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[Doctor No]

Such tales are as above are complete nonseless. Even when we have a machine which has 80% eff. it is more economical as all other todays machines. F.e. the most effective electrical engines (which we use for our DRJ, polish VHG) have total electricity into mechanical power some 58-59% eff. This Siemens engines are 30% more effective as others producers which make mostly 40% only. Without this, we could not brake 100% total point, even if reactor makes 192% self (by 7.5 kW engine, mechanical power into heat conversion). Let^s calculate: 192x58%=111% When we had used standard, others producers engines, it could be merely 77%. But it really makes no sense to discus. Even by 77% total eff. such machine is 40% more effective by polish prices as gas burning, and 2.5 x more over coal. This is by s.c. night electricity prices. By day it will be another relation: for gas same cost, for coal some 1.7 x cheaper. (Coal home burning is the silliest thing i know. Soon it will be cheaper with US dollars to heat).  Russian VHGs are already some 75-80% eff. machines. Please compare with our polish DRJ200: our 7.5 kW engine produces 9.8/10.8 kW of heat (last date is by reactor head 99% isolation, also total maximum heat possible) and takes 16A of electricity which makes total of 9.9 kWh consumption. Motor runs at 75% max. power. Russian 7.5 kW engine makes only 8.3 kW of heat and consumes more electricity. You can also compare by weights: our is under 80 kG, theirs over 100. And they don^t have DRJ600 (total 350% eff. machine, a series variation of DRJ1000).                                         It is even not economical to use DRJ200.7 for 1 home, cos it can heat 380-1700 m2 (250-55 W/m2). By DRJ200.11 which is really standard for this series, it can heat 600-2700 m2. With same engine DRJ600.11 can heat between 2000-10.000 sq. m, and this to 10x cheaper over coal and 6 to gas. This calcs stay for polish prices relations of: 7.5 ec per 1 kWh electricity, 185 EUR/1 T coal, 45 ec for 1 m3 of gas. DRJ200 series is by above dates to 3x more effective over coal and 2 over gas.

[mscoffman]

@Omnibus

Funny you should mention this company. A good client of mine (in unrelated stuff) knows of my involvement in OU studies and he wants me to get on a plane and fly to Germany with him to see this same company and inspect their device to determine if it is real or not.

After doing my own research on the company, I flatly refused to waste time on it. My client will be building some 200 self-sustaining homes in the near future (I do the water treatment side of it) and he wanted to have each home with their own free-energy device. So he wants to buy a manufacturing license from these guys. We're talking some serious money.

Anyways, I told him that every cent he puts into this, he will never see again. So I told him to run from these guys and especially to not go there since he does not know what type of games these guys can play to get his money. I will be seeing him again after the New Year so I'll know if he heeded my advise or if he decided that he knows better.

I don't know wattsup. This sounds like fun to me. Asumming one could put together
an instrumentation controller to test these things. I believe that the underunity
parts of these units are probably fairly conservative designs. I would not advocate
using them for energy gain other then sensible heating substitution for furnaces and
water heaters in a solarcell powered type home. These are fail-soft situations
due to wear etc. Someone has to do this. Doctor No would just have to hold the
tacheons and anti-grav. 

:S:MarkSCoffman

[Omnibus]

I don't know wattsup. This sounds like fun to me. Asumming one could put together
an instrumentation controller to test these things. I believe that the underunity
parts of these units are probably fairly conservative designs. I would not advocate
using them for energy gain other then sensible heating substitution for furnaces and
water heaters in a solarcell powered type home. These are fail-soft situations
due to wear etc. Someone has to do this. Doctor No would just have to hold the
tacheons and anti-grav. 

:S:MarkSCoffman

Well, proper lab infrastructure to properly study these is out of reach to almost any OU researcher. Well-equipped labs don't want to touch it with a ten foot pole even if you find funding to finance them. The very fact that they intend to investigate such a thing puts them in a quandary. We are in a paragraph 22 situation.

[Doctor No]

You are completly right. Nobody wants it, even frozes as in this winter. F. E. my friend burnt already in XII 3T of brown coal for 200 sqm. (He could not afford normal coal already) Yet fuel is out, he says as most in Poland about wood only. But please imagine wood to take in winter for heat purposes. It has already killed many peoples. They simply don^t know how to use it properly. The most effective way is gasification. You can speak about, but they also treat you as in way of free energy. Even renovned professors. :-)