Salt Water Fuel From Radio Waves

[mscoffman]

The most detailed  paper released is here: http://www.rustumroy.com/    ..  This is a replication, but it includes nothing of value, imo.  No information about their  RF beam generator or polarization method, etc.

Thank you for that link..Very interesting stuff.

RF is rather simple. They give the frequency and the
wattage. As for the antenna design check the Kansius
Patent, it is important and should be in his patent.
There is; no final RF efficiency figures. The flame's
self-ignition could be designed into either the
antenna or the final RF amplifier or could be
spontaneous with high enough RF wattage.

The NaCl ions are known to "colorize" a flame and
some of the flames heat at it's base would end up
heating the liquid electrolyte so it is somewhat of
a complex system that could/should be broken apart
for further study.

You will notice I estimated 2KiloWatts RF input
and the RF was actually only 300Watts...potential
echoes of an overunity energy process.

:S:MarkCoffman

[Farrah Day]

I really would not dwell on OU, not only is it likely a waste of time, but at this stage it is not where the interest in this phenomenom lies.

As stated the frequency is an allocated frequency, and the power is likely misleading as the test tube itself only utilises a small area between the RF transmitter and receiver, so only sees a fraction of the power transmitted.  It would be logical to assume that an RF transmitter specifically designed to focus on the test tube alone could be made to be far more efficient. I'm not talking about OU, just much higher efficiency.

The metal salt ions clearly play a part in this process, but you cannot simply say that something happens.  Things only happen because of chemical or electrochemical reactions - and those reactions have to make sense and above all, balance out.

If the RF creates an electric field that causes the Na+ and Cl- ions to move, then this movement can be compared to the ion current drawn through a standard electrolyser.  The ion current itself serves to create collisions and interactions with the water molecule causing it to ionise into H+ and OH-, but unless these ions of water exchange charges quickly, they will recombine back into H2O. Hence no gas is evolved.

This is the same as applying an alternating voltage across a cell where the electrodes are insulated. The alternating voltage will be causing the water to ionise, but this ions are not utilised as they have no where to exchange charges, hence no gas is evolved.

To become atoms and evolve as gas, the ions must pick up and drop charges.

There is no obvious way that this can happen in the Kanzius burning saltwater phenomenom, so maybe something entirely different and to-date unknown is happening.

The first thing that has to be confirmed is what exactly is/are the gases being evolved? Is it oxygen and hydrogen? Just hydrogen? Is toxic chlorine being evolved?  The answer to this question alone would be very helpful.

One thing is for sure, we will have a lot of Na+, Cl-, H+ and OH- ions all intermingling, being pulsed into motion by the applied RF signal. And somewhere, somehow, two or more of these ions are being excited enough to exchange charges when they would not normally do so. Fascinating stuff!

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