See this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjqkHhWUKOU
I so hope they managed it. Seems pretty straightforward also. Could it be...?
Insane mileage from water. I would accept tanking water at quadruple rate of pertrol, but they are claiming outragous numbers. I can't grasp it.
Yes, maybe the dimensions of the electrolyser are critical;
Perhaps they will sell this as a kit.
It does have designs in common with this Peter Davey "Bell" Heater Web Link;
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=4083.0
And CF cold fusion energy tends to align it's energy output with the
hosting chemical process, which in this case is making HHO rather
than heat. All this stuff tends to work in common.
This means the PWM power supply is indeed depositing phonons.
:S:MarkSCoffman
Looks good if they are being straight with us. They say they want to share the tech at this point. Is there any info out there on their circuit? It looks like most of it is fairly common plumbing parts and fairly easily obtainable parts. The web site pics show a good amount of info other than the electronics of the PWM device. They must be running some pretty expensive Mosfets to handle they current they are generating. It does also sound like resonance in involved and important. I wonder if they have issues with hydrogen embrittlement or at least I've heard that is a problem with engines running HHO.
When I read the use of a resonant frequency I laughed - OF COURSE they are using resonance! I am coming to the conclusion its one of the secrets to over unity devices. I'm convinced Tesla knew it.
The images on the site are really good quality - hopefully someone here has the resources and knowledge to attempt a replication.
;D
I think all the needed info to replicate it can be found here:
http://www.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/products
Quote from: broli on August 18, 2010, 11:52:37 AM
I think all the needed info to replicate it can be found here:
http://www.futureenergyconceptsinc.com/products
The primary thing lacking there is info on the PWM circuit. Info on it and duty cycle and a schematic would be good to have. I did write to them requesting this but have not heard back yet.
Quote from: e2matrix on August 18, 2010, 02:55:40 PM
The primary thing lacking there is info on the PWM circuit. Info on it and duty cycle and a schematic would be good to have. I did write to them requesting this but have not heard back yet.
Yeah some info on that would be nice but I don't expect it to be too complex but expensive like a high current PWM from an EV. I find it strange though it's or just called a pulse width modulator. The question is, to what is this being modulated? If it operates on resonance or w/e wouldn't only one frequency be used? But I guess you need to adjust it to find that specific frequency hence the modulation?
And correct me if I'm wrong but these guys are doing something very rare for meyer research. That is using very high currents at high frequencies. While most of the people who built a stan meyer type fuel cell relied mostly on high voltages at high frequency.
They shared everything it is just that it is difficult to see.
The PWM can be bought already made.
Jesus
Here is the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yuN3pl7Vwk
Quote from: nievesoliveras on August 18, 2010, 04:50:59 PM
They shared everything it is just that it is difficult to see.
The PWM can be bought already made.
Jesus
Jesus, do you know where one might find a PWM controller like theirs? I think I remember hearing them talk in a video about MOSFets so I assumed they had built their own controller. I didn't see anywhere on their site they were selling anything yet. What appears to be the controller from the pictures looks a lot like a dual fan computer power supply. I thought they may have used the case from a power supply to keep components handling all that current cool. I still haven't heard anything from the email I sent them.
This is excerpted from the original Pure Energy Systems News article on the same topic by Michael Couch, August 10. It is part of the Q & A with Frederick Wells:
"4. What is this controller that you are using?
At the present time we are using a simple DC motor controller with a few modifications for frequency and the addition of several more mosfet transistors in the driving stage.
5. Did you make it yourself or is it available commercially? If so, where can it be found?
The unit unmodified is sold on eBay [PWM Pulse Width Modulator 55A HHO Hydrogen Generator] from Arizona Video, and the parts for modification were purchased from a local electronic distributor."
looks like this: http://www.musclecars.net/parts/PWM-PULSE-WIDTH-MODULATOR--55A-HHO-HYDROGEN-GENERATOR--For-Sale_300278758299.html
Quote from: e2matrix on August 18, 2010, 11:28:46 PM
Jesus, do you know where one might find a PWM controller like theirs? I think I remember hearing them talk in a video about MOSFets so I assumed they had built their own controller. I didn't see anywhere on their site they were selling anything yet. What appears to be the controller from the pictures looks a lot like a dual fan computer power supply. I thought they may have used the case from a power supply to keep components handling all that current cool. I still haven't heard anything from the email I sent them.
What I did was to write a search on ebay. You can search for dc motor driver or PWM or pulse modulator etc.
May be the one you find is not the same.
Mine says "Mikro-kits Mspc-1xx series" on the pc board.
Jesus
Thanks guys for all the info on the PWM controller. That narrows it down a lot. I haven't been very active in HHO stuff but am getting interested. I'm guessing they added a couple high current mosfets to handle a bit higher current. That one at musclecars.net does look like the one in the back of the Dodge truck.
Check this PWM controller - looks like the same board, Web Link;
http://hydrogenboostnow.com/50ampboxgauge.htm
Those are connector spade "pins" behind the heatsink.
Fans are to keep the heatsink cool. We are not alone. :)
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This net device seems to have 6x times Faraday yield - enough for
most road situations, apparently. A couple drops of HC never hurt an
ICE engine though. Is still think the "geometry" of the electrolyser
may need to be nearly exact for it to work.
:S:MarkSCoffman
Found this PWM, which I believe is by far the most heavy duty high current high frequency range for sale on the net.
http://www.hydrogenboostnow.com/100amp.html
I haven´t seen any other high current PWM with a range from 300 to 15000 Hz, so this i beliewe would be a nice alternative
to the PWM used in the video.
I have mailed to the Arizona Electronics for more extensive information about the PWM:s they sell. That way we may
more easily identify the PWM used by Frederick.
I mailed him some days ago about the risks he and his associate are taking by exposing their identities, and stressed
the importance for open source since this would probably keep him safe.
The adress I used was this: futureenergyconcepts@cableone.net
He answered me this:
"You are so right!!! I tried in 1982 during the gas crunch, with alot of opposition, decided to give it away to varried websites and personel,
whom haven't done much with it for the last 30 years. If the new concept is not open source-ie: our website, let me know how to make it more so! "
So he will probably in a short time respond to the mails sent by you.
But I think we have to calibrate our PWM:s ourselves in getting the HHO-system to resonate properly.
Just keep to the correct distances between the tubes and follow the other parameters given by these
friendly guys, and we will also succeed in getting 50+ liters per minute!
These admirable guys are genuine. Just hope the stay sound and safe.
Gwandau
From what I've read, seems the real trick is the ionization they use, to multiply the combustion power of the lpm's they are getting.
If ionizing is an OU way to boost the power of HHO (these guys use atomic H apparently), then the world IS saved...
Can you fellows keep me posted on this matter?
I built an 18"X8 316L Meyers cell and have to fix a leak in the bottom electrical connector.
Somethings been bugging me about HHO production and it has probably been answered before - if cells produce much more gas in a vacuum, why are there no commercial cells fitted with a small vacuum pump???
This looks too good to be true. I really hope it is the real thing. That would be incredible. Does anyone on here live near this fellow and can stop over and see his vehicle? If they can run that big truck, a small car should be easy.
Bill
you might not want to put a vacuum to that cell. I did and came too close to sucking water into my commercial vacuum pump. A person would need an extra 10" length of a cylinder added on to the Meyers type cell.
Regards,
Ray
Quote from: Pirate88179 on March 21, 2011, 04:12:09 PM
This looks too good to be true. I really hope it is the real thing. That would be incredible. Does anyone on here live near this fellow and can stop over and see his vehicle? If they can run that big truck, a small car should be easy.
Bill
The inventor’s name is Fred Wells, AKA: Fast Freddy. Freddy claimed to run a 2004 Dodge pickup on the cell but then had an accidental meltdown which prompted him to build another cell.
He built a much larger cell and could not even get it to run a smaller engine than the original Dodge. You would think he would have gone back to his former design, right? Instead, he gave up altogether and deleted his YouTube channel where all of his videos used to be posted.
Many people donated their hard earned money only to be scammed as Freddy never even made good on his original promise which was to release a detailed replication guide/e-book as some sort of open source project. He was a fake and not a man of his word. He has no honor or integrity.
The honest and talented Meyer cell researchers are working hard to deliver the goods at a site called ionizationx.com.
Chessnyt
@Bill
I had three associates fly there last August. The claims are not true and I feel sorry for his original partner who I believe lost thousands.
The excuses offered why it could not be demonstrated were Bizzare. I cannot go into detail to protect the inocent in this case.
Nothing has come of it and nothing ever will
Mark
Quote from: chessnyt on March 22, 2011, 01:26:44 AM
The inventor’s name is Fred Wells, AKA: Fast Freddy. Freddy claimed to run a 2004 Dodge pickup on the cell but then had an accidental meltdown which prompted him to build another cell.
He built a much larger cell and could not even get it to run a smaller engine than the original Dodge. You would think he would have gone back to his former design, right? Instead, he gave up altogether and deleted his YouTube channel where all of his videos used to be posted.
Many people donated their hard earned money only to be scammed as Freddy never even made good on his original promise which was to release a detailed replication guide/e-book as some sort of open source project. He was a fake and not a man of his word. He has no honor or integrity.
The honest and talented Meyer cell researchers are working hard to deliver the goods at a site called ionizationx.com.
Chessnyt
what a shock *sarcastic*...
Quote from: chessnyt on March 22, 2011, 01:26:44 AM
The inventor’s name is Fred Wells, AKA: Fast Freddy. Freddy claimed to run a 2004 Dodge pickup on the cell but then had an accidental meltdown which prompted him to build another cell.
He built a much larger cell and could not even get it to run a smaller engine than the original Dodge. You would think he would have gone back to his former design, right? Instead, he gave up altogether and deleted his YouTube channel where all of his videos used to be posted.
Many people donated their hard earned money only to be scammed as Freddy never even made good on his original promise which was to release a detailed replication guide/e-book as some sort of open source project. He was a fake and not a man of his word. He has no honor or integrity.
The honest and talented Meyer cell researchers are working hard to deliver the goods at a site called ionizationx.com.
Chessnyt
One should be pretty dumb for investing money in a guy who claims he has invented free energy. It should ring a bell, regardless of how retarded one possibly could be - there is no excuse for wasting money in a guy you don't know.
Never trust people who ask for donations, invenstments to accomplish their "work". Most of these inventors should have a normal job, and most of them do have time to save money over time, so they can complete their build without recieving money from other people.
Bottom line: Lack of money are NO excuse whatsoever. If you are convinced that your invention will work, get a loan and pay back when you're rich.
Vidar
Quote from: lefferdink on March 21, 2011, 10:55:03 PM
you might not want to put a vacuum to that cell. I did and came too close to sucking water into my commercial vacuum pump. A person would need an extra 10" length of a cylinder added on to the Meyers type cell.
Regards,
Ray
I appreciate the reply. Ah, yes, sucking in water might be a problem alright - but this is just a technicality isn't? I know the engine itself produces a vacuum, but I was wondering how much of this would be 'seen' by the cell - none at all I suspect if there's bubblers etc. in the way!
btw, I thought this 'Freddy' guy was shown to have been just blowing smoke. Some of his following videos certainly didn't inspire confidence.
Hey sprocket I live in Fort Mohave Arizona, a couple hundred miles away from Fast Freddy and was waiting to see more results. What a let-down. I am half tempted to build a ethanol still and have it done and over with. At least they work and a person can get a Federal Permit if you already have a still on your premises. 180 proof would make my old Nova get up and Roar.
Regards,
Ray W
@lefferdink - did you ever consider shopping with http://www.microfueler.com/t-product.aspx (http://www.microfueler.com/t-product.aspx) for your ethanol needs? I was really excited when I first read about this (years ago) and was equally surprised to see that he was allowed to proceed with it. But his 'terms and conditions' are a joke, yearly subscription, pump won't work without internet connection, 'taxed' for each gallon you produce, you still have to buy the raw-materials. And the ultimate insult, you are charged at a higher rate if you don't order the raw-materials from him. This guy surely deserves to fail.
If your gonna burn shine build yourself a charles 803 with a diameter of 6 to 8 inches and keep it to yourself. the collum can be conceiled to look like something ells.You need to find a potato farmer ,corn smells too much.
Hello - I am new to the forum and was directed here by a youtube video that these guys from Arizona with the truck that runs on straight-hydro had. On the video they welcomed others to come see how stuff worked - we would like to. How do I get in touch with them?