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Started by Rapadura, February 17, 2010, 11:39:53 PM

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nightlife

 Runners always seek the strongest field. In the case of the runner going up and dropping off, we find that gravity is the stronger field. Now once the runner leaves the magnetic field and moves along gravity's field, it can be picked up by another magnetic field and done again. The problem is making the turns which I have already demonstrated with a youtube video, can be done.
Now that we can, so call, close the loop, we have another problem. That problem is that eddy's take affect and the runner becomes magnetized which henders it's ability to continue to run it's coarse. Becuase the runner becomes more attracted to the array's which will make it more difficult for the runner to leave the arrays field.
Now if the arrays used had one that used a north and the other that used a south, it would help to keep the runner from becoming magnitized but we may find that even after just one pass thru the first array, it may become magnitized enough that it would repell away from entering the next array.

Just some food for thought.  ;)

mscoffman

Quote from: nightlife on February 19, 2010, 09:18:03 AM

Now that we can, so call, close the loop, we have another problem. That problem is that eddy's take affect and the runner becomes magnetized which henders it's ability to continue to run it's coarse. Becuase the runner becomes more attracted to the array's which will make it more difficult for the runner to leave the arrays field.

Just some food for thought.  ;)

I would say, "changes to the runner's magnetic field could destroy
it's interaction with the rest of the machine and maybe reduce
the net acceleration from the magnetic array." If it were
made of standard steel.

...This is true, and while it is tougher to make, the runner - if
made of magnets itself, would reject external changes to it's
magnetic field. It would be relatively easy to make parts
of the runner of a nonmagnetic material but have magnets
be the basis of it's interaction with the array.

The array's indirect magnetic field, while subject to shielding,
would more easily affect the path of a magnetized runner.

:S:MarkSCoffman

Rapadura

"the runner becomes magnetized"

I had never thought of that!

It is frustrating to see how all the methods to demonstrate that the opposite  pair "gravitational field - magnetic field" can generate perpetual motion are muddled by side effects such as the runner being magnetizing after a little time.

nightlife

Quote from: Rapadura on February 19, 2010, 10:06:15 PM
"the runner becomes magnetized"

I had never thought of that!

It is frustrating to see how all the methods to demonstrate that the opposite  pair "gravitational field - magnetic field" can generate perpetual motion are muddled by side effects such as the runner being magnetizing after a little time.

Although your concept may be foiled, don't give up on the smot. You just need to think of a design that can work with magnetic runners or that will become stronger as the runners become magnetized. It can be done. The smot concept is a beautiful thing. It supplies the uneven magnetic field that is needed. I am giving up more then I should. ;)