A fresh look at the Clem motor

[ramset]

Sir,
I have often heard ,
"No such thing as a bad experiment "
Typically it takes an experiment to prove a theory..


IMO it should be possible to mimic this effect you propose...in a test chamber,
Or apparatus which can meet all criteria.
Granted we don't need to see 350 hp ( Clems claim ?)
A few "ponies or hamster power" in a test rig which can show a measurable /scalable gain?
Can you model such an experiment.. or give specifics for this theory to manifest?
Temp , flow rate ,pressure ( or vacuum?) etc etc ?


Sincerely
Chet K
Ps
  we are all here to bring change...
The more who can experiment ( simple testing of theory)
The better our chances to bring change..this is after all
How Open source works!
Pps
Your image is too blurry to read even when downloaded
?
Maybe post link ( sorry if you have  already posted somewhere?)

[aussiebattler]

I hope answers are here

ab

[aussiebattler]

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[citfta]

Continuing from my last post about using a long tapered gently curving pipe.  What also seems to be overlooked by a lot of experimenters concerning the Clem engine is the nozzle and reaction force from that nozzle.  As most of us know we use a small nozzle to increase the velocity of the fluid (gas or air).  And of course the higher the velocity of the fluid being expelled the greater reaction force.  But that is only one aspect of the reaction force.  The density of the material being expelled also affects the amount of reaction force.  The more dense the material the higher the reaction force.


But probably just as important as the velocity of the fluid is the amount of fluid being expelled.  I think this is the primary area being ignored by most experimenters.  We need a small nozzle to increase the velocity of the fluid but the more fluid we expel the more reaction force we get.  For some reason most of the experiments I see are only using 4 small nozzles.  They are getting the velocity but not the volume.  The answer of course is to use more nozzles.  I will be conducting some tests soon I hope, but my experience tells me that you probably need at least 8 nozzles in order to get the amount of thrust you need to make the Clem engine work.


Respectfully,
Carroll

[ramset]

I hope answers are here

ab

AB
Yes the answer is there ( somewhat... snippet from your PDF below)


I do believe a static test bed can manifest the pressure ( I know that's a tuff question to ask
"What pressure"?)
Also : 300 degrees? No issues with manifesting any given temperature ...within reason.
And the nozzle ? ( orifice or Venturi spec ?
Also not too difficult to get a ballpark feel for developed thrust ?


IMO
Easier to do a mockup than a total build .( for Carroll's build  recommendation also)


Thanks for sharing PDF
For clarity
Yes hot oil is quite dangerous to work with
However
Most things we play with here are equally as dicey...
On that note,


Tommey's path towards investigation
Phase change water/atmosphere injected into hot oil is not gonna be a walk in the park either .
Below generic static test video of Water phase change in hot oil ....explosion video again !

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wkAbV-yXy0M
Slow motion starts approx .52sec- 1 minute into vid ..Mucho gusto ..."instant" 1600 fold expansions ...

Respectfully
Chet K