Burning hho safely for heating / water heating?

[oldhippie]

HHO seems to react to material it comes in contact with on a sub atomic level.

Quote from BROWN?S GAS FACTS:

"Brown?s Gas flame temperature changes when it is applied to various materials. The Brown?s Gas flame is about 275 degrees F(135 degrees C) in open air. Without any torch adjustment, applying the flame to aluminum causes the aluminum to heat to 1295 de grees F(702 degrees C). Applied to brick, the temperature reaches 3,100 degrees F. (1704 degrees C) [James, I have seen aluminum welded to aluminum and brick melted with the torch, yet I passed my hand through the flame without any burns! I have the weld ed aluminum sample to show/give you but have forgotten about it.)p.45
Brown?s Gas can cut materials that ordinary torches cannot touch, like iron oxide. Because the Brown?s Gas flame instantly causes the material to raise ITS OWN temperature until it is sufficient to melt or burn itself."

The whole paper here: http://amasci.com/weird/bgf1.html

My own observations include some of the above but ceramics it seems react differently, they just glow cherry red. In the case for a hot water circulating - baseboard heating system, I wondered if an array of HHO jets under a ceramic slab would work as a heat source for a tube heat exchanger.  This way the firing chamber could be separate from the heat exchanger but part of a HHO fired boiler. In the case for a hot air system take away the tube heat exchanger and replace it with a fan.

For hot water on demand, a propane direct vent HWH might be retrofitted to except HHO.  An array of low-voltage 7 to 12 amp, pulse DC current, plain cold tap water as a makeup HHO generation system.   Safe reliable HHO production would need to match the HWH.

Funny property of ceramics  - if you remember the space shuttle is encased with ceramic tiles.  You can place a mapp gass tourch on them till cherry read and hold it in your hand.  Makes me think that heating any ceramics with HHO to cherry red will not produce much if any usable heat transfer.  Has anyone other there fooled around with this concept?

[Doug1]

Oldhippi

  The tiles on the space shuttle are not ordinary ceramics. Perhaps a  blend of ceramics and clay even some stone minerals like soap stone formed into tubes to slide over a copper tube would safely conduct the HHO flame heat into the copper heat exchanger.
  One thing that keeps burning my curiosity is why Stan used tubes instead of plates. Each time I look at his rig in a video my intuition tells me he used quartz or some crystal material some how in his spacers between the tubes or has some portion of the interior coated so the surface inside ocilates at high rate giving up all those tiny bubbles so quickly and abundantly instead of larger bubbles.
  The only reason i can think of for tubes is to hide whats in or between them which may make them work the way his do.
  If you watch a video of a Joe cell or plate type cell the bubbles are larger and there is not as much fog. Think about it, you could give up 90% of a design and it be enough to function in replication just not as good. That would leave him with 10% of the design being his own secrete until the check clears. I have never met anyone who worked toward being obsolete at their own expense.

[oldhippie]

Yep, I know the space shuttle uses a silica fiber compound along with other cute stuff.  Just musing aloud...

I looked at Stans stuff and Joe cell stuff for some time, no I don?t think its hocus-pocus.  I believe it?s a DC low-voltage, current pulse setup.  The HQ stainless steel tubes were electrolyze until a light coat plated the tubes.  I believe he generated Browns gas and then another step unseen into Hydrogen.  The electrical control remains a mystery.  They stumbled on something.  Frequency, pulse, voltage and current?  I bet its right in front of our faces!  Could be Tesla experiments, I don?t know but I am digging.  In my humble option, no one on the planet knew DC or could manipulate electrictricity like Tesla.  If Stan gave his secrets to the world he?d be alive now; can?t kill everyone!  Poor greedy bastard, trying to sell water for fuel!

I was working on a browns gas (HHO)  boiler, steam driven electrical generator.  I was looking to do it with off the shelf parts.  A stationary plant for my home.  The cost stopped me - a little over 19K. Just as much as a whole house solar system.  As I see it, it?s all figured out.  The Nash Equilibrium has screwed us all!