john aarons latest wire-cell test

[Farrah Day]

Got to say this water4gas thing advertised on the left must only cost peanuts to make - there's really nothing to it. Actually, I'm not sure they even make it or just send you the bits... brilliant!

I can see why it would only draw 1 - 3 amps as there is very little surface area from the thin wire in contact with the electrolyte.  I think they're basically charging $200 dollars for a pickle jar and a metre or so of ss wire... oh, and a couple of nuts and bolts and some tubing... bargain!

The power of marketing eh!

I really don't know how they get away with some of what is said. The first testimonial is conveniently from someone who claims to have improved his fuel economy by 82% - so, if he buys another one his dependence on hydrocarbon fuel will be over, and Halleluyah our fuel worries are a thing of the past! Yeh, right.  If that unit makes such a difference to fuel economy, imagine what a decent unit that actually produced a reasonable amount of gas would do for your fuel economy!!

They claim it produces a lot more gas than a plate electrolyser, but for some reason they don't seem to feel the need for any kind of flame arrestor or bubbler.  Someone is making a fortune from this so it would be nice to hear from someone 'real' exactly what the unit had done for their fuel economy.

I'm gonna be knocking up a small hydrobooster and giving it a full road test soon on my WFC thread, so I'll have some idea of just how beneficial one of these units can be.

[bubblemonkey2]

hi everyone im new here,

I live in LA and am planning on meeting the guy who is on the water4gas pages since he is local.. Ill keep you posted.  I want to see one working in person myself! and talk to the user.. too...  As for the water4gas AD on this site, its a common misconception you are purchasing a KIT, but in reality this is NOT so... they dont sell the KIT assembled, they charge 99$ for the INFORMATION how to build one and where to get parts..Though they do have people they say they can connect you with to build one for you..  There are plenty of kits online for sale on ebay as well.  This is more a DIY instruction Ebook.

I have been researching hydro boosters for about a month now, but havent built or installed one yet, so I am just speaking from what I have researched online at this point (though thats about to change)

This hydro boost technology is sound from what i can see, and seems very promising and from what i have been reading, this actually works.. Even by unbiased reviewers who were skeptical at first, come away convinced that the water4fuel system works as advertised.  Now that gas prices are going to go even higher, we all need to have this technology working and in our cars,  for a variety of reasons you all know too well.

I really enjoyed viewing Roy Mcallister's fundamentals of engines on utube..very good information about running hydrogen in engines. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFifFR-4C28&feature=related

I think i might be slightly responsible for john testing this wire cell similar to the w4gas version, as I sent him a link to the cell asking his opinion the day before the "fin" appeared   I  intended to ask him but forgot to mention to him to build one to test for us, so we could all see how it performed.  Before I could send the e mail the next day I noticed he already had!

In his defense he did build one out of wire a few times but never with this exact fin/x design, he wrapped it around a tube on his first few tests....it produced OK.   I think the wire is the way to go. My question is how far apart from the POSITIVE does the wire need to be?  And are plates and wires (like Johns) the way to go, or just wires?

I agree this cell John made (fin) puts out more than other designs he built using plates and at a lower amperage.  One thing different if you notice he used PLATES on either side of the cell vs just the wires that you see in the w4gas version.  Im wondering how this might effect the wire's/cells performance?  I wonder which is better?  I havent seen both in operation, maybe something John could test for us.

Also I cant really understand how that wire wrapped around the acrylic in the water4gas cell is actually built... Im assuming they are ALTERNATING the postive and negative wires around the X acrylic frame keeping them apart by placing the wires in grooves?  They dont have any plates that I can see or other stainless steel and by the drawings it looks like its just two sets of wires?  Interesting if so, someone can fill me in here...if you have built one and purchased the instructions feel free to chime in here.

Im curious about how the distance between the pos and neg of the cell might effect performance good or bad.  A lot of the tubing cells only have minimal space between the two.. but this cell John made with the fin was quite a bit away from each other and still produced very well?  Maybe distance doesnt matter and too close might actually hinder performance?  Only an accurate test of the output would answer this of course, something John says he is going to start doing.

I have a design of my own I plan on testing shortly, and  I will post a thread once its done on utube and in here.

We really need to get this information out and a booster installed on every car running on the planet.  Also the Geet Principle for heating/plamatizing fuels also seems VERY promising too.  I cant wait till that thing is availble in mass production.. Im really looking forward to my own install and savings.

You people ever hear of GEET?  You probably have.... anyways...This technology seems amazingly possible to me.. vaporizing/heating and plasmatizing the fuel recycling it for more burn... increasing milage...

I know Pantone was setup and is now in jail, (thats a whole nother thread)  but I found This product below based on his theories.  Ut us not out yet, They also offer a hydro system now complete with computer to control onboard systems of the car.

PICC converter on the GEEK principle

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?action=post;topic=4095.0;num_replies=5

when they finish the PICC converter along with HHO boost I think we could all get almost 100mpgh

Price for the above company's hydro kit is about 1k, I assume the PICC converter will be just about as much.. contacted company they have no infor on when its ready or price...

IMHO both need to come down under 500$ for both installed to be viable for most consumers, hopefully with mass production price for hydro and PICC can come down dramatically..  Just seems incredible to me that major auto mfg arent ALREADY making cars like this??