A week ago I was browsing youtube for the HHO term to see what's new, suddenly I found a video called : " 2004 DODGE PU RUNS ON 100% WATER.mpg " for a good reason I make a local copy of every video that is showing some progress on HHO mater! Well in two words on the clip there is a guy that used to have an account on YouTube by the name DoomTracker1. He shows his pickup and an HHO system he built, one of the interesting things is his system buffers HHO gas to around 60psi, and then he runs his truck on HHO only ... He also explains that the production is enough to run on road but when climbing a hill it is not enough and the buffer runs out of HHO. Any how only 3 days after the video was uploaded - YouTube not only deleted the video but also closed the whole account of Doomtracker1 ! I will soon upload the video in another website and you will be able to see ! EVERYONE OF YOU SHOUD PAY ATTENTION TO THIS AND AT LEAST GET ANGRY !!!!
Here is a link to the google cache of the video : http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GpL2st2KiqMJ:www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Ded1uL2bt75o%26feature%3Drelated+2004+DODGE+PU+runs+on+100%25+water&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a (http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:GpL2st2KiqMJ:www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Ded1uL2bt75o%26feature%3Drelated+2004+DODGE+PU+runs+on+100%25+water&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=firefox-a)
He hopefully deleted the account himself after that SoCal inventor blew
himself up while attempting to store/recover HHO. HHO is an explosive,
so you only want to keep only just enough around to run an engine
for a few seconds. And then use pop-off accumulators that can survive
an accidental HHO detonation. Also HHO has a diesel pressure of
only 400psia, maybe twice as much as shop compressed air. Above
that pressure it self detonates. Storing HHO in some device where it
will not explode, then releasing it make no sense either. What happens
when the device releases too much?
Making HHO when and where it is required makes much more sense and
is relatively easy. This is the difference between patent hype and scientific
understanding, and maybe a wake-up call for people who think that no harm
can come by putting cr*p information and personal suppositions into
patent documents.
Always behave with a scientific and engineering understanding when
it comes to building free energy devices...The life you save may end
up being your own.
:S:MarkSCoffman
If the guy posting the video of a truck running on HHO had blown himself up, he would NOT have been able to delete his account.
This is a wakeup call people and why it is critical for anyone who has a breakthrough in this technology to use multiple platforms in releasing the replication data. Not just videos.
Remember. If you invent something that will save the world from pollution and greed you will be treated like Stan Meyer and Puharich. If you release millions of gallons of raw crude oil in our oceans killing massive amounts of marine life and polluting our beaches, you will be allowed to continue to do business without even having your business license taken away.
chessnyt
Quote from: mscoffman on July 07, 2010, 03:49:53 PM
He hopefully deleted the account himself after that SoCal inventor blew
himself up while attempting to store/recover HHO.
When a person has nothing clever to write he usually starts writing bul...ts and flooding the forum with trash! Only from your first sentence is pretty much clear on which side you are! You are an obvious conspiracy puppet , a well trained dog, a brainwashed being . I almost feel pity about you! People with negative vision like you are usually having severe personal problems, and by writing trash on the web ... they compensate their emptiness !
QuoteHHO is an explosive,
so you only want to keep only just enough around to run an engine
for a few seconds.
May be your car is coming from the future, if you can go in a few seconds from New York to Miami ... mmm you may apply for a Noble prize !
QuoteAnd then use pop-off accumulators that can survive
an accidental HHO detonation.
It is easy to sit down and write ... SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT ?
QuoteAlso HHO has a diesel pressure of
only 400psia, maybe twice as much as shop compressed air.
Now that is what I call a super-duper scientific full term sentence !
"HHO has a diesel pressure of ... " --> can you show us your real life test experiment where you prove the self ignition pressure ? I bet you can't, or can you ?
"shop compressed air" -> what is this, Professor ? Is it some physical term .. may be a new science ?
QuoteStoring HHO in some device where it
will not explode, then releasing it make no sense either.
Yeaa... that is the real thing - it is absolutely the same with all the rest of the fuels like GAS, LPG, CNG, Diesel ... etc. - " STORING THEM IN SOME DEVICE (usually called a "tank") WHERE THEY WILL NOT EXPLODE AND THEN RELEASING THEM - MAKES NO SENSE ... you are absolutely right - for a dumb person wouldn't make sens even if it was as clear as the daylight !
QuoteWhat happens
when the device releases too much?
Your stupidity is just not going to over , isn't it ? You must read some literature before asking a question like that . People use CNG and LPG in there cars since long time ago ... I've never heard of any system that had released toooo much ... READ, EDUCATE, THINK, and then TALK !
QuoteMaking HHO when and where it is required makes much more sense and
is relatively easy.
It is obvious that you did not even read all my post ! The guy is making it on board ! I feel exhausted .. no more comments !
Quote
This is the difference between patent hype and scientific
understanding, and maybe a wake-up call for people who think that no harm
can come by putting cr*p information and personal suppositions into
patent documents.
Again I will repeat myself - SHOW US what you got ? Oh, you cant ! Why ... because you are too busy writing trash on FREE ENERGY forums. Any how no matter what you like it or not one day the truth will rise up and the good will win !
QuoteAlways behave with a scientific and engineering understanding when
it comes to building free energy devices...
---> "... twice as much as shop compressed air." Some of the words of our famous scientist !
QuoteThe life you save may end
up being your own.
:S:MarkSCoffman
Unfortunately no body can save you ... the clear mind and the ability tho think is something you have to acquire in your first 7 - 8 year ... later on becomes almost impossible !
Cheers to all the Free Energy Chasers
There you go - you can all watch and download the video :
http://drop.io/hcfqyti/asset/2004-dodge-pu-runs-on-100-water-mpg-mp4 (http://drop.io/hcfqyti/asset/2004-dodge-pu-runs-on-100-water-mpg-mp4)
SPREAD IT TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS !!! BE ANGRY AND FIGHT FOR THE TRUTH !!!!
Quote from: plam40 on July 08, 2010, 02:46:06 AM
When a person has nothing clever to write he usually starts writing bul...ts and flooding the forum with trash!
It is easy to sit down and write ... SHOW US WHAT YOU GOT ?
Unfortunately you are yourself one of these guys, obviously you don't realize that because of your own ignorance.
Quote from: plam40 link=topic=9405.msg248097#msg248097 date=1278522668
A week ago I was browsing youtube for the HHO term to see what's new, suddenly I found a video
Oh you found a youtube video, great. You know what? I found once a youtube video of a Perendev Motor. Get the point? So instead of accusing others of talking bull*, just do some research and investigation your own and you will find out it's not all conspiracy...
The uneducated person however will not be able to think that far, so make sure you have at least highschool knowledge. And regarding H2O as car fuel think about daily usage, the amount of km that can be done with such kind of fuel, material/electrode corrosion etc. Just think a bit more, instead of crying out loud how this is "suppressed by the bad people"
I see... you are nothing more but just another puppet from the brainwashed team ... thank you for mentioning Perendev motor, anything to say about it ?
I wander why you would sit and criticize someone that has done something good ? Why instead you don't try to make it better or even just replicate it ?
Why so much negativism ... What is p...ing you off ?
Your last comment shows me that you have absolutely no idea of anything and are even too lazy to research yourself, which makes your accusations completely hilarious. There is a verdict claiming: "if you don't know, you must believe everything"... which perfectly fits on you. Think about it and eventually you will find out that not everything is golden.
Super Nice Video & nice guy.
BUT, I see the SAME OLE PROBLEM that has been around for decades.
If he doesn't DISCLOSE a schematic & Parts Layout, what good is his video?
Just BRAGGING about what he has done with a video DOES NOT HELP THE WORLD one bit.
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He has done nothing different than any body else - he made a replication on the Meyer's cell, that is capable of producing around 20 lpm, the gas is temporary buffered in a buffer vessel under 60psi then it goes to a reducer that is absolutely the same as the one used in an LPG systems of the non injection type and that is all the story ! You do not need any plans from that guy ... the plans are all over the net ! You only need the spark inside you and the prove that it is real and working and possible !
If you failed the first few times ... don't you dare to give up ! Think of the person who invented the light bulb ... people used to say to him ... come on give up you've tried 1000 ways to get it done ... the answer was ... No ... I just found 1000 ways it can't be done ... And so today we have light bulbs !
So don't let any one tell you this can't be done ! Keep trying and find the truth by your self !
With respect to the whole thread subject, has anyone thought of this in particular?
http://www.blazelabs.com/n-aquagen.asp
I've read that if you mix this gas with air, it burns. Otherwise it's safe. I believe it'll do about the same thing as Brown's gas.
--Lee
HHO on demand is interesting if it can be an exact fuel replacement for atomized hydrocarbons. It matters little about the efficiency and closing the loop etc. If you can take a battery bank throw it in the trunk and run your car from hho nobody needs the oil companies cause we can charge our cars from the domestic grid or solar or wind or waves or whatever. You just need a way to charge your battery bank. This added to increasing the efficiency of the machine like using thermoelectric generators instead of radiators and dynamic brakes instead of friction pads and acoustic generators instead of mufflers etc the life of the batteries should be extended, At least get you a good 30mile run from a charge with ac and heat. Thermoacoustic generator can also be a thermoacoustic refidgerator.
Quote from: sparks on July 09, 2010, 11:03:41 PM
HHO on demand is interesting if it can be an exact fuel replacement for atomized hydrocarbons. It matters little about the efficiency and closing the loop etc. If you can take a battery bank throw it in the trunk and run your car from hho nobody needs the oil companies cause we can charge our cars from the domestic grid or solar or wind or waves or whatever. You just need a way to charge your battery bank. This added to increasing the efficiency of the machine like using thermoelectric generators instead of radiators and dynamic brakes instead of friction pads and acoustic generators instead of mufflers etc the life of the batteries should be extended, At least get you a good 30mile run from a charge with ac and heat. Thermoacoustic generator can also be a thermoacoustic refidgerator.
What you are doing is a missleading the public ... With other words you say - " lets not use oil, but still be dependent on some source of energy - electricity ! Who is going to invest 20000 $ for a solar system just to be able to charge his battery pack which costs another fortune - just to be able to drive some 30 miles ?
The real thing is a self ruining device that needs nothing but water !!! It is real, it has been done, it is working, it is possible. You've been shown many times the proofs ! The guy from the video just showed that , Meyer showed that, Dingel showed that .... Mythbusters tried to cover it up, but actually proved it can be done, Anton cell team is another common example !
The Little secret most people are missing is the pressure reducer from an LPG system and that there has to be some amount of HHO stored for compensating the speeds up intervals !
Regards to all of the real truth seekers !
I believe there is a way to produce a fuel like hho and it does not use an exotic free energy force but relies on kinetic energy of atoms and molecules converted into chemical potential energy as you find in Brown's gas. I am sure that the alternator on the car is supplying the power to the battery which the cells are using as a power scource. I am also sure that increased production of the cells results in an increased demand on the electrical system. As an engine is overloaded the rpm drops the alternator puts out less current and unless there is a battery or reserve scource of current the engine will stall. The battery acts as an hho storage tank if you will but it is actually an h2so4 liquid storage tank. The point I was making is that a direct fuel replacement for hydrocarbons is what is needed and quickly. That the fuel be manufactured on demand requires that the cells have the capacity to deliver peak demands even if this means getting into the battery store. Storage of gases gets into all sorts of complications whereas electrical energy storage is quite straight forward. Again I dont care if you have to add energy into the system from other scources that you can run an internal combustion engine on this fuel is an amazing discovery that can hasten in the clean fuel age.
This is great. Do you know if he intends to show plans on how he built this? Because I and every one else would sure like to build one of these. Glad the video is still around so all can see!!!
It is very obvious that the greedy oil companies do not want us to switch to other fuels. They want us to remain dependant on a fuel, that when utilized, is polluting our world, is expensive and leads to exploding refineries, leaking super tanker ships (like the Exxon Valdez) and epic environmental disasters (like the gulf disaster) in which they set new records for the damage they are able to inflict on our oceanic wildlife and tar strewn oily beaches (that used to be beautiful). If there was an award given for the greatest polluters on earth, they would surely be the recipients of the greatest polluters the world has ever seen since the beginning of human existence.
Anyone who says we can not run our vehicles on water are obviously not part of the solution. They are indeed part of the problem. If they are not paid disinformation agents of the oil industry, they most certainly should be. The video plam40 posted earlier in this thread is just additional evidence that an internal combustion engine can run off of water alone just as Stan Meyer did for four years before he was poisoned to death. But Meyer and the gentleman in the previously posted video are not the only ones to post videos on the internet of a car running on water. There are many, many more. Very few people here have even heard of Bill Williams (for example) who posted a video of his Ford pickup truck (an eight cylinder engine) running on water alone. Google Bill Williams and find out for yourselves why he quit posting ANYTHING EVER AGAIN!!!!!!
And as far as overloading the alternator goes, Meyer powered his cells directly off of an alternator that was NOT even connected to a battery. He used two alternators in his system. Even his demo cell ran off of an alternator without a battery.
I want to thank plam40 for showing us all where to download the most recent example of a car powered by HHO on demand alone. Thank you for having the balls to speak the truth in the face of complete idiots and paid disinformation agents of the oil industry spreading their propaganda in a place that people should know better. Thank you, sir. I stand completely with you.
Regards,
chessnyt
He refers to plans in the text next to the video.
http://drop.io/hcfqyti/asset/2004-dodge-pu-runs-on-100-water-mpg-mp4
But I also can not find a link to plans??
Chet
60 psi [yikes]
Quote from: plam40 on July 07, 2010, 01:11:08 PM
EVERYONE OF YOU SHOUD PAY ATTENTION TO THIS AND AT LEAST GET ANGRY !!!!
Quite pointless.
Anger interferes with effective action.
First of all, does this guy have anything over and above what's in Chapter 10?
See:
http://www.free-energy-info.co.uk/Chapter10.pdf
A major pollution problem on existing automobiles is nitrogen compounds. The nitrogen or inert gas in the combustion process is not inert at high temperatures. The fuel is burnt to raise the temperature of the air induced into the engine. The oxygen combines with hydrogen in an exothermic reaction and this thermal energy is transferred to the compressed air inside the cylinder. The nitrogen which is the inert gas of choice because it is free receives the heat and expands driving the cylinder. Unfortunately nitrogen is not totally inert at high temperatures and pressures and various nitrogen oxygen compounds are formed. Any engine with air going in the air filter is going to have these pollutants to deal with coming out of the tailpipe. The internal combustion engine needs to die. It is close to 200 years and the machine is still doing the same old inefficient conversionn of chemical potential energy into kinetic energy. We would be better off drivinng steam driven vehicles with high efficiency propane burners than these stupid air compressors with a spark plug stuck in the cylinder.
He mentions in the video that he is using a "joe cell" which is a version of the Stan Meyers cell. The one thing I haven't seen is the actual numbers behind the electrolysis of the water. The reason this isn't main stream is because people believe that the most efficient method for electrolysis is Faraday's which consumes more energy than it would produce. Now if the "joe cell" takes less energy for electrolysis and allows you to burn the HHO for a net energy gain then that would be something. What we need is for someone to run the numbers and show that it can be done.
Once you can split and burn water for a next energy gain, you have a fuel that falls from the sky!
http://www.refresheverything.com/truegreensolutions
Interesting video. Now when it comes to just how Stanley A. Meyer ran his dune buggy on just 7L/min hho production I have found just where the extra energy to do such a thing is coming from.
First this requires you to throw out all you know about the 1860s Faraday electrolysis for the system is just different like trying to compare apples to oranges other than they both come from a tree they really don't compare together in color, taste, texture, and many more differences.
So how Stanley Meyer ran his car on only 7L/min is by using more than one form of energy. The different forms of energy Meyer used can be found here: http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showpost.php?p=994&postcount=1
http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showpost.php?p=995&postcount=2
and if you want to read through the whole thread: http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/showthread.php?t=174
Now this is assuming you just read at least the first two I just posted. You can clearly see that using radiant energy to pump the oxygen atoms to the fourth energy level just like in any laser it is a charge pump. This effectively lowers the energy of activation for the electric energy side to strip the electrons away from the atoms. Now the trick is to get these unstable gases into the combustion chamber remaining in an unstable state. This is where the electron extraction circuit come in to give the freshly striped electrons a path to follow that leads away from the combustion chamber. Then you will want to isolate the intake system electrically from the head and put the EEC's positive voltage to it. This makes sure any free electrons present in the system are taken away from the system prior to entering the combustion chamber, and it also will repel the ions created missing those electrons. When Meyer speaks of a resonant chamber he is not always talking about a electrical resonating system as the gas processor is a radiant resonate cavity focused on what ever atom or atoms you wish to add in laser energy to at the correct wavelengths of course which is the resonance part of it for the light will only interact with matter at the resonate frequencies of light for the atoms or molecules you wish to have the laser energy interact with. Now the chemical side of this is when the atoms go to form the water molecule all the electrons must be present before the molecules are formed according to the laws of conservation of mass and the law of conservation of energy says that the energy evolved in such a reaction must equal the energy put into the system to strip the electrons from the atoms to begin with. This energy comes from the nucleus of the hydrogen atoms and creates the missing electrons prior to the formation of the water molecules and in doing so evolve the same amount of energy it took to strip the electrons off in the first place therefore energy is conserved.
Now that I have shown you just how Stanley Meyer did what he did with science will you please vote for me on the Pepsi Refresh Project so that I can come in the top ten at the end of the month? Thanks for your support http://www.refresheverything.com/wid...b9b9e205&w=300 http://www.refresheverything.com/truegreensolutions
Thank big time,
h2opower.
There are some new videos from these guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax6U0xXMwBk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V61ZgCKY_Mk&feature=channel
I'm sorry to say you all missed the three tube tuning videos that were quite impressive. They were all three removed so you will not be able to view them any longer.
Quote from: chessnyt on September 18, 2010, 12:13:37 PM
There are some new videos from these guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax6U0xXMwBk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V61ZgCKY_Mk&feature=channel
I'm sorry to say you all missed the three tube tuning videos that were quite impressive. They were all three removed so you will not be able to view them any longer.
Honestly,
Why the hell do people post youtube videos like that?!!! It's nothing but blaaahh blahhhhh BLAAAAAAHHHHH. Poorly produced, saying nothing and WAFFLING, wasting my time waiting for something realistic. For heavens sakes...if you have something to say...SAY IT!!! dont just waffle and blather about humanity for 7 minutes wasting my valuable time and bandwidth!
I understand that people are excited about what they are doing and some folk are poor enuciators who can't string a decent sentence together, however they all have to realise this simple one fact....CORPPORATE ENTITIES and this world as it stands dont care for useless blather and time wasting. Spit it out and get to the point or go away!
Electric Goose
Quote from: ElectricGoose on September 18, 2010, 12:53:46 PM
Honestly,
Why the hell do people post youtube videos like that?!!! It's nothing but blaaahh blahhhhh BLAAAAAAHHHHH. Poorly produced, saying nothing and WAFFLING, wasting my time waiting for something realistic. For heavens sakes...if you have something to say...SAY IT!!! dont just waffle and blather about humanity for 7 minutes wasting my valuable time and bandwidth!
I understand that people are excited about what they are doing and some folk are poor enuciators who can't string a decent sentence together, however they all have to realise this simple one fact....CORPPORATE ENTITIES and this world as it stands dont care for useless blather and time wasting. Spit it out and get to the point or go away!
Electric Goose
The videos are just ways to draw attention to their work, however if they are “wasting your bandwidth†then maybe it is you who should go away. Why even waste your time responding! Honestly! You are just as worthless as the videos you claim are.
The most intelligent thing that Future Energy Concepts has done is not just their videos. The most prudent thing they have done so far is to send their technology out to multiple capable replicators. After all, the validity of this technological advance can only be settled by replication. That is the scientific approach to validity.
Loner
Is running on HHo so novel?
Running on HHO and spending more money [energy] than a gasoline system
to do it is one thing ,but running on HHO like anton is doing is like running for free!
Are you saying you have a system that would self run and nobody cared?
Chet
Quote from: ElectricGoose on September 18, 2010, 12:53:46 PM
Honestly,
Why the hell do people post youtube videos like that?!!! It's nothing but blaaahh blahhhhh BLAAAAAAHHHHH. Poorly produced, saying nothing and WAFFLING, wasting my time waiting for something realistic. For heavens sakes...if you have something to say...SAY IT!!! dont just waffle and blather about humanity for 7 minutes wasting my valuable time and bandwidth!
I understand that people are excited about what they are doing and some folk are poor enuciators who can't string a decent sentence together, however they all have to realise this simple one fact....CORPPORATE ENTITIES and this world as it stands dont care for useless blather and time wasting. Spit it out and get to the point or go away!
Electric Goose
Maybe you should be taking your own advice....Don't go away mad...just go away.
J.
Quote from: truthbeknown on September 18, 2010, 03:54:29 PM
Maybe you should be taking your own advice....Don't go away mad...just go away.
J.
in your own words...
Quote from: truthbeknown on September 06, 2010, 03:18:28 AM
Why are you being so cruel?
:o
J.
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on September 18, 2010, 04:20:21 PM
in your own words...
Thats not being cruel. Read it...
Mint? Just keep reading...I know you will find it..
J.
Quote from: truthbeknown on September 18, 2010, 04:27:17 PM
Thats not being cruel. Read it
J.
i did read it... ::) you are telling him to go away, which is far more cruel than what rosemary did to elicit that response from you...
so clever with the mint edit. ::) what is the matter? can't think of anything original?
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on September 18, 2010, 04:29:24 PM
i did read it... ::) you are telling him to go away, which is far more cruel than what rosemary did to elicit that response from you...
Who says? Oh you say? Well Golly Jeepers...I guess we better bow down to what WilbyInebriated says and not what Rosemary replied saying she is exercising her "Freedom of Expression." But thats on another thread.
J.
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Quote from: truthbeknown on September 18, 2010, 04:34:00 PM
Who says? Oh you say? Well Golly Jeepers...I guess we better bow down to what WilbyInebriated says and not what Rosemary replied saying she is exercising her "Freedom of Expression." But thats on another thread.
J.
and who says what rosemary said was cruel? oh you say? well golly jeepers!!! i guess we better bow down to your subjective norm... ::)
you don't get it do you? ::) you were telling this guy to take his own advice, and likewise, i was telling you (by using your own words) to take your own advice. but then again, that would require some integrity on your part wouldn't it?
here is some more of your hypocritical advice that you should take:
Quote from: truthbeknown on September 16, 2010, 05:57:35 PM
Why do you post such things? Its like you are trying to start an argument with someone....
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on September 18, 2010, 04:41:19 PM
and who says what rosemary said was cruel? oh you say? well golly jeepers!!! i guess we better bow down to your subjective norm... ::)
you don't get it do you? ::) you were telling this guy to take his own advice, and likewise, i was telling you (by using your own words) to take your own advice. but then again, that would require some integrity on your part wouldn't it?
Oh so I guess it doesn't bother you that the Troll picture was you? LOL
I was just trying to save you some embarrassment but now you drew attention to it. And Electric Goose...he has some issues..he will learn..maybe from you?
Mint?
J.
Wilby...interesting edit on your reply post #32...but ya know...it takes TWO to start an argument and you started the argument with your reply post to my first one with your #27 post. Any whooo I'm am just exercising my freedom of expression arn't YOU?
cough syrup?
J.
Quote from: truthbeknown on September 18, 2010, 04:49:06 PM
Oh so I guess it doesn't bother you that the Troll picture was you? LOL
I was just trying to save you some embarrassment but now you drew attention to it. And Electric Goose...he has some issues..he will learn..maybe from you?
Mint?
J.
why would it bother me? it wasn't me, ask rosemary, she will clear that up for you.
you have some issues... maybe goose will learn from me, but certainly not from you.
mint? or would you like an original thought of your own instead?
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on September 18, 2010, 04:50:36 PM
why would it bother me? it wasn't me, ask rosemary, she will clear that up for you.
you have some issues... maybe goose will learn from me, but certainly not from you.
mint? or would you like an original thought of your own instead?
Actually, you should be the one clearing it up with Rosemary..if it doesn't bother you then it doesn't bother me. I'm sure you will enjoy some GooseFeathers...more power to you.
Cough syrup?
J. ;)
Why all the drama here
I think this thread has some merit and this whole page is trash.
Mags
Quote from: chessnyt on September 18, 2010, 01:25:50 PM
The videos are just ways to draw attention to their work, however if they are “wasting your bandwidth†then maybe it is you who should go away. Why even waste your time responding! Honestly! You are just as worthless as the videos you claim are.
The most intelligent thing that Future Energy Concepts has done is not just their videos. The most prudent thing they have done so far is to send their technology out to multiple capable replicators. After all, the validity of this technological advance can only be settled by replication. That is the scientific approach to validity.
RED ALERT**** To Wilby....you better message this person and let them know they are being cruel....hurry...time is of the essence here...our posts are getting buried. :o
J.
Quote from: Magluvin on September 18, 2010, 05:08:13 PM
Why all the drama here
I think this thread has some merit and this whole page is trash.
Mags
I do apologise to you Mags, you are right and I will stop.
J.
After reading the thread here, I can offer some quality to the subject.
My great grand father had a device that was 2 electric motors hooked at the shaft. My grandfather told me of this many times, as he was young then and did not understand the importance of his fathers work as it was just one of dads crazy inventions. But you gave the shaft a spin by hand and there it went, faster and faster, all on its own.
The motors were both hooked up to a box with a switch to shut it down , on and off.
But back in the 1910s the oil companies and gov threatened him about showing the device. Back then. Imagine now. so I fully believe in suppression. It is all around us.
In the Energy Amplification thread, I pose a simple LRC circuit that Tito claims to use, and it produces more out than in. Every time, different configurations, it works on the circuit simulator. I believe Teets. And Tesla.
Tiny caps can influence a tremendous amount of amplified energy. It is not a conventional amplification as we would assume, it is like the red and blue crystals from the Land Of The Lost kind of amplification. Its there, just most dont get it when just thinking about it, they just see a diminishing wave form and it could not possibly hold or produce more energy out than in. Well have you tried it? Anyone? Im sure the ones that have, in majority, will not confess. And I get it as to why not.
Me, I dont care , I spill it on the plate, give give, give , and what I will receive for it, be it bad or good, thats what I get. I did good. That all that matters. And I can live or die with that.
LRC circuits are published every where in conventional electronics books and lit. It is so basic and common yet trying to pull power from it in any conventional way will deter a lot of folks. The output is in the R of the LRC. Or the L can be a transformer. But the secondary should not be treated as a normal output either. You cannot just rectify the power you are tryin to extract in a conventional way. Like Tito says, try a weird and different way. Unconventional!.
Get creative with your knowledge! It is art work! What happens if you connect the red crystal with the blue crystal? I dont know. It does not say in the book to do it that way. hmmmm too much conventionalism.
The Magnetrolysis is something most here should be on like flies on %$@#. I have not even accomplished it yet and the reality from the explanation is a beautiful thing, its just the right ingredients. Im working on it.
Any way, lets just let these guys have their discussion. They have every right.
Mags
“Adam W., who also lives in Prescott, has agreed to serve as a project coordinator. His first task will be to replicate the technology himself. He was hoping to meet with Freddy today to get some parts and instruction, but apparently Freddy wasn't feel up to it.
James Sharp is going to be helping with Freddy's website, and he's going to help coordinate the open source project. He travels regularly between California and Prescott, AZ; which spurred him to get into HHO technology a couple of years ago, by which he was able to improve his mileage. Professionally, he has experience in corporate communications, especially in making presentations, including 3-D animations and other multimedia.
Freddy is also grateful to have the assistance of Square1, which we featured in our news last week. They have donated laboratory space, instrumentation, and a special controller being fine-tuned for this application. "Hopefully working together we'll have something that works extremely well."
Freddy seems undeterred from some underhanded things that have been going on, including possible poisoning being behind his illness, having been shot at once in the last two weeks, and a bullet having pierced the propane tank at his house (which gratefully was empty). The ATF audit of his shop ended well, thanks to his good documentation.â€
The above quote is from http://pesn.com/2010/09/02/9501697_Freddy_prototype_7_update_lab_tour/
I’m glad to see so many people pitching in to help Fred and Dave of Future Energy Concepts Inc :)
Loner,
thanks Bud , You really are a cool fellah, and while you may be feeling
that your efforts where not recognized ,I don't believe that!
You inspire people !
Just the fact that a man with your skills and knowledge is "Here",
is a huge inspiration !
Add to that, you "share" with the rest of us your countless hours of efforts !
Buddy ,This world needs more men like you!!
Thanks
Chet
PS
I drove by Stafford springs motor speedway the other day,[couple miles from my new home]
The THUNDER coming off the pavement sent chills !!
I thought of you "tuning" the race car!
Cool stuff!
Hopefully you'll be tuning "coils" on the electric race car soon!
Loner,
Its the noise I love!,Just something about the"thunder"of a v8,real goose bump stuff!
If you come this way,it would be great to shake your hand.[and see the pits]:}.
Chet
Quote from: Loner on September 18, 2010, 11:06:41 PM
Ramset, sure, but that's unimportant. I'll not say more as I tried before, on this forum, and got nowhere. My operation was "Lucky" and not easily re-producable, so, technically, it "Never existed", as far as "current information that is useful" goes. This thread has more and better info anyway, so if true HHO operation is what you want, this is a good place to "Start".
Honestly, my troubles outnumbered my successes, by a long shot. Also, there is a LOT to think about in "Real World" HHO gas use. If pure water is used, and you are in a freezing climate, and I could go ON and ON. One backfire, or a slightly burnt intake valve, and BANG, no more intake, assuming you had bubblers to prevent total destruction. I have very little recorded data, much less than people like H2OPOWER, and people right in this thread, so just ignore my sour grapes, and realize, the tech is out there, exposed, and ready to be made, if you have the will to put up with all that comes with it, in the final stages. I don't have that anymore. I'm sure no one ever even viewed my posted pics of the plate electrolyser, with the sealed and immersed coils at the ends, with a third around the plates for magnetic assist. Maybe the added interest of "Conspiracy" will make people look harder, as that pic of mine is around a year old now. I don't think it's as hard as it's made out to be, but what do I know....
This may date me a little, but think back to Sargent Shultz on the TV show Hogans Heros. "I Know Nothing. NOTHING!"
In reality, the H2O guy mentioned above really has a good handle on it, but not on the "Magnetic" aspect. I wonder if both "radiant" charge and this process, added with a little Boyce/Meyer HHO gen, might beat them all out?
It would be great if you could get together with Fred at FEC as this could only better the technology. Your work is brilliant!
Those were GEET type reactors (free open source plans on web). Check out the half baked thread on there thermo dynamic magnetic digesters (fluids mostly). They can refine common carbon bearing fluids into hydrogen/oxy gases. It uses magnetics, heat, pressure, vortex to fracture fluids. So this is not DARK magic but it is proven an applied science. Until recent I had never heard of this supressed technology. Their up and running and their plans are free for personal use. Ask France and Aussie governments (who use this technology) if it works, or just check out the websites proofs.
It took over 100 years for the world to gain her energy independence but it is finally here!!!! I’m all over this e-book like a cheap suit on a tramp. I have the stainless steel seamless tubes, the ¼†thick cast acrylic reactor housing/tube and the gaskets. It’s FINE to meet you energy FREE PEOPLE!!! At last!!!! Overunity in an open source e-book!!!
OH
MY
GOD!!!!!
"Thank you all for hanging in there! We are waiting for a second replication to verify content on our instructional ebook. In a couple of weeks the plans should be avaliable at PESN for free with an optional very detailed ebook containing videos of replication, high quality pictures, a source for complete kit, and a bunch of additional information. Thank you all again for your prayers and support----even the nay sayers." -- Fred Wells (Future Energy Concepts)
Did I mention water? And free? (while supplies last. Not valid with coupon or in connection with any other special discount or offer. Void where prohibited by law. Some contestants will not win. Strike that last term and condition)
Quote from: chessnyt on September 24, 2010, 07:42:30 PM
It took over 100 years for the world to gain her energy independence but it is finally here!!!! I’m all over this e-book like a cheap suit on a tramp. I have the stainless steel seamless tubes, the ¼†thick cast acrylic reactor housing/tube and the gaskets. It’s FINE to meet you energy FREE PEOPLE!!! At last!!!! Overunity in an open source e-book!!!
OH
MY
GOD!!!!!
"Thank you all for hanging in there! We are waiting for a second replication to verify content on our instructional ebook. In a couple of weeks the plans should be avaliable at PESN for free with an optional very detailed ebook containing videos of replication, high quality pictures, a source for complete kit, and a bunch of additional information. Thank you all again for your prayers and support----even the nay sayers." -- Fred Wells (Future Energy Concepts)
Did I mention water? And free? (while supplies last. Not valid with coupon or in connection with any other special discount or offer. Void where prohibited by law. Some contestants will not win. Strike that last term and condition)
Now Stanley Meyer's technology has finally been verified. I wish Stan would have released it. I believe he would still be alive today if he had released specific details about his demo cell and dune buggy. Finally the fraud label may be removed from this technology and its superiority over Faraday electrolysis will be known at last.
R.I.P. Stanley Meyer.
You can not be legitimately free until you are energy independent. We are free at last. Finally an open source project that actually works and can power an eight cylinder vehicle.
As I said before; the scientific approach to validity is replication. Now that the technology has been successfully replicated, thousands of people from many different forums all over the world will be building these devices to run automobiles, houses, ships and industrial factories. The cost of doing business will become more affordable leading to industry growth, job growth and relief for the impoverished people of third world countries where sufficient energy is considered a luxury.
No more Gulf of Mexico disasters and finally our children will be able to play on white sandy beaches again without the threat of contamination from crude oil and its deadly benzene companion. I just hope that the damage done to our environment at present is not irreversible.
I always knew that Stan Meyer had done what he had advertised he had accomplished. WorldOrder on this very forum tried to convince people just recently that Meyer’s technology was for real only to be scorned into abandoning this site as his claims were rejected in similar fashion to Meyer himself. Now the world will finally acknowledge water as a fuel source just as Meyer had professed all along.
Shame to you who ridiculed Meyer and others that were able to replicate his technology!
Initially, I predict that there will be a world wide mainstream media blackout concerning this discovery. After thousand s of additional successful replications, the technology will no longer be able to be ignored and it will ultimately find acceptance in mainstream society. I can’t wait to see the reaction of the modern scientific establishment/community.
Let the energy revolution begin.
Great then can you all put in the working links for all the build information and electronics so we can also build them?
Quote from: Hope on September 25, 2010, 11:56:36 AM
Great then can you all put in the working links for all the build information and electronics so we can also build them?
Most definitely. It will be my pleasure. I will not only provide the working links for the replication build here but I will also provide sources for the materials. Believe it or not, some people may find it difficult to even locate a vender that sells seamless stainless steel tubes/pipes.
There are so many people from so many forums who are doing this build that it really isn’t funny. Why not here? I can’t think of a reason this forum should be left out.
Chessnyt
Quote:
I can’t think of a reason this forum should be left out.
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Thanks Bud! I was starting to feel left out!!
Looking forward to whatever you can supply!
Chet
The four sites given below are from the same company that drove a 2004 Dodge eight cylinder pickup solely on hydroxy gas. Believe it or not, their prototype cell was producing 55 LPM making it an obvious replacement fuel source for any four stroke internal combustion engine. The implications are enormous.
The last two addresses are specific web pages that have been set up for the open source replication of their prototype device. They have decided to release the secrets behind their technology in the interest of keeping themselves alive. I am not going to go into the underhanded things they have had to endure in the past two months but I think it is suffice to say that what happened to Stan Meyer almost happened to them as well.
Their device has been successfully replicated by an independent lab and there is one more independent replication that is still in progress and should be finished within ten days from now. As soon as this last independent replication has been deemed successful, the replication instructions along with instructional videos and a parts list will be released to the public.
http://www.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/
http://www.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/news
http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/6
http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/
Chessnyt
You are a man of your word!
Hopefully this will come to pass, there are a lot of sceptics trying to debunk these guys.
The good news is the sceptics are saying its impossible.and would be overunity!
"Wouldn't that be special!!" :}
Chet
I am very upset today. I am very angry to see what greedy people are resorting to. They (the oil barons) are bent on destroying not only our environment, not only their own children, our children, us, but they are trying to destroy anyone who tries to stop them from making sure our planet is doomed. We must stand against them no matter their size, their power, their might; for mightier is God than he who is in the world. I detest bullies. Nothing disturbs me more than bullies and I will not cower or be intimidated by bullies and thugs even if they wear the seal of my own government.
To the bullies: Let me know where we can meet alone, and I’ll be there. You can private message me if you are too ashamed, cowardly or afraid to boldly reply out in the open. We need to talk and I’m not afraid of you or any bully for that matter. Try to be a man. I’ll be waiting. You have my word on that.
Here are the latest videos and what has just transpired:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cPCjjnCqZs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VqBDGpi5rUU
Very well said, Loner. I am going to be one of the replicating teams involved in this next round of replicators. The technology has already been spread throughout Asia, Europe and the Americas.
test
I know that magnets can assist an electric current in the breaking down of water into H2 and O2.It means one gas is attracted to a magnetic field and the other gas is repelled by a magnetic field.So a lesser amount of current is needed with a magnetic field than without a magnetic field.I have often wondered if the worlds strongest magnet on its own could tear water apart?
I guess magnetic pulsing could be the answer?Like the circuit that crushes a regular sized coin down to a smaller size version of itself?
I have seen a copy of that circuit before.triffid
To magluving,I met a man in 1979, Who claimed the same thing as your great grandfather.He told me in his younger days that he had hooked up a generator to an electric motor and created enoungh extra electricity to run a trainset.Because he was not allowed to plug the the trainset into the wall.I believe he was adopted.No telling how many times someone came up with this and was told to shut up Just like your great granddad because you said
that back in the 1910s the oil companies and gov threatened him about showing the device. Back then. Imagine now. so I fully believe in suppression. It is all around us.
However there is a guy here on overunity that uses electric power from solar cells to turn a generator with an electric motor.To help creat 120 volt AC
I believe his name is Tommey Reid.Triffid
I also knew of a guy who was working on a hydrogen powered car who received threatening letters in the mail without a return address that threatened the lives of his family members.So he stopped working on the car.This was in oklahoma about 1986 when I met him so he had stopped a few years before.triffid
Sorry I just looked up his name here on overunity.Its tommey reed who did the solar power to generator thing and his u-tube accounts are closed.So no videos clips of him anymore for whatever reason.triffid
Suppression is a mere means of control. In my country, the USA, the masses believe they are truly free but in reality they have been enslaved for at least the last 120 years by the fossil fuel industry. It began later in the years of the steam power by powerful coal mining companies and simply expanded with the beginning of the automobile era. They found that whoever controls the mainstream energy needs controls the people as well making money in ANY economy.
Then you have the sub-power companies that generate electricity using fossil fuels. They do not allow competition just as AT&T did not allow competition for long distance telephone communication. When AT&T’s monopoly was finally broken up, long distance rates went down instead of up. That is what competition does.
In the case of Big Oil, they all got together in the late 1800’s and early 1900’s strategize together how they could artificially drive up the price of crude oil. They found that if they could all charge the same amount by artificially setting prices high (Within .20 cents of each other) at the gas pump, this would automatically drive up crude oil prices to reflect its new value. How else do you think that gas prices at the end of 2007 dropped in the U.S. from about $5.28 to $1.87 at the gas pump in just one day. They dropped the prices because Obama threatened them with windfall profit taxes and they had just finished turning in 8 years of record profits. The same day their “Drill baby drill!!†candidate lost (John McCain) they rolled back their prices by $3.41 per gallon. This just proved how grossly we were being gouged and overcharged by the unscrupulous oil industry.
Real freedom comes with energy independence and nothing short of it.
To loner,In the early 1990's I began to see the chains.I got interested in high mileage carburetor's and ordered a book on them from Lindsey's books.It contained more than one patent.More like 8 or more.After seeing the 200 mpg carburetor suppressed and the inventor(who had sold out) given a top job in an oil filter plant and oh yeah ,he could use one himself until he died without further attacks from the oil business.I started seeing us for the sheep that we are.6 years before I bought a 50mpg car in the 1980's and because chevy stopped making them 2 years later.There were no engines for it after 10 years.I replaced four engines in that car and could not find a fifth one for less than $600 and less than 100,000 miles on it.So their boardroom decisions took my 50 mpg car away from me(1986 chevy sprint)(standard).So the control was far worse than I had thought.
In ten years I had driven it all over the eastern united states on my vacations.triffid
The new engines made for the car that replaced mine (the chevy spectrum) would not fit in the chey sprint that I had bought and paid for already.
Here is a solar powered electric car. http://www.sunnev.com/
Cost $6500 for the kit and looks like a hummer.
Quote from: triffid on October 02, 2010, 09:25:46 AM
To loner,In the early 1990's I began to see the chains.I got interested in high mileage carburetor's and ordered a book on them from Lindsey's books.It contained more than one patent.More like 8 or more.After seeing the 200 mpg carburetor suppressed and the inventor(who had sold out) given a top job in an oil filter plant and oh yeah ,he could use one himself until he died without further attacks from the oil business.I started seeing us for the sheep that we are.6 years before I bought a 50mpg car in the 1980's and because chevy stopped making them 2 years later.There were no engines for it after 10 years.I replaced four engines in that car and could not find a fifth one for less than $600 and less than 100,000 miles on it.So their boardroom decisions took my 50 mpg car away from me(1986 chevy sprint)(standard).So the control was far worse than I had thought.
In ten years I had driven it all over the eastern united states on my vacations.triffid
(To triffid and loner) I’m sure glad that at least some people are able to see the hidden chains of slavery for what they are.
I love the example that triffid gave concerning the 200 mile per gallon carburetors. Personally, I believe the “GEET†carbureted system was the biggest scare to “Big Oil†of all. They were able to suppress Paul Pantone by having him thrown in a state psychiatric hospital without his family even knowing where he was being “treated†(incarcerated) indefinitely. I’ve seen the “GEET†system first hand so I know for a fact it really performs as advertised. Paul Pantone (once he was able to get out of the state mental hospital by his family putting pressure on politicians) decided to stop doing business in the U.S. (because of the long arms of Big Oil) and he now offers “GEET†systems and technical schools in Europe for those interested in building or repairing his products. Paul has a VERY large following (yes he and “GEET†are very popular) with European farmers who are saving unprecedented amounts of fuel.
Why did Pantone’s system scare them more than any other carbureted system? I can tell you exactly why. Paul Pantone’s “GEET†system will run on RAW CRUDE OIL. That is, it is able to run an internal combustion engine with UNREFINED crude oil. Think about that for a moment. Here in the U.S., we import a majority of our crude oil from other oil producing countries. If ANY car manufacturer here were to strike a deal with Paul Pantone, what would we need the huge American Oil Companies for? We in fact would not. We would then be able to deal directly with foreign crude oil producing countries completely eliminating the middle man. After all, there’s no need for refineries if the automobile is able to run on raw crude oil and foreign oil companies have and sell more of it than American oil companies do making their prices much more affordable.
Trif,
Takin a road trip myself ,just to pick up a half dozen of
those 50 mpg Vw diesels![I'm sure you could squeeze one into your old chevy:}!
Any how,
@ all, If you aren't watching this, you should be!
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6431-none-electrolytic-splitting-h2o-6.html
Chet
PS
And of course our friend Mags has something "Cornered"
over here!
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6763.new
Quote from: triffid on October 01, 2010, 10:26:26 AM
Sorry I just looked up his name here on overunity.Its tommey reed who did the solar power to generator thing and his u-tube accounts are closed.So no videos clips of him anymore for whatever reason.triffid
Tommey Reed: overunity now 2
that's what he says in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISB4WaRPrSc
...dunno'
Quote from: plam40 on July 07, 2010, 01:11:08 PM
A week ago I was browsing youtube for the HHO term to see what's new, suddenly I found a video called : " 2004 DODGE PU RUNS ON 100% WATER.mpg " for a good reason I make a local copy of every video that is showing some progress on HHO mater! Well in two words on the clip there is a guy that used to have an account on YouTube by the name DoomTracker1. He shows his pickup and an HHO system he built, one of the interesting things is his system buffers HHO gas to around 60psi, and then he runs his truck on HHO only ... He also explains that the production is enough to run on road but when climbing a hill it is not enough and the buffer runs out of HHO. Any how only 3 days after the video was uploaded - YouTube not only deleted the video but also closed the whole account of Doomtracker1 ! I will soon upload the video in another website and you will be able to see ! EVERYONE OF YOU SHOUD PAY ATTENTION TO THIS AND AT LEAST GET ANGRY !!!!
Here is a link to the google cache of the video : ................................................
Ok,
I read through the five pages of this thread and so where do these guys stand now. I found a Fast Freddy's update and he's gone religious (that's not bad but .... ? ? ? ?). And are you absolutely sure that YouTube did the deleting? I mean does YouTube actually announce that IT deleted it? I understand about violating the terms of service and all, but I don't think YouTube gives details or just shuts someone down. There are many more controversial topics than FE and OU ... after all, it's impossible ... right? Ha!
Greg
To chess,I am aware of the geet system.Knowing that the inventor is in europe now makes me more certain that this oil company strangle hold will end someday sooner than we thought.What I recently learned is that they generate outright lies to control your behavior along with laws and regulations.triffid
Unfortunately I sold my 50mpg chevy back in 1996 to a mechanic friend who could rebuild that last engine.He had the skills but I didn't.I am glad someone found tommey reed again.I think u-tube only said the account was closed.
http://www.youtube.com/index?ytsession=QLxuynrtjzdJEvnR2haXoteMjCSGt1E-7JGwQzbkaVeBBX3SVjHDh0fT3HCKrw0WlUVAoXPgG_GogsLkfsuq9bHsnLbNGkk2U2D_uMke5rLgwoJ_C8PW2HZ8ywtyJwVU3xEqxbTu4uPxCkxiu_KUYIBb8oO5akw8-2gN0aLShYcYHjJyc-70BFQgMk-uFdqqT61RAim8CxI2v_6zD_5QKrC31nj4gmkOE1lKhgXvIFBrFsaxBk-7FQ4YSfVS0hjn7_xTK0mQegv1qpcZqroNxA#play/all/uploads-all/1/QdjIifilrkk
this is the tommey reed clip.It simply says account is closed.
Quote from: gmeast on October 03, 2010, 07:44:49 PM
Ok,
I read through the five pages of this thread and so where do these guys stand now. I found a Fast Freddy's update and he's gone religious (that's not bad but .... ? ? ? ?). And are you absolutely sure that YouTube did the deleting? I mean does YouTube actually announce that IT deleted it? I understand about violating the terms of service and all, but I don't think YouTube gives details or just shuts someone down. There are many more controversial topics than FE and OU ... after all, it's impossible ... right? Ha!
Greg
I don’t think that the deletion of a YouTube account is really a big deal. I believe the bigger issues would be having your home’s outside propane storage tank pierced by a bullet, being shot at in public, suffer a mysterious stomach ailment that nearly takes your life and have poisonous rattle snakes planted in a car that your wife drives because they obviously know by now that he is willing to risk his own life. Now they are trying to show him that he is risking his family’s life and there is no way that he can properly protect everyone.
So in light of the serious attempts that have been made to take more than one person’s life here, I would not consider the YouTube account tampering incident very serious whether it is true or not.
And to triffid; I would have to agree with you about an end in sight to the oil industry as we now know it. They are without a doubt a deeply entrenched power base that is not going to go quietly. I would even go one step further to assert that they also control to a large extent the U.S. government. I believe they have gotten to the point where they now regulate the government that regulates them.
Hydrogen-on-demand via frequency resonance will eventually topple the oil cartels because of the fact that these inventors are giving away the secrets to the core of their technology publicly via the internet. The videos they are showing on YouTube may be nice, but that is not what is going to destroy “Big Oilâ€. It’s the e-books and the replications that will deal the fatal blow. I’ve already said this before. The validity of this technological advance can only be settled by replication. That is the scientific approach to validity.
Think of this new discovery in terms of a highly contagious virus. Once a highly contagious virus spreads through exposure to outside host subjects, it becomes an epidemic. This new technology is already in too many hands to be contained or suppressed. Even if the guys from Prescott were bought out tomorrow, the technology will live on. When it’s released on a mass scale, it will become too large to ignore and it will find acceptance in mainstream society. It really has no downsides. Only huge advantages compared to what we use now which are petroleum based fuels.
It’s like nuclear energy. Once the genie was out of the bottle, it became impossible to force it back into its bottle. Even our enemies were able to obtain it and nuclear technology is far more difficult to replicate than this new hydrogen-on-demand technology is.
Some time ago I was trying to duplicate the Paulo device for using high frequency (audiofreqs) current to split water into hydrogen and oxygen.But as I increased the freq the resistance in the cell increased also.I ran my experiment for months(about six altogether).I could get very fine bubbles at zero volts.But my equipment did not include a constant voltage ,variable freq power supply.So I stopped my experiments at that point.I did theorize that the audio outputs from every car radio on the planet might do the trick.I have yet to test that theory.triffid
According to ancient Masonic folklore, the early Masons served as protectors of the key New Testament Gospel scriptures (ancient Biblical writings) by hiding the scrolls in Mason built brick walls. This supposedly occurred during the era of the great persecution of the early Christian Church in which the governments at this particular time were not only massacring Christians worldwide, but they were also destroying copies of any of their literature along with them. They sought to erase any evidence of the Christian Church to wipe it out entirely.
This is supposedly why the Masonic Temples are so secretive and clandestine in nature. It is through this secretive mode of operation that the Mason’s were able to preserve the sacred Holy canonized scriptures from extinction.
Whether it is true or not isn’t really relevant here. Aside from being a very interesting possible piece of ancient history, it serves as a well engineered strategy that not only enables but also insures that the technology will not be obstructed or completely wiped out by vested interests.
In similar fashion, Fred Wells has done something very ingenious with his technology. He has been secretly distributing it to various people all over the world while the two high profile replications of his work go on simultaneously. I must admit, this is almost as clever as the technology he has managed to put a nice polish on.
I think it’s quite obvious that for the inventor (Fred Wells of Future Energy Concepts), it’s certainly not about money anymore. It’s about the survival of mankind. Just as Meyer proved, no one person can cash in and control this technology. It’s too easy to stop one individual who keeps the contents of “the little black box†hidden from the public like Meyer did. Nobody gets the gold (or gets to market) by keeping the key aspects of the technology secret. Finally we are all on the same page with respect to holding back. You are either bought out or taken out trying to go it alone. Take your pick.
Further attempts to harm the inventor or anyone connected with him is futile at this point and is simply going to result in more publicity and draw more attention to the technology that will no doubt replace all fossil fuels including coal. This would be publicity that you would have to spend millions of dollars to equal.
Here’s a link to the latest video just released today by Future Energy Concepts which showcases the newest prototype reactor chamber after being machined in the gunsmith’s machine shop.
Introducing “The Peace Maker†by your friends at Future Energy Concepts:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LH-VQ3RGydI
The replication of this overunity technology is now beginning. The specific parts list along with proper dimensions are being released at the following site:
http://groups.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/documentation/node/9
This is the first of its kind available to the public free of charge. If you can find other mass replications of other overunity devices, you should jump on them. Otherwise, here’s the first one I’ve seen. Also keep in mind that it is replication of this technology that will bring validation to it. Happy building.
Quote from: Loner on October 18, 2010, 03:06:10 AM
I am watching too! I've been waiting, but I'm very curious about electrical specs of drive ckts. I'm hoping that becomes available soon, as well.
I'll admit, knowledge from the videos, etc., has enabled me to actually start to understand how the setup I got "Lucky" with actually worked.
Thanks for the post, as it let me keep up with the new docs.
You’re welcome. I’m having a lot of fun with this build. There are many people who are replicating this hydrogen-on-demand system and scaling it up. I am only running a small 4 stroke ICE with this cell. To each his own.
I’m trying to stay on top of this project because after there have been multiple successful replications reported, suppression may set in. It is VERY important that you record all the information they are releasing as it may become unavailable later on.
TO EVERYONE WHO HAS DECIDED TO BUILD THIS MEYER-LIKE SYSTEM:
Please don’t forget to report ALL successful replications so we can further document and validate this technology. There are some of us who are volunteering our personal time (for free) later on to help those who are having any difficulties.
Will there be a system that can be used to fuel a home furnace? I am following along but this tech is way over my head. Perhaps one of you guys can offer a kit with everything and instructions to put together.
Mark
Quote from: Mark69 on October 19, 2010, 07:19:31 PM
Will there be a system that can be used to fuel a home furnace? I am following along but this tech is way over my head. Perhaps one of you guys can offer a kit with everything and instructions to put together.
Mark
My quick answer to you about the furnace question is yes. A furnace, unlike an internal combustion engine, can not generate electricity unless of course you use the flame/burner to boil water and run a steam engine and divert the excess heat to a heat exchanger coupled with a circulation fan.
Minus the boiler and the steam engine, it will easily heat a home with minimal current flow thus using minimal kilowatts (very economical and cost effective energy consumption). If you are not very familiar with a Meyer-like electrolysis fuel cell, just follow this following link below to understand it a lot clearer. The following video is an example in real time (proof of concept) of how this system performs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iaAAdeqSMFE
The above video was released by the same company that powered the 2004 Dodge eight cylinder pickup truck.
Yes thanks Chessny, I didn't know it can make it own electricity as well. Then also to send the gas to the furnace and burn that from a thermostat setting; which will be able to turn it on and off. That is what I am looking to do.
Mark
Loner,
I don't believe the really important info on "How They Do It"
Ie, The driving circuit "fine details" has been released.
just reference to a PWM ,but nothing specific enough to reproduce .
Please if anyone has heard otherwise ,
Correct me!
thanks,
Chet
From Energetic today,
adam_mizer
Member Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 36
Freddys cell
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Here's a nice video Freddy made the other day, worth watching.
It appears Adam and Jim came by with a single tube set Adam is working on.
An acoustically resonant tube-set (1 pair), the MX068 PWM modified for 14.7hz, DMM connected in series to battery post reading amperage, a 4 gallon bucket of water and 2 teaspoons of KOH.
Watch it as it produces its own power after the threashold was reached then backed off PWM current!
Threshold 3 amp then back off to .025 (25milli-amp power running PWM board).
Truelly Amazing. (My jaw dropped as here is something that appears as a gift).
Last week I just had to visit Fred and his wife. Real people with heart's of gold. God bless!
I enjoyed my visit, talked, checked out the shop, helped out a little - yada yada.
YouTube - FutureEnergyConcepts's Channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/FutureEnergyConcepts#p/u/3/iaAAdeqSMFE
see post 171 and 172 over here.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6235-future-energy-hydroxy-cell-6.html#post111149
Quote from: Mark69 on October 20, 2010, 12:29:23 AM
Yes thanks Chessny, I didn't know it can make it own electricity as well. Then also to send the gas to the furnace and burn that from a thermostat setting; which will be able to turn it on and off. That is what I am looking to do.
Mark
You are very welcome. It could become a self runner without an engine as long as you are able to harvest (harness) the self generated current in the water bath.
In the setup you see demonstrated in the video, there is a minute amount of current being consumed. The amperage being consumed to sustain the anomaly demonstrated is 0.025 amps.
My ultimate plans are to fuel an eight cylinder engine which will turn a generator to produce single phase 240VAC @ 60 Hz. The slight twist is when I circulate the water through the engine block, I will pass the water through an external heat exchanger instead of a typical radiator in order to use this waste heat to heat my home’s modified hot water heater. I will utilize the exhaust heat in a like manner.
Once you are generating your electricity for free, then electric heaters can be used. Who cares if they are inefficient or not. The electricity is free.
Quote from: ramset on October 20, 2010, 07:08:36 PM
From Energetic today,
adam_mizer
Member Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 36
Freddys cell
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Here's a nice video Freddy made the other day, worth watching.
It appears Adam and Jim came by with a single tube set Adam is working on.
An acoustically resonant tube-set (1 pair), the MX068 PWM modified for 14.7hz, DMM connected in series to battery post reading amperage, a 4 gallon bucket of water and 2 teaspoons of KOH.
Watch it as it produces its own power after the threashold was reached then backed off PWM current!
Threshold 3 amp then back off to .025 (25milli-amp power running PWM board).
Truelly Amazing. (My jaw dropped as here is something that appears as a gift).
Last week I just had to visit Fred and his wife. Real people with heart's of gold. God bless!
I enjoyed my visit, talked, checked out the shop, helped out a little - yada yada.
YouTube - FutureEnergyConcepts's Channel
http://www.youtube.com/user/FutureEnergyConcepts#p/u/3/iaAAdeqSMFE
see post 171 and 172 over here.
http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/6235-future-energy-hydroxy-cell-6.html#post111149
@Chet:
I posted the YouTube.com link earlier in the thread. (See reply #86)
The energetic forum link is new to me. GREAT FIND!!!!! I told everybody to save all the information as it's being released. Some of it has already disappeared according to Adam.
Chessnyt
The most important thing will be the PDF !
It is good you are speaking with Adam,
GET THAT PDF !!
Folks are claiming that if what Freddy is doing is true
It would be 1000 times over faraday!!
Make sure you post it here!!
Well actually a new thread with a happier heading would be nice!
Or ask Adam to !!
Thanks
Chet
PS
If you fellahs aren't watching this you should be
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7833.new
400 % ---2700% overunity
Independently varified!!
and Thane Heinz [AKA Boom Boom Cranky Pants Man Zilla]the inventer is available for help in replication!!
I must be dreamin!!
The crow bar is in more than one door!
Lets give it a pry and bust open the flood gates to the future ,
I can't stand burning up My/our Carbon reserves just to stay warm!
Chessny, that sounds like a great plan, please document every step of your progression for us. Maybe that is the safest way to go, use electric heat and use the gas in an engine. Do you think you need to have a V8 to run that generator or maybe a 4 cylinder could do that job? That way it doesn't have to be in the house and be safer. Plus, any extra electricity you can sell back to the electric company and make some coin. I like that idea.
Chet, yes so many things coming together, it is getting exciting!
Mark
Quote from: ramset on October 21, 2010, 08:55:57 AM
GET THAT PDF !!
Folks are claiming that if what Freddy is doing is true
It would be 1000 times over faraday!!
@All
This appears to be the REAL Deal. What Freddy is showing is
that the a single tuned tube has a large power efficiency dynamic
range. It still requires a low level "clock" synchronization signal which
itself then power amplifies. It highly suggestive of a self powered
reaction. Of course that would mean a very high gain at very
low input power levels. But a more reasonable gain at the power levels
we would want for an engine. It is suggestive that some sort of
acoustic reasonant system could probably be found that would
be totally self powered. We really would prefer to not have a
chemical-material-only self running system as then it would be self
running sans external controls. But...so far things are looking good.
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@Loner
On the Maxx Tronic Max068 PWM Controller.
This was initially a DC motor controller adapted to generate HHO.
Freddy apparently modified his to run lower at 19Hz by using an LM393
circuit, most likely substitute (on a PC daughter board) for the
NE555 timer which indeed doesn't work all that well at low frequencies.
The DC motor controller part is fine as the Final FET Transistors
will need to handle inductive voltage spikes from drive coils in the
electolyzer. Apparently the MAXX Tronic circit was cloned far and
wide in the HHO community. It is not that complicated a circuit.
The electolyzer unit itself is where all the construction effort needs
to be placed. We are going to have to wait for Freddy to give the
exact details.
:S:MarkSCoffman
Mark S Coffman
Quote:
The electolyzer unit itself is where all the construction effort needs
to be placed.
:S:MarkSCoffman
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I'm sure our buddy "Loner" can help steer that effort
[utilysing his personal experience and resourses].
Chet
Hello Guys,
That are doing a great work but I would love to put my two sense into the pot if I may because I did an experiment with just distilled water by itself with the use of Paper clip and stainless steel spoon so if you are interested in how I did it by Tesla's AC with Edison's DC working together please contact me below at bottom of this message.
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Also more information below too.
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