It apears to me this Guy has the circuit 
that is the exact same as you need for the moray 
valve and teslas black box I do not think he understands 
it basicaly he apears to have tuned the wire less 
lighting of a small incandescent by these plates 
which must drop the ohm / resistance 
some how not shure then hes able to place 
several more light without droping the power 
now if you tuned air to light that incandescent the same to earth
as you increased your bulbs in the middle your power will go up
he doesnt have his comments on and doubt has tried to set this wireless 
well good luck im 95% thia is correct or very close 
if you can play with it I think you will 
see im right basicaly the tubes will take 
the frequency and increase the power once you get it going 
remeber some times moray used a battery at first. 
Good luck  
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				Ok I watch more of his videos im not 
shure if this is Dr stiffler if it is maybee we have hope
it did apear to me he misses it and moves to the wireless 
transmision the diodes were the resistance 
when he removes tge diodes from video 2 
and adds the bulbs in there place that system needs to be exactly how he has it wired in this video then find a stubble field coil
to light the sec or a series of earth water bateries 
from antenna once you get the sec lit from the antenna 
earth batteries anything you can start tuning 
the bulbs finding where you can add power 
the power should increase as you add bulbs 
I know hes using higher voltage like 24 volts I think
but that is the setup just drop to a lower voltage 
or play with the circuit to get it to light from a lower 
voltage I have seen juel thief light those led so i know 
this is right I know what energy field hes in the same as my unlimited 
earth battery I dont know how to build these circuits 
ill try to find a diagram but I know you Guys can do this 
and probly have these circuits built already
just add a antenna he calls it spacial energy so I realy dont know if 
hes even using that transmitter in the end video at 130 volts. 
Also he built a wireless hydrogen 
this is very cool and with Haarp out the crooked Goverment 
hands Can free power hydrogen to every car.the work hes doing will be apreciated by million if we can get it implimented. 
 
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				yes, mrh202 is stiffler.
			
			
			
				this is nothing es than RF
All small rf transmitters MW SW FM will do this.
(i done this 50 years ago also 
(CFL and lamps)  no led avaiable.
pese
			
			
			
				Quote from: pese on September 18, 2010, 04:14:11 PM
this is nothing es than RF
funny. that's what tinselkoala said also, yet sigma16(grumpy) claims stiffler has the real deal... see this post: http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=7378.msg256555#msg256555
so then, how do we reconcile these conflicting 
opinions from these two groups of mental giants?
			
 
			
			
				Maybee im too stupid or maybee im a genuis 
but if you have a negative ohm does that mean you crossed 
zero point if it does then I can tell you where zero is 
Im prety shure there referring to this 
water as negative water in joe cell 
not really shure I dont understand ohm 
that much maybee negative is normal 
what exactly is a negative ohm ill try to search it 
he has the right thing i know thats tesla box 
he moves that flourescent between two fields zero point is the middle 
where it goes out it can eith goe out and stay off or 
cross over and stay lit he has the zero point circuit no doubt. 
Ask nice beg if you have too. 
			
			
			
				I shhouuld add the only real difference I can see between moray 
valve and teslas black box is the ground 
goes to another antenna which 
he demonstrates at the end of spacial energy 
no ground rod that is actualy the best system 
the ground rod will cause radiation to build 
which is probly why goverment smashed it 
not shure by the way inctlc has info on manhatten 
project was named after teslas earthquake 
so that puts the whole einstien nuke 
as not likely the city was leveled most likely leveled
 using tesla scalar wave. And same as 911 
the planes were the hydrogen bomb lol
think were stupid do you fucking lieing ass Goverment 
maybee they have a nuke but I dont think so 
i think it was a hydrogen Bomb to begin with 
maybee the bomb had tesla mahattan earth 
quake box in it could been in the city 
or thru earth life as you know it is changing. 
 
			
			
			
				Ok ill do my best to explain zero point energy 
the vacume and pressure determines 
resistance the air from here to there has resistence 
the vacume minimizes or eliminates the resistence
so where and how do you find Zero point 
energy Its right in front of you. 
The myan pyramid has no cap why?
The 4 points of the square go to the 5 
point the peak but the peak overlaps
so the zero point can range any where from 
the peak of the star of david to the bottom 
the exact center is the middle of zero point
so the flourescent has 4 prongs the four 
corners of the pyramid With no cap 
the zero point energy can range anywhere 
in that bulb why? Well at first the vacume is 
low but as it rises the vacume is less 
the vacume can fluctuates any where in the bulb 
anywhere the zero point energy is betwen pressure and vacume 
the the bulb is Zero point so 
because the bulb has no resistence 
put the resistence back in to match 
this would be from air the antenna 
when the resistence from air matches the vacume 
you get zero point the tesla coils emit 
a frequency that must magnify the 
resistence to match the bulb that lights it wireless 
if you match the resistance from air 
by adding in dr stifflers case he started with a 
pressurised incandescent a small one 
why? The incandescent has a pressure to provide more resistance 
to the fillament without that resistance it would burn up
so matching the two he some how found the middle.
That doesnt need a flourescent or incandescent 
but led so he some how parralled 
the led between a resistor and vacume 
the only thing I can think removes resistance 
is the inductor so the inductor tuned essentualy 
creates the vacume on both side of the led 
the led is the resistance. When the vacume matches the resistence 
you should always Have free power.
So the Joe cell by pluging the carb 
creates a vacume in the piston the joe cell
is a pressure the middle between the vacume 
it could also be the pressure either one 
depending on how you decide to run the motor 
well I did my best Ill try to design a drawing 
for you the Nas battery is the same principle 
the warm pressure is in the middle it seems 
Dr stiffler made the flourescen the exact 
middle in video 3 the plates are the cut tops of the pyramid 
so the incandecent was the resisentence 
and the resistence increased as he added bulbs as the light gets brighter 
thats why you only saw two so if you add 
more incandecents as you add flourecents the 
ground resistence = the input power 
eventualy the input power will be too low it will need 
more resitors to match the ground
so any power source is essentialy unlimited if you match the resistence on 
each side to the vacume well hope that helps 
maybey sone one can hook me up when you get it built. 
Peace thanks Dr Stifler. For the Great video 
I knoticed You were a little frustrated on the wireless hydrogen 
I think You did a Good Job and Your comments were down so 
I tell you from here That I apreciate Your Work. 
Cletus  
  
 
   
 
 
 
			
			
			
				So ground is a vacume 
air is resistor 
ac is a vacume 
So ac - vacume, incandescent pressure
resistor, Ground Vacume.
So ac vacume ballast must be a resistor 
flourescent vacume ,ballast resistor,ground vacume.
A closed loop coil is vacume on inductor 
as rod passes thru breaks the vacume
must pass the resistor/resistance to go back to the coil
as vacume is broke the vacume is passed to the ac. 
Hope that helps Im praying I say it all right. 
As you guys know I cant wire a board. 
Stupid huh. Like playing music cant do that either 
maybee now I understand it better who knows.
Dont sound like I need a board maybee 
I can do this so we need a vacume that equals the ground 
ya beings air is a resistor morays seems tougher 
oh i see add a resistor to the ground rod 
tune the restitance to air then put a vacume on each side 
of the pressure bulbs so his cells were just any rock 
that creates a vacume that you can tune 
the resistance to. Once the vacume and 
resistence matches the cell as long as the 
middle ressitance is stabke you be cool 
but the ac in a house fluctuates so we need 
a series of adjustable resistors like the 
and vacume that can change as the load changes 
like the incandecent gets brighter 
as you increase the vacume we need a vacume that gets more as we increase
resistance. A self tuning inductor should do 
im shure you guys can figure that out.   
 
 
 
			
			
			
				I was thinking like a two way switch 
so when the light is turned off it doesnt lose resistence 
and change the tuning it will just be switched to a resistor 
that equals say a 60 watt incandescent that sounds practical 
so you could tune the house and just have a small 
battery section for the items that fluctuate 
more like motors would need a stable 
dc charger that swaps to a resistor when its not charging 
so the dc can them fluctuate as needed 
with a ac inverter so like your fridge your 
air things that kick on and off 
will need a stabllizer mabey just a inductor would do 
seems like if we get things right they will get implimented pretty fast 
incandescent seem to have a big range 
beings the power will be free it wont matter 
the energy bill just easiest to tune it. 
I was thinking the ballast should make hydrogen 
extremly fast if its a resistor water a vacume 
then both sides that go to the bulb 
should really get the hydrogen going. 
			
			
			
				it have nothing to do with "negative resistance"
I know this technic, i have published the "negistor"
in netherland "electuur", before us parers have
modified this and published years later.
BUT this Lightning (in this tread) is ONLY RF.
Any HAM  (radio-amateur)  can explain in Proper englisch language
G Pese
www.alt-nrg.de/pese
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				No i dont think you understood I was refering the negative capacitance to the joe cell water the resistance is raised 
or lowered using bulbs as you add another 
bulb the resistance is increased as the flow is increased 
if you added a normal resistor as you incresed resistance 
the flow decreases thats how I understand It im doing my best to help
if you know his circuit then you know how to build it 
spacial energy is not wireless he states 
this is not wireless energy its spacial 
energy. 
			
			
			
				Quote from: cletushowell on September 19, 2010, 11:13:29 AM
No i dont think you understood I was refering the negative capacitance to the joe cell water the resistance is raised 
or lowered using bulbs as you add another 
bulb the resistance is increased as the flow is increased 
if you added a normal resistor as you incresed resistance 
the flow decreases thats how I understand It im doing my best to help
if you know his circuit then you know how to build it 
spacial energy is not wireless he states 
this is not wireless energy its spacial 
energy.
Possibly , i dont have understand this exactly (by language),
so try to follow yur  mind
G.Pese
			
 
			
			
				Dear Dr. Stiffler
 after some considerable thought I have decided 
to ask you to build a spacial hydrogen 
circuit as I know that your power source is 
free and it can be converted to hydrogen 
as there is no ac battery at this time 
the best alternative is a spacial hydrogen 
as you are leading the field in both wireless hydrogen 
and spacial energy I feel you are maybee 
the only one that can build this project.
I think you will find one of two hydrogen 
system to work very well either a stainless 
wire wound coik inside another coil similaf to a roden 
coil with a second coil in between 
this will pick up the frequency 
much better and or a system of very close 
tubes that do not allow the water to 
sit in between but force it to vaporise 
by a funnel type inner ring that is seperated 
by small gap from the second pipe the funnel 
with force the water to the gap and vaporiss it instanly 
due to health concern I will be trying to limit 
my science development and focus on trying 
to rebuild my life at this time as science has became a addiction 
for me. 
Thanks Cletus