Battery Charger for RVs and Beyond?

[mscoffman]

Dave,

Here is a couple of things I wanted to let you consider. Look these things up on google.

1) BASIC STAMP PIC - microcontroller is the simplest begining computer controller you can
                                            find. People on energetic.com forum have used this successfully
                                            as a energy microcontoller.   

It is really a mistake to get into free energy without some sort of computer assistance.
For example one of the things done is swapping of the charge battery and discharge battery
after a certain amount of time. Programming this one is very simple. Not only do you
not have to concern yourself with the speed a which the computer runs one often must
slow this down so that it doesn't overun electromechanicals.

2)     'littlebits.com"

This company builds plug and play components perfect for cicuitry of these type of
projects. They worked with Nasa to bring these components to kids. But that doesn't matter.
One thing is very useful is their fiberoptic communications links can keep one from
intertwining wiring from a computer with the electrically noisey power wiring for the
batteries.

3)   Minn Kota Inc.   - MultiBank Battery Chargers (their are other manf. equivalent to some)

Get to know their full line of products. These chargers allow you to charge battery banks
of 12VDC Battery banks without disconnecting them from each other . From Utility, 12VDC or
24VDC sources for example. The charger circuits are ground isolated. 

4) Reed Relays and Latching Relays and Contactors

There are several important latching relays. Toshiba makes a 5Vdc 1 amp latching relay.
There is a 20A latching relay. Then TE Tyco has inexpensive Latching Contactors
which are heavy duty latching relay for handling muti-hundred amp links.
They form milliohm switches so you don't have to worry about losses or
resistance cause voltage offsets.

Latching Relays are like computer controlled switches. They have two coils and the only
need a short 20-50ms milisecond pulse then the latch either "on" or "off' with no power
required at all when the are not switching. This "no current used" mode is really important
for overunity energy application. Computer controllers can be slowed down to very low
frequency only to pop back up when needed, but have to have their own viable power supplies.

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Really, Multibank Chargers and inexpensive latching relays do enormous things in terms of
simplicity reduction in system components and allow conservative designs without excessive
component counts or costs.

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In general the de-sulfitation pulse processing comes easy with Bedini stuff. Unfortunately
battery charging comes tougher. Computerization and battery swapping switching will speed
your ability to learn what you have to charge batteries. I feel whimshurst static electricity
is the answer to Bedini battery charging but Bedini designs come to this energy long & slow
opportunistically rather then via engineering design. Use a dummy load (headlamps) to
break through the surface charge on batteries from pulse charging. (and eat into charging
profits) to see their real voltage. This is why you want to totally disconnect Bedini pulse
equipment from batteries before connecting commercial inverters or chargers -
automatically via controller and contactor  switches. Remember what the guy said: "Do not
charge and discharge batteries at the same time". and If the "Battery is full ; then stop
charging it."  Keep your reactor batteries smaller in Amperehours until you learn what
you are doing. Keep your power wiring thick (low gauge #), do good grounding return current
wiring treatment keep your good computer ground independent of power ground except at one
point.

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My tendency is to use an Inhotep "Emergency Light" circuit (w solid state switch) to fetch power then use a Tesla Switch circuit
(or Bedini motor) as a kind of a "null charger" to cycle through battery current and merge the fetched power in on top of that.


:S:MarkSCoffman

[TinselKoala]

@DaveRen: Thanks for viewing the  MHOP videos. The point of the MHOP, which was originally conceived by MileHigh, is to demonstrate that an intelligently conceived and designed and cooperatively developed _truly open source_ project could duplicate the electrical and mechanical performance of a Bedini "north pole motor" or SGM or whatever the current nomenclature is for a unipolar pulse motor of the self-triggered, attractive or repulsive, regenerative kind. The project also functioned as an example of what an Open Source project should actually look like. Every bit of the work, mistakes and mods and results and all, is fully documented in the forum thread and the YT videos, and I myself learned an enormous amount from participating. Perhaps even MileHigh learned a thing or two!
I didn't go as far as demonstrating battery "charging" or ruining with the MHOP but I assure you that the MHOP, when used as a battery "charger" in the same manner that Bedini uses spikes from his motors and chargers, will do the exact same things that his schemes do. And they will do them with  more control and greater "efficiency" if efficiently ruining batteries is your bag. This should be clear from the behaviour of the neons attached to the MHOP and the rapid charging of an external capacitor to voltages 20x the supply voltage or more.

Except, apparently, the MHOP won't bring me any money or fame the way Bedini's have done him.

I encourage experimentation. But there is no need to re-invent the wheel. By which I mean, find out all you can about Bedini's systems, from the pro-Bedini and the anti-Bedini sides. There are plenty of highly vocal people on both sides.  Then, make up your own mind as to the validity of Bedini's claims, and what kinds of experiments you need to do to confirm or debunk those claims yourself.

(And personally, I find the Arduino system to be easier to use and more versatile for beginners than the STAMP system, but at a more fundamental level they are the same: easy programming and interface platforms for microprocessors. If you don't already have some of these things around your lab, get some! They are invaluable for all kinds of control and measurement issues.)

[mscoffman]

http://laserhacker.com/forum/index.php?topic=89.0

Seems that one just cannot win.


:S:MarkSCoffman