It's later then you think - time to panic?

[steve_whiss]

it's later then you think - time to panic?

Now I'm dropping into headless chicken mode after sitting through a lot of negative news. And this has nothing to do with the credit crunch.


If reports out in last few days are right, oil is in decline RIGHT NOW. The bad part is that our society might need 20 years just to deploy an alternative. Snag is - we don't have the time. So that would be a crash-and-burn moment for the West.


1st: a video going from “No problemo!” to “Oops..”: International Energy Agency (IEA; they are the world's pundit on oil reserves) has reassessed oil supply situation and says, taking best and most optimistic possibilities across the board, oil demand exceeds supply from 2020.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/video/2008/dec/15/fatih-birol-george-monbiot


2nd: "Energy Roundtable" oil industry insiders commenting on this report and adding their own background data say taking the most optimistic assumptions is WAY too optimistic. Guess as to oil situation in +5 years (2014) production down to 60 million barrels a day from 83 mbd and oil at $300 - $400 a barrel.

This is an hour long audio programme and it shows the gulf between what oil data analysts see / think and the outside world. These guys are depressed and worried; they don't think we as a culture (i.e. the technocratic West) can make the jump + survive.

http://www.financialsense.com/Experts/roundtable/2008/1213.html

If this comes true, there won't be an economy able to supply the parts for your OU devices. Will there still be transport, heat, power, running water etc? (..this for 2014)

// watch out for the naming EIA / IEA ... 2 different groups


3rd: EB a conventional energy site focussed on peak oil and climate change, banging the drum “how unprepared we are”. Good background; this link focusses on the way communities are really not ready e.g. how to go to work, feed yourself, the basis of non-growth economies etc etc.

www.energybulletin.net/node/47469


Time to roll-out those high-power, useful OU devices, guys - is now!

No pressure....
Steve

[dsmer1991]

if there was that severe of a shortage i don't think i could have filled up my car with gas for less than 15 dollars today.  not to say we won't run out just not tomorrow, or the possibilty that gas is so cheap right now because they know something we don't. Like gas will be useless by 2015 or something. technology is out there to make everything outdated overnight, the problem lies in who can meter it and how they can charge for it. 

-much like oregon taxing mileage instead of gas usage

if we make a car that runs on water they will find a way to bill us for rain water or mileage or whatever.

with great amounts of money comes great power and the government knows this and will exploit it anyway they can