are the best thing actually out there. Wind and solar are totally awesome and overwhelmingly powerful, if implemented on person-by-person scale. One turbine and one solar panel per person on the planet, and oil spills are over, by lack of oil.