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time/gravity modified by casimir effect opposite of event horizon

Started by froarty, February 13, 2009, 10:58:47 AM

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Steven Dufresne

Quote from: froarty on February 13, 2009, 08:23:39 PM
No, there is no change. I had a feeling when I used an analogy of fresh to salt water and a "softening" of the boundary or "density" of space for the orbit to submerge into I was asking for trouble. I suspect that virtual particles are incompressible yet the stream they form can accelerate in an event horizon or be restricted in a narrow gap between conductive surfaces. The energy/orbital is simply distributed further into the temporal axis meaning that the quadric volume of the exclusion field is making up for the lost space in the cubic volume. We normally only consider cubic volume in normal space because our time frame is so narrow that the temporal vector is negligible just like a blackboard figure would only consider square area unaware of a 3rd dimension. My point is that as these conductive plates get closer and closer the quadric volume expands suggesting that if these "skiny" molecules remain stable they could be recycled through secondary stages to form more complex "skiny" macro molecules. probably would tear themselves apart but even so nature restores everyone to monatomic energy levels and you just made a better thermal rectifier(which is all the dihydrino amounts to).

How about a trig analogy and gravity ... if we try to accelerate away from the planent in normal space we PAY 9.8 m/s^2 but if we could navigate at 45 degrees between normal and the time axis gravity would be half and from the perspective of normal space we would appear to be very fast even though we are traveling slower through the time axis than normal space - likewise the slower moving time stream in the exclusion field appears faster to our differential perception.[/b]

Interesting. So instead of an energy increase as I'd expected, there's a temporal change. And it wasn't your "analogy of fresh to salt water and a "softening" of the boundary or "density" of space for the orbit to submerge into" that caused trouble. I don't know the details of the standard model as wll as you do but instead as I was reading I was applying the wave structure of matter (WSM) model (and I'm not sure I was applying that correctly sinc eI don't think anyone's tried deriving the Casimir effect from it.) In WSM, the long waves also would not be excluded, I think. That's why I was able to follow most of what you'd written using that model.
-Steve
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froarty

Quote from: DrWhat on February 14, 2009, 06:17:08 AM
Froarty,

you seem to be a clever person.

May I suggest you use your analytical mind to look at solving the Bessler Wheel.

www.besslerwheel.com
If anyone could do it I believe you may stand a chance. At least with the Bessler Wheel you can achieve a tangible outcome and still focus on gravity as an area of interest.

http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page

http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=Portal:Clues

http://www.besslerwheel.com/wiki/index.php?title=MT_1-20

etc
DrWhat , this is EXTREMELY speculative but I have considered the legends that a pyramid block could be scooted sideways 2 bowlengths by agitating it with a special horn like device then yanking out the special papyrus blocks that it had to be elevated on before each iteration. instead of an open exclusion field If we consider the case for a "closed"  cavity formed of trapped air in a porous conductive powder like calcium in limestone blocks then a portion of the cavity will meet casimir geometry and if the trapped gas could be agitated to disassociate we have a similar case to the hydrino being produced only not being combustible hydrogen it would have better opportunity for the newly formed or reformed molecule to exit the cavity stable. a stable molecule that is skiny in our space but fat on the temporal axis would support that legend and your wheel. It is basically a space drive kit -just add coiled tubing and pump these molecules through the coil to claw at space but that is TAKING energy and you asked about CAPTURING energy. Now here is where it gets good :_) I think I already made my case for the time stream and gravity being the same just different length vacuum flux are perceived temporally or gravitationally active so the future is always "above" us and the past "below" us. Our egyptian friends didn't add any significant energy by agitating the block but they may have clued us in on just how thin a single time frame is and how slow the river of time is actually flowing through normal space.  these "fat" molecules will normally orient down to present a profile of least resistance to the time stream but when agitated a certain fraction of them will be driven sideways into the stream and interleaving themselves between the virtual particles. I am interpreting their need to elevate the block before initiation because this interleaving of the fat molecule in the time stream will resist vertical movement in either direction up or down but not resist horizontal - like a thin pin cushion between two curtains that is suddenly turned sideways it pierces the curtains on either side and can not move up or down but is allowed to swing sideways with the curtain. If true they literally created a "sky hook" and this method might be leveraged into your swinging counter weights but I'll leave you to work that one out. I didn't look into it deeply but you might look for materials he used that would contain natural exclusion fields - either cavities like skeletal catalysts and conductive powders or external fields between crystal facets like sand. You have to look for how he is translating the reactionary forces onto the temporal axis. He has to be creating boundary conditions between the orbitals in his weights or balances and a method to turn them on and off ... hope I gave you a head start but like I said this REAL speculative
Fran