Meyer's 1st law of Electrolysis?

[not Isaac]

Hello to everyone on the board.
This is my first post and I?d like to throw a few thoughts out there.

As a very keen supporter of the late great Stanley Meyer I?ve spent some considerable time examining his work (I have yet to begin to replicate it) and electrolysis in general. I?ve also been looking at Faraday (obviously) and for some considerable time I?ve sat at this desk with an uneasy feeling. The penny finally dropped last night looking at the Wikipedia entry for Faraday. As at 12 April 2008 it states:

?Michael Faraday studied the process of electrolysis in detail. He published two laws of electrolysis based on this research which are known as Faraday's laws of electrolysis.?

Which isn?t quite correct now, due to Meyer?s work. As we know Faraday specifically studied current driven electrolysis. I amended it in my head (my changes are in red) and came up with this:

?Michael Faraday studied the process of current driven electrolysis in detail. He published two laws of electrolysis based on this research which are known as Faraday's laws of current driven electrolysis.?

Taking it a step further and looking at his first law, it states, since 1832:

Faraday's 1st Law of Electrolysis

?The mass of a substance produced at an electrode during electrolysis is directly proportional to the number of electrons (the quantity of electricity) transferred at that electrode. ?

Which is now incorrect for Meyer Electrolysis of water. Amending it I came up with this:

Faraday's 1st Law of current driven Electrolysis

?The mass of a substance produced at an electrode during current driven electrolysis is directly proportional to the number of electrons (the quantity of electricity) transferred at that electrode. ?

Then I was happy as it is now correct and accurate again. Nice one Mr Faraday! Do the same with his second law, again since 1832:

Faraday's 2nd Law of Electrolysis

?The number of faradays of electric charge required to discharge one mole of substance at an electrode is equal to the number of "excess" elementary charges on that ion.?

Amend it due to Meyer and we have this

Faraday's 2nd Law of current driven Electrolysis

?In current driven electrolysis the number of faradays of electric charge required to discharge one mole of substance at an electrode is equal to the number of "excess" elementary charges on that ion. ?

It must be specified that it is current driven electrolysis or it?s inaccurate! Again I?m happy as we now have an accurate, balanced account of Faraday?s work and his laws of current driven electrolysis. Taking this thought process further and looking at Meyer we can now derive what I believe to be his first law of electrolysis. I propose this as a starting point:

Meyer?s 1st Law of uni-polar, stepped voltage potential driven, duty cycled Electrolysis of electrolyte free water.

?In uni-polar, stepped voltage potential (within a duty cycle) driven electrolysis of water, the maximum possible volume of Rhodes gas produced occurs when resonance of the applied duty cycle and the electrolysis apparatus is achieved whilst maintaining little or no current flow between the positive and negative electrodes.?


So there we go. Meyer did it, everyone out there is replicating it. I?ve amended Faraday?s 1st and 2nd to make them correct and put forward an idea for Meyer?s 1st law of Electrolysis.

Time to throw it all out there and ask for improvements? How can this be improved? Are there 2nd and 3rd laws for Meyer?s work? Let me know what you think.

(There are many other scenarios to consider when using Meyer electrolysis. You can elicit Faraday effect if you don?t do Meyer correctly so there appears to me a great deal of work required to specify what happens when current flows and Meyer switches over to Faraday. Not that we want this to happen. Interesting.) 

If my proposal for Meyer?s first law of Electrolysis is acceptable, what happens next? How do you amend existing laws of Physics and add new ones and to a much lesser extent, amend Wikipedia to make it accurate?


not Isaac

How can you not admire a man who ignored numerous death threats and turned down a billion dollars cash and kept going? He knew he was right, as many on this BB and others do. What an incredible man.


Appendix I

Summary of the changes and additions required to the laws of physics due to Stanley Meyer. Additions highlighted in red.

B. Newton  Nottingham, UK     
Version 1.0 on 12/04/2008 at 16:06

I.a    Faraday's 1st Law of current driven Electrolysis

?The mass of a substance produced at an electrode during current driven electrolysis is directly proportional to the number of electrons (the quantity of electricity) transferred at that electrode. ?
   
          (Amendment to Faraday?s 1st law of Electrolysis)

I.b   Faraday's 2nd Law of current driven Electrolysis

?In current driven electrolysis the number of faradays of electric charge required to discharge one mole of substance at an electrode is equal to the number of "excess" elementary charges on that ion. ?

          (Amendment to Faraday?s 2nd law of Electrolysis)

I.c   Meyer?s 1st Law of uni-polar, stepped voltage potential driven, duty cycled Electrolysis of electrolyte free water.

?In uni-polar, stepped voltage potential (within a duty cycle) driven electrolysis of water, the maximum possible volume of Rhodes gas produced occurs when resonance of the applied duty cycle and the electrolysis apparatus is achieved whilst maintaining little or no current flow between the positive and negative electrodes.?

         (Addition of Meyer?s 1st law of Electrolysis)