What do we think about this one?
http://pesn.com/2010/06/12/9501659_Alperen_TurXator_to_Market/
As usual when there is overunity being announced there is always a Turkish inventor involved.
So many Turks....and all claim overunity....and all are pore scammers when the fat lady sings.
Yawn. How many times have we heard this before? So-and-so motor "ready for production" etc - then nothing happens. When I can buy an over-unity device at my local hardware store then I will be keen to congratulate the inventors - till then such news stories are just hot air - unfortunately.
Here is their website.
Looks pretty interesting !
http://www.alperen.com/
Habe a look at their videos.
They also have the theory about it explained there a bit.
It seems to use Lenz´s law in reverse to add in the energy from
permanent magnets.
Looking forward to see more...
Regards, Stefan.
Here is their Youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/TURXATOR#g/c/456198A501D7E407
Here is an article in a turkisch newspaper:
http://arsiv.zaman.com.tr/2003/12/13/haberler/h5.htm
and this is the english translation via Google translator:
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Farsiv.zaman.com.tr%2F2003%2F12%2F13%2Fhaberler%2Fh5.htm
Seems this guy has very interesting devices.
Regards, Stefan.
I hope this is real as it looks pretty promising.
In the video, I wonder why he did not have some type of load on the motor shaft? He could have it run another small generator as it seemed to have some good power there.
It was hard to tell how bright those bulbs were but all in all, I hope it works for them.
Bill
In this video they have 23.5 Watts input and about 64 Watts output,
so over 270 % efficiency.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htByCIwHDe4
This should be able to loop it back and have it selfrunning.
This is not shown yet.
Regards, Stefan.
I'm tired of hearing about inventors who are ready to produce their device. It's either fake &/or overpriced, or their website magically disappears. Sometimes it feel like I'm the only person who is both interested in free energy, and actually knows how to spread the info without it getting suppressed.
There is no such thing as free energy suppression except in the minds of people.
The reason of any free energy devices don't actually get out to people is simply
because they don't work and never has. It's all a scam. Especially when the
inventors hold something secret, blaim it on MIB's or say's they are going for a patent.
If they really had something of interest they should write a serious article and
send it for a peer review process. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peer_review
If passing the review it will be by published by established magazines and
read worldwide. The next step would be international replications and perhaps a
Nobel prize some years later, and not to forget, a nice place in the books of history.
If you don't know that free energy can be done, than why are you on a website called OverUnity.com? It even says "Free Energy" in the top left corner of the site. People who willingly admit to being here simply to troll should be banned.
I've been pursuing overunity for years now but the longer the pursuit, while learning a
thing or two in the process, one gets to a standpoint where you have to take decision.
Either one enters the realm of lunatics that claims overunity every second day or
believes in all kinds of statements from other free energy lunatics.
Then free energy pursuit has then become a crazy mans religion.....
OR...one can take a step backward and sanely review the knowledge gained,
make a sane conclusion based on facts, completely free from delirious thinking, and
then find the true answer to all the facts served....
It's all up to yourself whether you belong to the clouded minds or the enlightened minds.
I feel bad for you. You're deluded enough to only be able to think of this in such extremes. That you're either accept free energy or crazy, or that you believe it's impossible and sane. Yet you still come here. Do you come here to troll as a form of revenge, to feel better for the amount of time you feel you've wasted on free energy, or do you still come here because you hold out hope? Or both?
Actually FatChance is right. Also many seemingly innovative devices are not usable for today's purpose (e.g Mazenauer Motor). However I've also learned a lot while reading in here and did some experimenting and researching in this matter on my own. What I've learned too is, that the conspiracy theory about energy suppression is a myth only. Although I'm sure that the car oil could be replaced by plants oil, because that is already proven. We just need a plantage large enough to supply our needs (or less cars).
It's still an interesting read once in a while, so a visit in here never hurts :)
Here is something new about it:
http://web.mac.com/dear_someone/TURXATOR%E2%84%A2/Magnetism.html
Click on Play Slideshow.
This slideshow says, that pulling directly apart 2 magnets needs less energy ( distance x force)
than letting 2 magnets attract from side to side.
So you win some energy in each cycle.
Their solid state device E-Turxator seems to be some kind of MEG like device,
where the Lenz law backemf seems to to be inverted coupled into the input,
so it does not have a bad braking effect, but an amplification effect.
Here is more:
http://web.mac.com/dear_someone/TURXATOR%E2%84%A2/Science_of_TurXator%E2%84%A2/Entries/2001/1/29_Fundamentals_of_TurXator%E2%84%A2_II..html
Regards, Stefan.
Here is the E-Turxator:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-dQtZ69ClnQ
Here is the efficiency measurement results:
Automatic Google translator translation of this newspaper article:
http://arsiv.zaman.com.tr/2003/12/13/haberler/h5.htm
Overturn the laws of physics, the Turkish: all over the world revolutionary invention
Turkish Armed Forces, retired electronic weapons expert Atilla Alper, who upset the laws of physics carried out a claimed invention.
Alper concluded for 21 years working on the project, the basic principles of classical physics, 'The productivity per unit of energy spent is always smaller than 1,' the threshold exceeds said. Gross energy is spent on 5, suggesting that the net is getting 3.8 times the Alper, work on the basis of 'a substance found in nature, absorbing the energy supply more electrons' told lies.
Scientific and Technical Research Institute claims Alperen'in asked Turkey (TUBITAK), Prof. of high energy physicist. Dr. Yigit day, physics 'electron absorption' method is used, but as a concrete ispatlanmadan said such a thing can not be accepted. Project work will continue on the grounds that the media could not find the Turkish Air Force in 1991, leaving Atilla Alper, said the project was based on 80 years. Alper, according to his own testimony, it started in junior high school, continued in the military electronics and weapons into curiosity.
In those years, taking into account the work has focused on Turkey's suffering electricity shortages. Calculated the energy spent on studies, more energy can be achieved, but the reactions from the technical impossibilities and did not explain to anyone thinking about his invention. Could not perform any work within the SWC as Alper, 1991, left his post and went to the U.S. Air Forces. Here are some prototype of his invention produced in consultation with the experts and businessmen. Two-part invention Turxator (Turks generator) and Turxotor (Turks engine) called.
Turxator section, Turxotor'dan obtained by using mechanical energy that the electron dense material soÄŸuruluyor. Turxotor at the high level of torque is necessary for the Turxator (mechanical power) is achieved. Part of the energy obtained from a combination of the two is used to Turxotor, while the rest are general use of energy.
The invention of the fruit of 21 years of detailed information about a process that does not Alper, work on the basis of 'a substance found in nature soÄŸurularak high amount of energy supply more electrons' lie said. This method exceeds the laws of classical physics Alper defending, said: "classical physics, a unit of energy expended per unit yield from the (energy), the amount would be less than 1. However, we were able to exceed this threshold.
Current prototipimizle, we spent 5 gross energy, 3.8 times the net we have achieved.
This is a first of its kind and a revolutionary method of power generation technology. "Innovation is planning to produce the energy that expresses Alper, finished by saying:" Space is a wide field of use as tools in a variety of electronic goods by taking advantage of this technology will produce energy.
Energy electricity generation facilities will be established şirketlerimce sağlayacağımız own marketing plan. "Alperen'e located within the United States that support the largest Italian-born American citizen, George Mazzacano (62) invention astonishment when confronted, he said.
Mazzacano, "shortly after meeting with Mr. Atilla became intimate. After a while I learned working on an invention Alperen'in. I've been on this issue yadımcı him. Perhaps as a very tangible support is not, but I wanted to achieve while working on technology to Turkey, and that certainly succeeded. "He said.
Quote from: gauschor on July 04, 2010, 06:20:41 AM
Actually FatChance is right. Also many seemingly innovative devices are not usable for today's purpose (e.g Mazenauer Motor). However I've also learned a lot while reading in here and did some experimenting and researching in this matter on my own. What I've learned too is, that the conspiracy theory about energy suppression is a myth only. Although I'm sure that the car oil could be replaced by plants oil, because that is already proven. We just need a plantage large enough to supply our needs (or less cars).
It's still an interesting read once in a while, so a visit in here never hurts :)
What are you talking about? There is obviously a concerted suppression of what we call here 'free energy'. There is no mainstream entity that would touch research in this field with a ten foot pole despite the existing definitive proof that such energy exists. Researchers in this field are forced to spend their own hard earned money for experiments in their garages, experiments wanting in many important ways because of lack of proper funding. This revolution is going through very hard times through the meanders of mountains of obstructions set by the powers that be. It is pretty sad that even in this forum one should be forced to remind people once in a while about the reality of the situation which is easy to rub and irresponsible participants take advantage of that instead of focusing on the issues.
Thanks for posting the article article hartiberlin, but I can't find a translation for the word "soÄŸurularak" anywhere. :-[
http://pesn.com/2010/11/30/9501732_Alperen_Group_Contracting_85_GW_of_TurXator_Generation/