@all
I have solved , the cosmos energy idea , and will try to explain it .
I issue here will be to make it clear , my English is bad but this is of the most importance .
First i would like to talk about intelligent design , in this day and age , people are either left or right brained , but usually not both .
This is really important to understand , because this unbalance is not representative of Humans of all ages.
The reason this is so crucial , is we usually dismiss anything we cant see .
We can't see something beautiful as a tool , but to a balanced brain perfection needs to be as useful as beautiful . So they would not make something that needed power without including the power in the design .
The first intelligent design i have ever say was NS electromagnet battery radio coil ... Function and energy merged in a single design working on its own , connecting a battery to it would not only be useless and nonfunctional. Pyramids ...
Now Tesla visited NS and took a long look at NS coil , and decided to explore and push to the limits the NS design , this info can be verified on John bedini site (john studied the NS coil , but had to build one with an external battery , SGmotor) .
Now today i looked at the pancake coil , entitled electromagnet .
Back then copper wire was covered by cotton , it would not have needed much , look how the connection is the same as NS coil , this is a free standing electromagnet , no need for a battery ...
The same coil is used at the bottom of the Tesla coil ...
Those are intelligent designs , no one could figure it out because the battery is part of the design , putting a battery to it would not work ...
What to we all to , always try battery on everything , for anyone to understand what is happening , one would have to be born out side of the proverbial box , and speaking the language fluently . :D
Now , everyone by now knows what happen , to a pulse coil , the back emf usually shows higher voltages , but the coil is a battery dose that mean we could adjust the output voltage of the battery by changing the pulse speed , i am sure we can .
Now if you are a man that studies nature , you can conceive and explain physics and its reaction as being caused by earth and the cosmos .
Siting still , sting in a car going at 100mph , does mean you are not moving , but you are far for standing still , we are always moving , while seeping the earth takes you for a spin , you are always under a 1G stress , we usually dismiss it in calculation , but this is a magnetic field , now this opens up the questioning a bit.
Compass needles seem to show it best .
In retrospect , this can explaine , the Tesla coil , Hubard coil , Hendershot , even Sm ...
The easy explanation , for all those machines are the cosmos energy ;D , it sure is easier to explain .
Mark
Hi Mark,
I always wondered if a Vector Inversion Generator could be hooked to a Tesla pancake coil and if it works like your design as a NS then it could be a self priming VIG.
http://sbir.nasa.gov/SBIR/successes/ss/8-072text.html
I built one based on this patent:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=1v8uAAAAEBAJ
The patent makes it seem simple with the foil wrapped between the ribbon cable (I used 25ft long about an inch wide, 16 wire strand), pain to coil without constantly breaking the foil. It took me two days and constantly tearing it apart and rebuilding it again and again. I could never get it to pulse out after all the work, I tried up to 100watts 100vdc @ 1amp, no dice.
Now if you could take your design idea and wrap the iron wire with cotton and the copper magnet wire with foil then if it works as a Stubblefield it could be used as a self pulsing VIG. When electrostatic and electromagnetic energy converge that is when you get high voltage and current transients.
@Dreamthinkbuild
Thanks for the posts , interesting ...
I made a prototype already , it works for me , i took a copper sheet and a iron one cut slices 1/3 of an inch wide , insulator on both sides , and you really need to keep them tight , the insulation needs to already be wet before adding the pressure to the coil .
Then check the dc voltage , now if you don't use a core and the coil design , it will be hard to know if it works , a well placed compass will tell you if it works or not . The meter will give you a low dc voltage .
But the magic is this coil , gives you dc and ac . If you pulse it will it respect the laws of a regular transformer or the laws of the battery current wise , 50 miliamp at .5 volts is nothing but at 120 ...
@those not familiar to the NS coil and the idea shown here .
Those are video of lasersaber , and are quite educative .
http://www.youtube.com/user/lasersaber#p/u/9/lcjxA7bYUp0
In this one he uses the coil , like a regular dc battery .
http://www.youtube.com/user/lasersaber#p/u/11/JHPKSdRRPCQ
http://www.youtube.com/user/lasersaber#p/u/7/ZuQGuXJ02fo
@all
Those that have exciter coil , tesla coil , etc , you need to make you primary into a galvanic pair .
The voltage is the same regardless of the size , the surface area determine the current , the choice of metals determine the longevity .
This means the voltage does not need to be 1.5 volts 2 coils in series makes it 3 volts , if you try this remember do not connect both side of the pairs that will only raise the current .
Mark
Mark:
As you know, I have read all of the NS stuff I could get my hands on. Tesla too, including his unclassified patents. I have seen this pancake coil many, many times and i have also seen some very good (looking) replications of it.....
BUT
The replications all used insulated copper wire (modern) for their coils. I never once stopped to think about what you have pointed out here with your discovery. Not even one time. Tesla and NS were friends or at least compatriots as I have read in the research. Back then, there was no plastic insulated wire, if you wanted insulated wire, you used the cotton as that was all they had. They were both in the same time period. (NS and Tesla)
Now, looking at the pancake coil AFTER reading your posts...it looks a lot different. It is an NS coil of a different design, but, basically the same. The only real difference I see, as you pointed out, is the lack of a core on Tesla's but, maybe there was a core and he kept that part to himself, or, maybe he wanted higher frequency so he used an air core?
One could bury this in the ground and get the same, or higher output than the NS coil no doubt.
I admit I did not see this one coming.
Nice work and excellent thinking.
Bill
check the last paragraph of this post. ;)
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7769.msg211810#msg211810
bill, i may have fleshed out the thought more completely in the pm i sent you about it months ago. i don't have it saved and can't fully recall what i said in it. do you have it saved?
Good stuff MK1. Lots of cheap and easy solutions to potential issues when the material deteriorates and the coil begins to loosen up. Times are sure going to be interesting. Thanks for doing what you are doing.
Take care.
nap
Wilby:
I spent some time searching my pm's from that time period and can not locate it. I have several times deleted all of my pm's to save bandwidth for Stefan. (Housekeeping) I read your post on the link you posted and I do recall you pm'ing me about this.
Sorry I did not save it.
Bill ***EDIT***
I do recall the part about burying the coil but if you did point out about using cotton covered wire ala NS, I d not recall that as it would have made a lot of sense to me. If you did and it went past me, I am sorry.
Bill
@all
@all
I heard once about Ed rewiring , a junkyard alternator with iron wire .
I bet that was bifilar copper/iron , to make it into a self runner , yes that is now also solved ...
The Tesla patent that so many people see as being a tpu , well ...
Insulated iron wire core , with one coil of cotton covered coil and a second for secondary and its a self running motor ( 4 axe pulse) transformer .
On tesla patents there is usually no batteries to be found ::)
This open all the doors , be creative , the world needs you ...
Mark
@all
Here are two modern day example of intelligent design .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qKy1uPP5ZfE
By Mopozco have a look at his jt while you are there ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaCGJNCWlkU
And LIdmotor , look at his NS replication while you are at it ...
Mark
@all
Nathan was part of a group called "big six" Smart Daaf Boys that also included Tesla . NS had a son 1905 - Born: William Tesla Stubblefield, May 7. Died October 14, 1906 (17 months old).
Nathan's fellow inventors, A. Frederick Collins and Nikola Tesla,
whom he got to know fairly well during his Philadelphia demonstrations and throughout 1908, were all aware of his personal ambitions and desires to bring honor and world-wide recognition to Murray, Kentucky. It was Tesla who helped Nathan come up with the name Teléph-on-délgreen, using French accents over Telé and dél to add a little French touch to the Stubblefield kids' Teléph-on-délgreen theme song. Nathan and Ada named their baby boy William Tesla, in 1905.
http://smart90.com/soulfind.com/nathanstubblefield.htm#RadioStory
ok the site is really bad but the info is great .
Mark
@all and Mark (Mk1)
When watching this video on YouTube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGdpa3GKN34 about concrete cells or batteries (which use aluminium and copper separated by concrete) I saw a connection to the Stubblefield coil:
The wires of the primary winding of a Stubblefield coil (iron wire and copper wire) are separated by cotton and the moist cotton is the carrier of the electrolyte that enables the galvanic reaction giving some electric current.
The two metals of the "concrete cell" (aluminium and copper) are separated by concrete and the moist concrete is the carrier of the electrolyte that enables the galvanic reaction giving some electric current.
I built a cell with
- aluminium sheet (with little holes)
- a few millimeters of tile cement
- copper sheet
which is lighting a red LED with a Joule Thief circuit (see the attached photos).
To go further one could roll two long ribbons of aluminium and copper with a few millimeters of tile cement in between into some sort of bifilar (bi-ribbon) pancake coil. This should not only produce some current (galvanic reaction) but also a magnetic field like the Stubblefield coil.
This would be a variation of what Mark (Mk1) reported in his Reply #2 on June 10, 2010, 05:55:47 AM :
QuoteI made a prototype already , it works for me , i took a copper sheet and a iron one cut slices 1/3 of an inch wide , insulator on both sides , and you really need to keep them tight , the insulation needs to already be wet before adding the pressure to the coil.
Greetings, Conrad
Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on June 09, 2010, 09:05:29 PM
Hi Mark,
I always wondered if a Vector Inversion Generator could be hooked to a Tesla pancake coil and if it works like your design as a NS then it could be a self priming VIG.
http://sbir.nasa.gov/SBIR/successes/ss/8-072text.html
I built one based on this patent:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=1v8uAAAAEBAJ
The patent makes it seem simple with the foil wrapped between the ribbon cable (I used 25ft long about an inch wide, 16 wire strand), pain to coil without constantly breaking the foil. It took me two days and constantly tearing it apart and rebuilding it again and again. I could never get it to pulse out after all the work, I tried up to 100watts 100vdc @ 1amp, no dice.
Now if you could take your design idea and wrap the iron wire with cotton and the copper magnet wire with foil then if it works as a Stubblefield it could be used as a self pulsing VIG. When electrostatic and electromagnetic energy converge that is when you get high voltage and current transients.
First I'd like to say nice work Mk1! I seemed to have missed some things about that particular Tesla device.
If anyone would like to build something similar to the patent mentioned by DreamThinkBuild I'd suggest getting some HVAC foil tape that is used on metal duct work. It's very strong foil and sticky on one side. Now that I think of it I'll bet it would be great for rolling your own capacitors.
parallel-wound series connected coils increase magnetic field strength. This is well-known Tesla even states it in his patent, the patent was for the pancake shape which due to the large spacing between the adjacent wires increased capacitance, its usefulness was described to eliminate the cost of adding capacitors in shunt.
NS and Tesla's coil both share some similarities, but there are alot of differences.
I have thought about trying the Fe-Cu pancake design but I do not think that it would function well. 2 reasons mainly, size limitations and galvanic effect ( not enough power ). The tesla coil doesnt have a core but im sure one could be used with it, i dont know what the effect of that would be
@alchemist123
I know about his coil , don't worry ...
I however , don't agree with your conclusions .
First , yes there is a galvanic reaction , but its not the source of the power .
The power comes form the changing magnetic field , the coil design of the voltaic cell . No battery , so far jt circuit works for them even it the voltage is under the minimum needed for the transistor to work on a regular 1.5 v cell.
The meters we use are blind , to what is happening here .
Now lets say i take 2 sheets of metal one copper and one iron , one inch wide , and build it into a coil , cotton insulation and something to hold it tight , i will get pretty good amp from it , now if you connect one end of one coil to the other end of the other coil , the coil becomes one big electromagnet , make and brake that connection you get free energy .
Most of Tesla work got retrofitted for regular AC power , that is the only way they got it to work .
Ok now lets say i put nickel on my copper , and use zinc for the cathode , the coil will barely make 1 volt , but will be many amps , now the bemf induced in the coil is in the battery , the voltage of the battery will change depending on the pulse speed , it will be higher then one volts and the coil will still produce big amps , and that is dc current .
Everyone is still trying to figure a way to make a unipolar generator , 10 years later , still nothing ...
What is the power to magnetic field ratio .
Mark
Quote from: DreamThinkBuild on June 09, 2010, 09:05:29 PM
... I built one based on this patent:
http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=1v8uAAAAEBAJ ...
I did look at the patent on GOOGLE'S Advanced_Patent_Search, as shown above.
I'd say it's straightforward as it goes in the text and drawing. But if you were following the patent exactly, wouldn't it be easier to wind the coil using computer printer ribbon cable? It would be stronger and easier to wind that coil.
--Lee
An interesting thread. Copper+Iron Coil like Stubblefield in a Tesla coil configuration. I have to admit I like this. I would imagine that a tubular secondary could be added (like standard Tesla coil designs).
Has anyone built this configuration and studied it's properties?
I play with modern induction heating which employ the pancake coil design. Obviously what I play with are 'power supplied' coils and not self powered. The circuits driving them are series-parallel resonant and zero current switching. Real neat stuff. At any rate, coils I use are Litz wire / pancake format. One side of coil has magnetic field inhibiting metallic strips thus actual useful magnetic field is uni-directional. This is typical game manufacturers of these devices employ. Again, all for induction heating. I have constructed tubular coils and inductively heated water, like in picture I posted on other forum.
Stubblefield seemed to have had ability to draw good current from his constructions. Were any amplification techniques at play here? Can this copper-iron pancake coil be made to perform at levels beyond DC mA? I wonder about these things.
I'm not so much a believer in free energy in the terms of 'making something from nothing'. Impossible, it has to come from some place. But I am open to energy systems that possibly pull from external sources, most likely in subtle ways. Such systems would not violate scientific laws if properly documented. The question I have is...is electromagnetism a candidate for such a system? If it is, then what external energy can be pulled in and from where? And..what transfer mechanism is most plausible for this task?
This remains the basis of my interest in Stubblefield systems. An earth located NS battery would at least have an opportunity to pull in external energies we know clearly exist in that environment. How much external energy is not known as I am not aware of anybody who has had performance beyond the NS battery chemistry capabilities. It is why I have stopped battery building and focused on understanding the conceptuals. If think correctly...changing magnetic fields move current AND moving current creates change in magnetic fields. Is this a way to look at a Stubblefield battery? It seems to operate in both modes which I find interesting... Thus a NS battery must operate on a switching principal at some useful frequency. This is all great, people doing this today with these things but low power, low usefulness. Chemistry bound and not pulling in from external environment in my opinion.
It is also interesting to me that Tesla reviewed the Stubblefield construction and released a variation of bifilar coil. I didn't get the impression that Tesla focused on a self powered version of this. If I am wrong, please correct me. Was the Tesla version better? I do not have enough knowledge to say. I would appreciate any education on this.
Assuming pancake format in copper-iron bifilar design, you get a combination battery / electromagnet. So..
1) There will be some electrochemical potential there. Call it 1V or less. current probably real low, mA's.
2) Connect the electrodes and a magnetic field is created. I would assume it is right angle from pancake
surface. I also assume it is on both sides of the pancake surface. Field real weak.
3) Unconnect electrodes... Field collapses. Current induced into coil.
Theory...Supply current, build field, field interacts with 'environment' and becomes bigger somehow, current removed, field collapses, current induced. This induced current greater than supplied do to system ability to vacuum magnetic from its environment.
Question on pancake coils of this nature...They induce current ok? Sorry, I'm so used to tubular format...
What differences in this coil format that make it better/worse than standard tubular?
Sorry for being a bit crude but I need to understand the basics before moving forward... Help :)
General subject says half baked..so here is some more :)
Assume a system has slight ability to pull external magnetism from its environment and induce a current larger than its supplied one.
Assume the profits were reinvested back in. Thus more increase. Continue this cycle until some limit is achieved in exterior environment theft. I would imagine there is a limit to bandwidth in this sort of conduit.
So we have a pump that needs initial priming. One that has ability to increase in power. One that could possible sustain itself so long as enough outside environment energy theft is occurring.
So how do we convince supposed energy outside/adjacent of our system to bond with our produced field in strong enough fashion that it gets sucked back in during induction process? Stubblefield allegedly pulled it from the ground, Tesla and others allegedly pulled it out of the atmosphere. I suspect the methods in each case were similar if not fundamentally the same.
While still baked, I ponder frequencies... Do we need to tune our 'radio' to the same channel as surrounding energy we intend to pull in? I suspect this is somewhat variable in nature so we need a tuner that follows along and always stays in tune. Forum member Tishitang thought along these lines. I haven't heard from him in quite some time now....
Like I said...baked. ::)
I plan on talking with the ground this weekend via my induction circuit + pancake coil. Am limited to only 2 frequencies and I think they are both wrong (25khz, 50khz). The driving circuit operation is probably wrong for this application too but I will try anyway...
I think that I will have to build all new system that is more tuned for this type of work.
Plan is to use test probes in ground, in vicinity of my 'invading' magnetic field and look for any electrical responses. Crude, but all I can think of at the moment. I'm open to testing suggestions.
Questions...(i'm not expert in any of this...)
1) what is field geometry for pancake coil look like?
2) anyone using ferrites to inhibit or modify magnetic field geometries?
Quote from: MW383 on September 24, 2010, 03:44:01 PM
Questions...(i'm not expert in any of this...)
1) what is field geometry for pancake coil look like?
2) anyone using ferrites to inhibit or modify magnetic field geometries?
Can you use iron oxide filings from, say, beach sand to show you the electromagnetic fields?
--Lee
There is a great video on Youtube somewhere where a guy takes a bottle of mineral oil (it may have been baby oil, it was thick and clear anyway) and mixes in very fine iron filings. He shows where this give you a 3-D view of the magnetic fields. It looks like it worked pretty well. It was in a clear bottle and you could plainly see them.
Bill
Quote from: the_big_m_in_ok on September 28, 2010, 03:58:30 PM
Can you use iron oxide filings from, say, beach sand to show you the electromagnetic fields?
--Lee
Yes I was thinking along these lines. If one were to look at a hobbyist tesla coil design, a simple tubular secondary of smaller diameter resides above the pancake. These obviously function well in this application. It leads me to believe the created field from primary and the physical secondary coil occupy the same real estate. tesla wouldn't have done anything non-optimal...
TEST RESULTS = FAILURE:
It would appear that pancake coils (air coils) see use in high frequency applications. While these coils are cool and efficient at what they do, I'm having thoughts that they may not be ideal for earth batteries of useful power. My induction cooker obviously has this coil and so does tesla coil, both high frequency devices. NO worthwhile ground observations made with my experimentation, NONE. All wrong for NS !! I am not convinced about proper frequency yet. I tend to drift into the 'we need low frequency' line of thinking and one resonant with earth.
So, how will we get lots of power out of an NS battery? The primary coil has to be the conduit as it is HIGH AMP capable, no mA's. I cannot imagine these batteries operating the things they supposedly did with secondary coil power alone. Maybe I am wrong? So we either need one hell of a lot of magnetism, or one hell of a lot of power in this system somehow.... Standing alone, the NS replications have and always will have low power from electrochemistry alone, thus a weak magnetic field produced in primary, and probably a negligible amount of power tapped off a secondary. And this is all it will ever be. I see various switching methods being employed. This = right direction in general.
Option 1 = magically capture magnetism from outside the battery and somehow use it to increase field of primary in dramatic fashion, thus allowing more rugged secondary construction of high power, thus power heavy devices. This is a foolish thinking....
Option 2 = use earth magnetism for resonance purposes only (in the coil switching mechanism). Therefore, get primary coil cycling with Earth frequency exactly. Local field around battery stronger than earth's. Since everything is on the same channel so to speak, Earth will respond electrically in order to balance the equation. Remember, even a weak primary field of NS battery is still way-way stonger than earth magnetics. I suggested all of this a long time ago in another forum. This is where electrochemistry of NS battery comes into play, and most importantly - those heavy guage windings in the primary. What you have here is an electron pump. And one that pulls electrons from outside the system and from an environment that is full of them (EARTH). Power taken from primary = way more Amps which is typically needed for heavy devices, especially those in NS's time. Theoretically, one could start NS battery and it would initially have a low output. This output should increase in time though with the upper limit being established by primary coil construction. The power has to come from somewhere, I do not believe in magic...sorry. Lots and lots of electrons in the earth. We need these! A better option....
So new direction: Build NS coil and for starters, artificially drive it at real low frequencies. Battery to be earth buried, no tabletop operation. A variable resistor should be able to be used within a circuit of sorts to get things to real low Hz. Battery should take off according to theory. Ideally, electronics should be thrown away and replaced with a simple circuit that directly interfaces with earth's resonance, and even if it is slightly variable in nature (somehow)... It needs to always follow along. This thinking tends to harmonize with ground radio. Stubblefield was using naturally occuring low frequencies as a carrier. Hence it was possible to theoretically transmit through the ground long distances provided the signal was there to use and piggy back on. Seems like rocks and weak electromatic waves don't get along. So there would be limitations... Through water aspects are interesting. Modern ELF probably differs very little from what Stubblefield was doing.... Look at simple copper and iron rods put in ground. Everyone has done this at one time or another. Has anyone considered how cool it is to have an electrochemical cell function this way? I myself did this at a 50ft distance and viola...voltage and small currents. Hence, Tishitang's former postings employing resonant circuits and accompanying ground rods is probably very valid thinking. It is these rods that we need to use in order to get primary coil firing at correct rate...
Further experiments could be made with above ground antennai linked into NS system. Me need to read more on this. Looks good though....
Have also thought a lot about general construction of NS battery. I think simple iron core of proper proportions good enough. No need for exotic materials as we need high strength field capability at real low frequencies. NS made it work, so can we. Perhaps a fancy version of this would be bundled core like on Bedini motors but I obviously can't comment on any advantages with this. I have my own source of cotton insulated copper wire, so no big deal here. I even have the option to have done locally out of non-degradeable but still water permeable materials if I wanted to get fancy (I just might too because my local guy has modern equipment that lays in a real nice cross woven pattern via 10 supply spindles : shorting with local material should be near impossible). I'm from battery industry originally so my choice for core and between layer 'insulator' will be battery grade seperator material. I'm after proper electrolytic pathways here and battery grade seperator material premium for this. After that I will make an effort at a clean construction. Maybe I build a secondary. If I do it will be optimized/stacked disc construction. I expect proper running NS battery to be a noisy/buzzy/vibrating thing. Thus having a bolt design could be useful in keeping construction from vibrating itself apart. Seems like a damp Stubblefield battery = way to go and not totally flooded one. This seems plausible because more oxidation occurring in something only slightly damp. When current abilities of this thing realized, I would not expect too much electrode degredation because I expect a majority of electrons to be pulled in from earth and not produced by internal chemistry. Internal chemistry there just to facilitate the process and provide a electrochemical potential. Think of things in these terms. What do you do when a rechargeble battery goes dead. You recharge it. Think of NS battery in same terms only having alternate electron source.... I have mentioned all of these things before... Bottom line, NS had no crazy electronics. Just crude devices that operated on principle.
Whoa.....A new concept has emerged. Faintly hinted at here and there. I'm not sure why those making certain hints didn't just come out with things in plain fashion. I think they must be in on it... It is either that or they too failed to see the entire field. No matter...
At any rate, it is clearly time to build. I was thinking about certain coil aspects backwards / and in mainstream concepts. This is totally incorrect. I now see just how unique this system is. It is so different that I cannot accurately predict what its actual behavior would be beyond the basics, hence it is build time.
oppose - attract
push - pull
plus - minus
on-off
give-take
forwards-backwards
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goal = have the natural environment say "what the hell is this little man-made intrusion?",
"this needs to be neutralized..."
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time to jump out of the box now....
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on a side note, this is not overunity at all. it is simply a VERY creative way at grabbing
existing energy. zero physical laws violated. it is a process that uses overlapping mediums
in order to accomplish the task. that's the creative part. a combination of systems existing
in very close physical proximity. a conversion process if you will. and that is real slick.....
build aspects becoming very organized. no chickenball approach. included in the build will be major acquisition of right equipment that will scientifically validate various core aspects. Further aspects easily verifiable via simple/crude techniques, and certainly available in 1900. bottom line = physics works and all of its various calculateables. Screw OU and the horse it rides in on. Rubbishness pure and simple and for the disillusioned. No blind building. No tabletop circus acts or parlor tricks. In the ground it will be and as it should be. There is no other place. Why dedicate Amp capable construction to mA games? NOPE. Forget that. Why theorize blindly using a variety of buzz words? NOPE. It's time for nastiness. If there ends up being hurt feelings or those of antagonistic variety...I don't care. One more post. Not sure when yet. Thorough work takes time. Detractors? Gehenna to the lot of you, after the 2nd time through of course. 100 years of it. It is pass/fail so this could be seen as a bonus, at least to the ones that pass. Energy won't mean a damn thing in that little scenerio either...Other than original source. Goodbye cowboy.....
1. Don't give up, on anything! You are still doing yours experiments, right? Do not quite just becouse you are hurt! There are many others reading you...
2. Did you know about Tesla's
- experiments with brain waves? and his inspirations?
- he(!) said that his turbine is his greatest invention? (so, practicaly he admit electricity was on second place in his mind)
- so he always thought about efficienty, no overunity?
3. Do you think nuclear energy is an overunity design? You receive more then you give?
No, you always consume something. More and more efficient. But, you have to consume something.
The fact is we dont know yet all sources of energy (think again about nuclear fision), and if we touch accidentally one of this unknown source and reach this over incomming energy, we quickly say "hei, look! overunity factor!!!", and our next generations will say looking back at us "what a limited minds!"
How do we all admit the existence of God? By accepting the fact "Someone had to create the Universe. It coudnt create itself!"
So, even at the Universe range, there has to be an initial impuls, one first energy.
And we do not do anything else but to consume it. In one way, or another...
Tesla wanted to absorbe the energy from the ionosfere. For this, he created a lot of inventions, tools that by coincidence can be usefull and into another purposes. Its like current. You can do so many things with it!
Yes, high frecvency, high voltage. High energy. Nothing else but just another new phisics laws that we just rediscover. But no, no overunity factor.
So, let say it in another brutal way: let's say I have an invention that can multiply energy without any other energy cost. Why do I have to restrict the system? Why do I have to say "hei, it can multiply energy, but just to some given limit!" Why do I have to be so ignorant to limit a law that I just didnt discover yet?! Just becouse I am afraid? Of what my mind just said? Of what that system can do? Or just becouse I admit long way before I demonstrate that my system is fake?
Yes, new source of energy! OK!
Yes, new efficient way of consuming energy! OK!
Yes, new free energy (in the similar concept of free solar, wind energy)! OK!
But, no, no overunity factor.
Sorry, but if you can multiply energy out of nothig, eventually your mecanism will produce so much energy that will fully full the entire Universe, so in the end, it will be evident that you cannot be samone else, but just God itself. Yes, in this conditions, I will agree. Otherwise, it will be impossible. Becouse this is the concept of energy itself. Give it another name, and I will agree with you. But do not call it Energy. Do not say "overunity energy factor!" It's a redundance in speaking!
Hi all i made i quick video to show what i came up with , its my modern version of the Ns coil .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMwLIwoAKq8