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A possible violation of the Law of Conservation of Energy

Started by Zetetic, April 14, 2015, 04:59:57 PM

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ayeaye

Quote from: verpies on May 11, 2015, 02:10:42 AM
Regardless whether these lines are real or imaginary their amount is not constant in a permanent magnet and depends on the reluctance of its external magnetic circuit.
Yes right. So i assumed that the reluctance doesn't change significantly. When another magnet comes near the magnet, then this certainly decreases reluctance. But this effect should be proportional to how many field lines cross the external magnet, so this likely still does not change in essence that which was said. It is difficult to draw that increase of magnetic field, especially if it's small, has to be a very detail drawing. I would like to have some software that models magnetic fields, but again i have not found any of such open source.

Thinking about this canceling the magnetic field, which Zetetic talked about. So when a piece of iron comes near the magnet, then this increases the magnetic field? Assume so, but then the energy of the magnetic field is negative? If true, when the magnetic field is canceled when the piece of iron is nearer the magnet, then this takes less energy, because the energy of the magnetic field shall be released. So there is still no way how the potential energy will be converted. Generally that is, when not considering the amounts of energy. The energy of the magnetic field is very small, yet i'm not sure how great it is compared to the kinetic energy. Just what i can think with my simple mind.

Thank you Zetetic, i think you are great. We are here, with not too much knowledge, but the ability to think. But then when you find out something new, you always deal with novel things. So that's inevitably more thinking based, than knowledge based. I like these who think about theory, and not just put together some things in the hope that they may start to work.

ayeaye

I mean, when the moving magnet is small, then it can be considered that it doesn't change the magnetic field of the other magnets significantly, and all my drawings may remain true. When the magnet is stronger, it affects the magnetic field of the other magnets somewhat, but asymmetry should still remain.

Asymmetry, inducing and canceling the field, especially the magnetic field and the electrostatic field, these are the irregularities that may provide overunity. And these fields are everywhere, in magnets, coils, elasticity of objects, between molecules in the liquid.

Of the overunity experiments, what is known to work is the Tesla's radiant energy receiver. This qualifies as overunity, in that the energy comes from an unknown source. But it doesn't show the cause of overunity. It is also not clear whether this device really receives anything, or are these narrow pulses generated in that same sheet metal. So the experiments with magnets using asymmetry of their fields, are likely the simplest experiments that also show the reason of overunity.