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The Magneformer-lenzless transformer ?

Started by tinman, November 10, 2013, 08:34:54 AM

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Farmhand

Quote from: MileHigh on November 18, 2013, 08:58:01 PM
Think about a long straight wire carrying current and you know that there is a magnetic field around the wire.  Where is the North?  Where is the South?  The answer is that there is no North or South.  North and South are convenient terms to use when discussing a bar magnet, but the actual truth applies in the same way as for the wire.  We can say that a bar magnet has a North end, but there is no such thing as a "North" magnetic field in reality.

When it comes to transformer cores, it's a similar deal as a long straight wire.  There is no such thing as the primary winding building a North field in the core.  What you can say as an example is that the primary winding will produce a clockwise then a counter-clockwise magnetic field (or magnetic flux) in the core as the current changes direction.  There is no "North" part of the core, ever.  There is no beginning or end to a circle or a closed loop.

MileHigh

I agree and raised this point some time ago, when describing the magnetic actions in his rotating magnetic field converters and motors Tesla used the words or term "magnetic intensities" and not magnetic poles or polarities, I think it is the magnetic intensities that rotate in the annular core. It depends on which way the rotation happens and how the coils are wound in relation to that as to the effect of the induction.

As for the turns and magnetic field intensity, if in both cases the wire is a standard size and the supply is a fixed voltage AC then more turns and more inductance means less current. I did mention that he was referring to regular efficient power transformers and to vary from that scenario will see different needs, wants and results.

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MileHigh

And a related comment:  In the Bedini enthusiast world there is a debate about the rotor magnets.  Should they be North facing out or South facing out?  Some people claim that one is better than the other.  I believe that even Bedini himself has made comments expressing favouritism for one pole over the other.  It's assumed that when people do experiments and observe differences it's attributable to other factors, including the human factor.  If you are pushing yourself too much and expect to see a difference then you risk being like the guy that was convinced that his horse could do additions and subtractions.

There is no difference between North facing out and South facing out beyond the expected differences.  For example, the EMF induced in your coil will be opposite.  Some beginners will rewind the coil from clockwise to counter-clockwise to compensate not knowing that all that they have to do is cross the drive coil wires.

MileHigh

Magluvin

Actually TK and I, and some others, had done some experiments a few years back that did show some differences between N and S poles. Maybe he still has a video up on that subject. ;)

Mags