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Thane heins Rodin pulse motor

Started by Jimboot, August 04, 2012, 09:34:38 AM

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MileHigh

#40
August 08, 2012, 10:23:40 PM
Jimboot:

QuoteYes it does power two 12 v lamps in series but certainly not to full brightness. I just didnt think to measure .

Measuring the voltage across a 12-volt lamp is also not a good measurement method.  The resistance of the light bulb filament varies with brightness.  So the resistance is an unknown and therefore your power measurement is unknown.  Measuring the voltage across a resistor is infinitely better.  The value of the resistor's resistance will be nearly constant with changes in temperature.

MileHigh

MileHigh

#41
August 08, 2012, 10:27:50 PM
Jimboot:

QuoteI have a USB Scope which is not hooked up atm. . The voltage from the Gen coil, 250v is straight from the FWBR, no cap or battery connected so spinning slowly. I have not measured the current from the gen when connected to the battery but I will.

I still don't understand the setup to measure the 250 V x 30 mA.   What was the load and how did you get 30 mA?

Thanks,

MileHigh

Jimboot

#42
August 08, 2012, 10:37:48 PM
Unfortunately I'm doing this with only two meters so I'll pick up some more today. The Voltage was simply probes on the output of the FWBR unloaded. I'll have to get back to you about the current tonight when I'm back in the shed.

Jimboot

#43
August 08, 2012, 10:57:24 PM
Quote from: MileHigh on August 08, 2012, 10:10:25 PM
Jimboot:

Can you explain how you made your measurements?

Do you have a scope?  Assuming that you have the output of the FWBR being fed back to the run battery (no capacitor) then your measurement will be very easy.  You need to measure the output current going to the battery only.  Then you need to measure the return current from the FWB going into the battery only.  i.e. don't mix the current going to the motor and the current back from the coil as a single measurement.  Then just multiply by the battery voltage by each current measurement to get your power.

This measurement is presuming that the battery voltage is nearly constant, which you could verify with a scope.

Any measurement that you make when you just have a capacitor connected as a "load" on the unrectified generator coil output doesn't tell you anything.  In that case all the power is reactive power, not real power.  Energy goes back and forth between the generator coil and the capacitor for net zero power.

MileHigh
Sorry just re read this you mean if I can paraphrase; Connect the FWBR up to the run battery and measure the current. Measure the current FROM the run battery TO the the motor?

MileHigh

#44
August 08, 2012, 11:00:58 PM
Yes that's correct.  Treat them as two separate and distinct measurements.
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