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Title: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: Magnethos on October 16, 2010, 05:23:24 PM
What do you think about time travel?
A lot of information has been heard since some years ago. All people have heard about it, but almost nobody knows nothing about the science behind it.

I write this post because since some time ago, I've found some information in different books (from 100 years to know, in different languages) that claims that some people have build "Time Machines" specially some devices to heard and/or watch the events of the past. I've read about 10 people that have claimed some information about devices to see the past.

It's very interesting that I've found strong similarities between the theories exposed in those different books. Since, all matter can "record" sound and light information... and the ether is a chemical compound (massless, virtual)...
Then the ether is recording all the information in the universe and we can tune it to see past events?
Also, the matter can be dematerialized, and materialized. So... What do you think about time travel? It could be possible?
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: truthbeknown on October 17, 2010, 12:35:51 AM

Well, its certainly something that has been on peoples minds or else we would not have had all the movies that have been made showing people time travel. We are advancing so quickly with technology just in the past 100 years that maybe it can become a reality.

:)
J.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: FatChance!!! on October 17, 2010, 03:34:25 AM
Time traveling is hindred by the laws of physics but it takes the power of from a super nova to run it.
But you might just end up in a parallel universe in another time.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: Magnethos on October 17, 2010, 03:38:15 AM
Thanks truth,

I really meant if you think that time travel technology already exist and has be hidden from the public for obviously national security reasons.

All we know that in the history have been a lot of alchemist that have transmutated matter. Nowadays, there is also alchemist and some people that claims that they can transmutate chemical compound one to other.

In the last years, I have read a lot of information about people that have made devices to hear (or even see) the past. In the Montauk experiment, for example, have been claimed that the entire project was basically a Mind Amplifier, and that the engineers were able to read people thoughts at a distance and even print thoughts electronically in the mind of those people.

I've some books that the same experiments have been carried with similar results (the authors of those experiments were different ones). Maybe is possible to read people thought with some kind of electronic circuitry?
Do you think that stuff said about that Black Projects is true or not?

Quote from: FatChance!!! on October 17, 2010, 03:34:25 AM
Time traveling is hindred by the laws of physics but it takes the power of from a super nova to run it.
But you might just end up in a parallel universe in another time.

Yes, I've also heard that. If you don't do it well, you can end in a parallel reality. It seems that the universe is running multiple (or almost infinite) realities at the same time. So, time travel is an option, and traveling through present but in different spacetimes could be another option.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: gravityblock on October 17, 2010, 08:02:41 AM
Teleportation Physics Study by U.S. Air Force (the version released to the public), http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=2484.0;attach=9375

GB
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on October 18, 2010, 07:11:07 AM
@shou

I think you need an idiot  power leveling method to power the level and level the power.  ;D
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: telemachus on December 27, 2010, 04:58:23 AM
I think it's possible.  Time travel/warping can be found in nature. Examples include an electron which resonates at different locations and times, all at once!! Also, Einstein's theory of special relativity proves that time can be warped and that time and space are relative. Example: if an astronaut is in a very fast moving space-ship, he time travels into the future by fractions of a second or more.

The only obstacle to time travelling in the past is the energy system to make this possible. There is probably some kind of electromagnetism, maybe plasma, or a ZPE device that can warp time and space.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 27, 2010, 01:07:42 PM
Quote from: telemachus on December 27, 2010, 04:58:23 AM
I think it's possible.  Time travel/warping can be found in nature. Examples include an electron which resonates at different locations and times, all at once!! Also, Einstein's theory of special relativity proves that time can be warped and that time and space are relative. Example: if an astronaut is in a very fast moving space-ship, he time travels into the future by fractions of a second or more.

The only obstacle to time travelling in the past is the energy system to make this possible. There is probably some kind of electromagnetism, maybe plasma, or a ZPE device that can warp time and space.
einstein's theory of relativity (general or special) has not been proven. there is no "proof", only evidence that supports it... as there are still evidences that refute it that have not been resolved. columbia university astronomer c.l. poor gave unassailable refutations of the claims of eddington in 1922, '26 and '30. i.e., that observations of the 1919 south american solar eclipse confirmed einstein's predicted gravitational attraction of light.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: Omnibus on December 27, 2010, 01:31:56 PM
Einstein's "theory" of relativity is not even a theory. It a useless creation based on internal contradictions. That in plain language is called nonense. Hence, time travel is nonsense.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 27, 2010, 02:01:17 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on December 27, 2010, 01:31:56 PM
Einstein's "theory" of relativity is not even a theory.
incorrect. why are you spouting such hyperbole? einstein's "theory" fits the criteria of a theory just fine.

Quote from: Omnibus on December 27, 2010, 01:31:56 PMIt a useless creation based on internal contradictions. That in plain language is called nonense. Hence, time travel is nonsense.
is this your idea of a deductive argument? i sure hope not... because that's classic omni nonsense right there, straight out of your steorn soliloquies.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: Omnibus on December 27, 2010, 02:06:47 PM
The above shows you have no clue. Don't bother.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 27, 2010, 02:13:24 PM
Quote from: Omnibus on December 27, 2010, 02:06:47 PM
The above shows you have no clue. Don't bother.
is that your idea of a cogent rebuttal? ::)
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: Omnibus on December 27, 2010, 02:31:58 PM
Oh, never mind.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: spinn_MP on December 27, 2010, 03:06:06 PM
Ha? Omnibot is criticizing Einstein?
Looks like the trolling/spamming bots are getting better and better every day...

Doh..I must have clicked on that Funny Farm site.. again?
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 27, 2010, 03:13:18 PM
Quote from: spinn_MP on December 27, 2010, 03:06:06 PM
Ha? Omnibot is criticizing Einstein?
Looks like the trolling/spamming bots are getting better and better every day...

Doh..I must have clicked on that Funny Farm site.. again?
einstein was no deity spinner. nor was his theory correct. obviously.

"The genius of Einstein is shown most clearly in his perception of an omission from Newton's system of kinematics that had not previously been noticed and that might, as he saw, provide an opening for a reform that would reconcile the two conflicting branches of physics (kinematics & electromagnetism). In such insight he was pre-eminent in his generation: his weakness...lay in his relative inability to follow up the implications of his insight and in a too great readiness to accept a promising starting- point as an achieved goal. He was rather like one of a body of men imprisoned in a dungeon, who alone perceives an opening offering a means of escape, but omits to verify that it does not lead merely to another part of the dungeon..." (Science at the Crossroads,1972)
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on December 27, 2010, 11:13:57 PM
I think it is God only can go back to yesterday and after tomorrow  ???
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on December 28, 2010, 09:40:30 AM
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on December 27, 2010, 11:13:57 PM
I think it is God only can go back to yesterday and after tomorrow  ???
god is imaginary teets...
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 03, 2011, 06:44:51 AM
Quote from: WilbyInebriated on December 28, 2010, 09:40:30 AM
god is imaginary teets...

hmmmmmm, I guest your an atheist  ;D  ;)

Try to bite your tongue, after it you cannot go with that again But it can be repeated and double already in different time. therefore i conclude, we can explore everything in time incrementally. oh boy i'm out of my mind   ???  ;D

OR! we can use a video cam and rewind it, but! still another time and we cannot modify what happened awhile ago. thats why video cam are really good witness in crime.  ;D

IF GOD IS IMAGINARY THEN WE ARE NOTHING. CAUSE IMAGINARY IS NOTHING.
AND DO YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS SOMETHING FROM NOTHING? ;D

IT IS THE CONSCIENCE THAT GOD PUT INTO HUMAN BEING TO TELL THAT HE IS REAL OK  ;)
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: WilbyInebriated on January 03, 2011, 10:33:48 AM
Quote from: Tito L. Oracion on January 03, 2011, 06:44:51 AM
oh boy i'm out of my mind   ???  ;D
it would appear so...
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: FreeEnergy on January 04, 2011, 05:06:42 PM
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Time.â€"Dean Inge says that “Time is a sequence of events in a Unitary Whole.”
This is an excellent definition; for, of course, time is not a thing of itself; it is sim-
ply a measure of experience in eternity. Time does not contradict Eternity, but allows It to become expressed in terms of definite experience. Time is necessary
since it allows experience to take place within the One, but time is never a thing of
itself. It is really impossible to measure time; for yesterday is gone and to-morrow
has not come, and to-day is rapidly slipping into the past. If we were to attempt
to put a finger on any period of time it would be gone before we could point to it.
But, illusive as time is, it is still necessary to experience.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: FreeEnergy on January 04, 2011, 05:14:31 PM
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Something cannot
come from nothing; something must come from something; for nothing comes
from nothing and nothing is the result
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: Omnibus on January 04, 2011, 05:40:39 PM
Quote from: FreeEnergy on January 04, 2011, 05:14:31 PM


On the contrary, it can. Energy can come out of no pre-existing reservoir, "out of nothing", that is, because it can come from spontenous displacement under the action of a conservative force. Force and displacement are not nothing but they are not energy.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: raburgeson on June 07, 2011, 08:45:30 PM
Why not? One report is they make a small black hole to power the device. About 3 years back many areas reported time slips. Probably a nature occurrence. Might have been caused by the Earth's magnetic field weakening. Something caused it and it was kept out of the news. Don't you wonder at the fever  behind the pandemic watch and all those other things? The time line causing that may not be our own.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 07, 2011, 10:39:18 PM
Time is not a transversible entity. It is simply a unit of measurement, used to denote a sequence of events.

While certain conditions may exist, that alter our perception of the passage of time, compared to some theoretical constant-time, we cannot go "forward" or "backwards" through time.

high/low speeds, or certain energy fields can cause events to occur faster or slower, when compared to a measurement of those same events in under different conditions. This, has nothing to do with actual "time", only our perception of time.
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: neptune on June 08, 2011, 04:05:13 PM
I have discovered a way to travel into the future , at a rate of 60 seconds every minute ...
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: powercat on June 08, 2011, 06:40:03 PM
Yes,Old news  ;D
http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2009/10/is-a-time-travelling-higgs-sab.html
;)
Title: Re: Time travel: myth or reality?
Post by: sm0ky2 on June 09, 2011, 12:37:02 AM
Quote from: neptune on June 08, 2011, 04:05:13 PM
I have discovered a way to travel into the future , at a rate of 60 seconds every minute ...

In theory, this is possible.
However, you would not actually be "traveling through time".
Your perspective of time would be altered, within the time-dialation field, so that you experience events occuring at a slower rate.
i.e. - things to you would seem to take one second, but in "normal time" a full minute has passed.

Of course, when i say "normal time" i mean the rate at which events occur normally here on earth. This may not be the rate events occur in other places in the universe, in which conditions might be different.

Think of it as changing the length of the yard-stick, with which we measure time.