SMOT TEST- can someone do this?

[tinu]

Paul, how do you propose to get the ball back up to its original starting point? That's kind of a big gap in your theory.
Tim

There's no "up". It would be a flat, horizontal, circle. The SMOT
principle drives the ball, and the gain, the benefit, is the voltage
coming out of the coil that I proposed. I am going to have a go at
this over the weekend.

*** Don't forget I am not talking about the video - rather the oval
track drawing on page 5.

You may skip the coils as well at this stage.
Just build the main setup and check that the ball stops pretty fast...
The device DOES NOT self sustain!

Sorry for the bad news,
Tinu

[The Eskimo Quinn]

@paul
The SMOT principle is well accepted.

Not by all of us, certainly not that theory anyway.

Theory that cannot be built, like travel at light speed squared, is acceptable as not able to be proven, however when you are talking a few hundred dollars tops in materials, then the person who first proposed the theory should have been able to build his own machine, if not it is without question a DUD !!

Do you seriously believe that someone could perfect a theory and then not spend 200 dollars to save the world, if for nothing more than to be the most famous person to have ever lived, I'll say that again "Ever Lived" not modern times or last hundred years???

For a start, all this winding of coils around tracks and bar magnets is rubbish, if the ball is magnetized you need to have 2 balls both of opposing polarity to induce a current in coils.

For those of you who want the worlds coolest home toy, I am attaching the specs for the tap generator, made from a bottle, magnets and a coil array you can make at home, any school child can build it, and you can get power every time you turn on your tap, free hydro.

The reason I am attaching this, is that it is a very good example of magnetic coil induction for power, and you will note the opposing pole magnetic array, which will help the thread users understand basic induction.

I stand by the principle of gravity Smot using electromagnets as the only likely winner, as the gravity is already free energy.

I prefer the drop and paddle turbine myself for simplicity, by if you insist on using coils, then that?s easy, use a small wheeled car array on your track, then you "can" have alternating pole magnetic array facing your coils simply have alternating poles facing the side of the car with a slight gap between them try it straight track first and then to remove cornering friction as would come from normal wheels, change to ball bearing wheels for the car/carriage. Simple, not complicated.

For those who believe the magnetic ball theory, simple, tape one pole of the bar magnet straight to one side of the bloody ball and wave it in front of your coil? That?s right, nothing!! For induction to coil from magnetic movement you need alternation. No wonder the government hasn?t shut down the site (put your web provider down.). They?ve got nothing to worry about here. Magnetic balls, puhleease.


nb, for some reason the template to help you do the magnet layout is not in this pdf you can get it from the site on the doc.

[nwman]

Paul,
     So if I'm correct in assuming the below image is what you are thinking will work? I'm also assuming the balls are just steel ball bearings? I don't think when B3 reaching B1 it will push B1 free from its position. I haven't seen any video of such a actions taking place. Do you have one? It will probably just get stuck with B1 and the process will come to a stop.

Tim

[Paul-R]

Paul,
     So if I'm correct in assuming the below image is what you are thinking will work? I'm also assuming the balls are just steel ball bearings? I don't think when B3 reaching B1 it will push B1 free from its position. I haven't seen any video of such a actions taking place. Do you have one? It will probably just get stuck with B1 and the process will come to a stop.
Tim

The traditional method has a bar magnet on BOTH sides of
the track, although only one two magnet system is necessary.

This will accelerate a steel ball through. It is closely related to the
Calloway V gate, the Clarke Gate and various tri-gate designs.
In the straighforward SMOT ramp design, the ball will gain a
small amount of height, maybe 1", with ease. I suggest using
this gained energy in kinetic from, i.e. not designing for height
gain, but speed gain, and then slow it down by having the ball,
magnetised temporarily by its proximity to the bar magnet(s),
inducing a current in a coil surrounding the track.

There may be an issue concerning the fact that the TWO bar
magnets either side present different poles to the ball.
Paul-R

Clarke Gate:
http://www.fdp.nu/shared/manager.asp?d=files%5CGraham%20Clarke%5CCorner%20Gate%5CDevices%20with%20the%20corner%20gate%5C

[nwman]

Paul,
    I think your over looking a very large factor if the design still. Let me comment;

The traditional method has a bar magnet on BOTH sides of
the track, although only one two magnet system is necessary.
This will accelerate a steel ball through. It is closely related to the
Calloway V gate, the Clarke Gate and various tri-gate designs

I agree the it will accelerate through but does the ball not get stuck at the end?

In the straighforward SMOT ramp design, the ball will gain a
small amount of height, maybe 1", with ease. I suggest using
this gained energy in kinetic from, i.e. not designing for height
gain, but speed gain,

I under stand this to however what are you thinking will happen? So if you enter the first ball into the system it will be pulling to one end; I agree. Then you  inter the second ball into the system and it will as well be pulled to the other end; again I agree. Now this is where I think we have differing ideas. What do you think will happen when the second ball approaches the first ball that's already stuck at the end?

A: Do you think the second ball with knock the first ball free of the magnetic field thus allowing it to travail onto the next smot.
B: The second ball will hit the first ball but it to will be stuck and not launch the first ball free thus both come to a stop. - This is what I think will happen.
C: Some other action.

If your answer is A then what proof do you have that this will happen? Videos? I have yet to see any video of this happening.

and then slow it down by having the ball,
magnetised temporarily by its proximity to the bar magnet(s),
inducing a current in a coil surrounding the track.

I really wouldn't worry about pulling power off of it yet. Your first goal should be just to make it continuously run. 

There may be an issue concerning the fact that the TWO bar
magnets either side present different poles to the ball.

I think this is a non issue.


Tim