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[turbo]

Aluminium in a water+KOH solution works fine and is cheap.
You dont need powder aluminium, a big chunk works well and is being eaten by the solution slowly. 
If you want to control the gas production you could make some sort of mechanism which moves the aluminium in and out of the solution.
It's a good way to produce HHO without electricity.

Electrolyse is better if you use seperate electrodes because then on one electrode is formed hydrogen and on the other oxygen, so this is more safe because it doesnt blow up as fast as the combined cells.
This methode uses electricity and i haven't seen any real effecient cells.

Marco.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmYgoGPmCok

And after 5 days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zICEHEbAhs

[turbo]

 

[Hydro-Cell]

Hi

Did someone tried to create controlled cell of water with sodium hydroxide and aluminum powder?
mixing  controlled amounts of aluminum powder with sodium hydroxide.

Thank you

ron

hi
i belive that might be me.....

i belive i have the only reactor that is capable of controlling this correctly

i am currently in the process of fitting it to a go kart, and later money permitting another kart that runs on a fuel cell.

i will then compare the two and see how they fair.

[jadaro2600]

Aluminium in a water+KOH solution works fine and is cheap.
You dont need powder aluminium, a big chunk works well and is being eaten by the solution slowly. 
If you want to control the gas production you could make some sort of mechanism which moves the aluminium in and out of the solution.
It's a good way to produce HHO without electricity.

Electrolyse is better if you use seperate electrodes because then on one electrode is formed hydrogen and on the other oxygen, so this is more safe because it doesnt blow up as fast as the combined cells.
This methode uses electricity and i haven't seen any real effecient cells.

Marco.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmYgoGPmCok

And after 5 days:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zICEHEbAhs

The problem with that is the actual degradation of the electrode.  On top of that, when aluminum passes into the water, it does so as an oxide - yes, gases are formed, but Oxygen is also absorbed - energy is retarded and stored in this molecule as  ... Aluminum oxide, which is used in electrolytic capacitors as a dielectric because it will not conduct electricity. ( to the best of my knowledge ).

A freely suspended Ion is the best way to facilitate hydrogen gas production.  SOmething that will remain in suspension and not exit as a gas is the best practice.

For example; platinum electrodes with a sodium ( alkali ) solution. h2o + baking soda + water + ( platinum plated electrodes + electricity ) = HHO production.

Also: graphite electrodes with a sodium ( alkali ) solution. h2o + baking soda + water + ( electrode discharge machining graphite + electricity ) = HHO roduction.

I think that both situations would facilitate HHO production without degrading the electrode and without the facilitation ion leaving the solution reaction chamber.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  I'm no chemist.

Sodium could just as easily be replaced by Potassium in these situation.

[Ronnie2009]

Hi

Thank you all,
helpful answers.

ron