Even the President wants a working model

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Lastly, a comment about what you said regarding patents.  While it is true that patent holders often omit some details to try to preserve some secrets, there is a fine line to be drawn.  If the invention is not the same as the patent, a patent may not protect it.  In our case, there are some very specific electric circuits that are patented.  If the actual working circuits are different from these, then the patent is worthless.

I have looked at some of these patents, and they are pretty detailed.  If the secret of overunity is there, someone should be able to replicate them.

I apologize everyone, I was not in a mood yesterday of any type of argumentation. I was engaged in arranging care for my ailing mom and had plenty of responsibilities going on that were not allowing me to think straight.

I want to address this quote from utilitarian, who must have been having a bout of mental illness, or maybe he was just in an argumentative mood yesterday and just felt like attacking either Stan Meyers or myself. Look at his statement above, it does not refute anything I wrote about patents. In fact, it is supportive of my previous phrase about how examples in patents don't always work as they are presented and details are held back. Stan Meyers obviously had a working device that convinced the patent office of its legitimacy. The fact that he might have left off details from the patent are obvious because of many previous attempts by others to duplicate his work, or else it would have worked as presented. I personally have been involved in, and have my name on, two patents. The example I provided for one of the patents was a general formula that was vague (as I was told to present by my superiors), and it was intentionally vague enough to conceal specific details that are important for the technology to work. As presented the technology would work very poorly or not at all. So yes, utilitarian, people DO leave out important details, and what I said is TRUE!

Stan Meyers' patents may have detailed and specific circuits, but he cleverly left enough out to prevent the stealing and duplicating of the technology by others. I don't know what utilitarian's problem was yesterday but he needs to wake up to the real world. People do leave important details out of patents intentionally.